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	<title>Comments on: Child abuse rife in madrassas and mosques</title>
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		<title>By: Sword of Allah</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2007/11/28/child-abuse-rife-in-madrassas-and-mosques/comment-page-1/#comment-29501</link>
		<dc:creator>Sword of Allah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heres my description of an atheist and it fits very well with what they believe... yes believe... 
Atheists are monkeys who think a tornado sweeps through a scrapyard and as a result a boeing passenger plane is produced.

If you look around you there are signs for those who believe and are of understanding. Atheists lack understanding and reasoning. If you see a watch in the middle of a desert, what conclusion would you draw?
yes the reult of the watch being formed was due to the force of this hidden power of the universe. what BS.Atheists lack thinking capability.

Islam condemns homosexuality. If anyone is found guilty of such actions he would be put to death in an islamic shariah. 

Mr. Surk... where in the verse you quoted does it say have sex with little boys. Those boys are a creation of Allah which will serve those in heaven. They will have no tiredness or ill feeling. They are created to serve.

Islam is the way. Those who reject will burn in the hellfire. khalas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heres my description of an atheist and it fits very well with what they believe&#8230; yes believe&#8230;<br />
Atheists are monkeys who think a tornado sweeps through a scrapyard and as a result a boeing passenger plane is produced.</p>
<p>If you look around you there are signs for those who believe and are of understanding. Atheists lack understanding and reasoning. If you see a watch in the middle of a desert, what conclusion would you draw?<br />
yes the reult of the watch being formed was due to the force of this hidden power of the universe. what BS.Atheists lack thinking capability.</p>
<p>Islam condemns homosexuality. If anyone is found guilty of such actions he would be put to death in an islamic shariah. </p>
<p>Mr. Surk&#8230; where in the verse you quoted does it say have sex with little boys. Those boys are a creation of Allah which will serve those in heaven. They will have no tiredness or ill feeling. They are created to serve.</p>
<p>Islam is the way. Those who reject will burn in the hellfire. khalas</p>
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		<title>By: malayalee</title>
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		<dc:creator>malayalee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1st you read QUR&#039;AN and understand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1st you read QUR&#8217;AN and understand</p>
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		<title>By: proud to be a muslim!</title>
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		<dc:creator>proud to be a muslim!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with samira .. dont judge wat u dont know .. and dont judge religion on ppl&#039;s actions .. whoever does not get that ur really arrogant .. am sure u dont write ur essays etc without real facts (the WHOLE facts) .. read the quraan!! 
and by the way there is only one God and christian, jews and muslims pray to the same one... and whoever does not have a religion or belief one question ... who created u?
May God be upon u=)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with samira .. dont judge wat u dont know .. and dont judge religion on ppl&#8217;s actions .. whoever does not get that ur really arrogant .. am sure u dont write ur essays etc without real facts (the WHOLE facts) .. read the quraan!!<br />
and by the way there is only one God and christian, jews and muslims pray to the same one&#8230; and whoever does not have a religion or belief one question &#8230; who created u?<br />
May God be upon u=)</p>
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		<title>By: Havva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Havva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Allahs book it&#039;s revealed that a muslim will not do any fakhish(illigality) as a muslim so from the minute he does so he is out of the blessing. Very simple, nowhere to discuss.Atheists are mother fuckers. after coming from their moms abdomen they refuse their moms. they beleive that they are self dependants. But ask them to form anything themselves except the fake dirty windy words they cannot. They are the blind commers that Rasul had mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Allahs book it&#8217;s revealed that a muslim will not do any fakhish(illigality) as a muslim so from the minute he does so he is out of the blessing. Very simple, nowhere to discuss.Atheists are mother fuckers. after coming from their moms abdomen they refuse their moms. they beleive that they are self dependants. But ask them to form anything themselves except the fake dirty windy words they cannot. They are the blind commers that Rasul had mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Abdullah K.</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2007/11/28/child-abuse-rife-in-madrassas-and-mosques/comment-page-1/#comment-15663</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdullah K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been two years in a madrassa in a Muslim dominated part of India, I have experienced first hand some of the child abuses mentioned in this article. My teacher (Huzoor) in Hifz class used to repeatedly kick and cane us around (with full force, no less) for the slightest of errors reciting in a language that we didn&#039;t even no (and can&#039;t pronounce in the first attempt because of our accent differences). He was also a child molester, he and a fellow 15 year old favourite of his used to spend hours closeted in their bedroom. (Eventually he was caught and kicked out, but since the Madrassa and Muslim community didn&#039;t want to &#039;tarnish the face of Islam&#039; they didn&#039;t report him to the authorities to be legally tried). The last act of &#039;generousity&#039; on the part of Muslims was the first blow to my faith of Islam being a religious &#039;better&#039; than others. The irony is that my faith in Islam got shattered in one of the holiest places on learning about Islam - the Madrassa.
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A lot of Muslims know about these incidents, but living in an &#039;infidel&#039; society, they are scared of opening these can of worms, lest &#039;infidels&#039; see Islam for being any less perfect as they try to make it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been two years in a madrassa in a Muslim dominated part of India, I have experienced first hand some of the child abuses mentioned in this article. My teacher (Huzoor) in Hifz class used to repeatedly kick and cane us around (with full force, no less) for the slightest of errors reciting in a language that we didn&#8217;t even no (and can&#8217;t pronounce in the first attempt because of our accent differences). He was also a child molester, he and a fellow 15 year old favourite of his used to spend hours closeted in their bedroom. (Eventually he was caught and kicked out, but since the Madrassa and Muslim community didn&#8217;t want to &#8216;tarnish the face of Islam&#8217; they didn&#8217;t report him to the authorities to be legally tried). The last act of &#8216;generousity&#8217; on the part of Muslims was the first blow to my faith of Islam being a religious &#8216;better&#8217; than others. The irony is that my faith in Islam got shattered in one of the holiest places on learning about Islam &#8211; the Madrassa.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
A lot of Muslims know about these incidents, but living in an &#8216;infidel&#8217; society, they are scared of opening these can of worms, lest &#8216;infidels&#8217; see Islam for being any less perfect as they try to make it.</p>
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		<title>By: samira</title>
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		<dc:creator>samira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all to all the people on here that have so far left a comment, you should be quite ashamed of yourselves for what you say. The behaviour of people that so call themselves &#039;Muslims&#039; is different then to what the Holy Qur&#039;an and our religion ISLAM tells us. If an Imam does wrong, it doesn&#039;t mean that ISLAM says so, it simply is that he doesn&#039;t believe in it, and doesn&#039;t &#039;care&#039; that what he does is wrong. This behaviour of the Imam can not be attached to the religion, because one persons action, does not mean it is the religions fault, it is the persons itself who will be punished deeply if he did do it. It happends in every religion, in every country, and in every state. If this happened in a Jewish community, the religion would not get blamed for it, but the person who did it. If a priest had done this, it would&#039;t or I would say SHOULD&#039;T get blamed on christianity, simply because ONE PERSONS actions does not mean that it is the RELIGION who teaches them to do so, but it is the persons actions themselves.

This can not be compared and brought together to religion. I don&#039;t understand why you people are fighting, arguing and saying wrong things. It doesn&#039;t matter what you are (religion wise), these actions are wrong. And due to the fact that we know it is wrong, it is also wrong to blame the religion on it, because you should know, that the religion teaches different. 

Why do non-muslims always try to find a new way to make ISLAM (meaning: PEACE, look so bad. If it was known in its correct ways, you would understand its true meaning. So to all you people, seriously.. don&#039;t believe what you read on the internet, - ANYONE could have put it up, get out there.. READ THE QUR&#039;AN and its translation yourselves, and then decided whether its teachings are right or wrong. A person can say what it wants, but a book created by god, can only be the words of god.. And yeah, you would&#039;t know that for sure UNTILL YOU READ IT YOURSELVES.

Im not having a go at anyone, but what im saying is.. Think carefully before you talk. And that a religion should not be put or blamed for, for something like this. Why bring Islam (or in another case, another religion)in to it, it has nothing to do with this disgraceful behaviour. Their 2 different things, 

1) A persons actions and self believes
2) The meaning and teachings of the religion itself.

And finally, just remember, anyone could say their a Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Sikh or Christian by mouth and be identified through it by NAME, yet.. that does not mean, it is what the religion itself teaches you! 

So please, don&#039;t critisice any religions,just think the best of them, and if you have a doubt, read the books that tell you about them, the real books, such as the Bible and the Qur&#039;an, because they will make you realise the truth.

Thank You :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all to all the people on here that have so far left a comment, you should be quite ashamed of yourselves for what you say. The behaviour of people that so call themselves &#8216;Muslims&#8217; is different then to what the Holy Qur&#8217;an and our religion ISLAM tells us. If an Imam does wrong, it doesn&#8217;t mean that ISLAM says so, it simply is that he doesn&#8217;t believe in it, and doesn&#8217;t &#8216;care&#8217; that what he does is wrong. This behaviour of the Imam can not be attached to the religion, because one persons action, does not mean it is the religions fault, it is the persons itself who will be punished deeply if he did do it. It happends in every religion, in every country, and in every state. If this happened in a Jewish community, the religion would not get blamed for it, but the person who did it. If a priest had done this, it would&#8217;t or I would say SHOULD&#8217;T get blamed on christianity, simply because ONE PERSONS actions does not mean that it is the RELIGION who teaches them to do so, but it is the persons actions themselves.</p>
<p>This can not be compared and brought together to religion. I don&#8217;t understand why you people are fighting, arguing and saying wrong things. It doesn&#8217;t matter what you are (religion wise), these actions are wrong. And due to the fact that we know it is wrong, it is also wrong to blame the religion on it, because you should know, that the religion teaches different. </p>
<p>Why do non-muslims always try to find a new way to make ISLAM (meaning: PEACE, look so bad. If it was known in its correct ways, you would understand its true meaning. So to all you people, seriously.. don&#8217;t believe what you read on the internet, &#8211; ANYONE could have put it up, get out there.. READ THE QUR&#8217;AN and its translation yourselves, and then decided whether its teachings are right or wrong. A person can say what it wants, but a book created by god, can only be the words of god.. And yeah, you would&#8217;t know that for sure UNTILL YOU READ IT YOURSELVES.</p>
<p>Im not having a go at anyone, but what im saying is.. Think carefully before you talk. And that a religion should not be put or blamed for, for something like this. Why bring Islam (or in another case, another religion)in to it, it has nothing to do with this disgraceful behaviour. Their 2 different things, </p>
<p>1) A persons actions and self believes<br />
2) The meaning and teachings of the religion itself.</p>
<p>And finally, just remember, anyone could say their a Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Sikh or Christian by mouth and be identified through it by NAME, yet.. that does not mean, it is what the religion itself teaches you! </p>
<p>So please, don&#8217;t critisice any religions,just think the best of them, and if you have a doubt, read the books that tell you about them, the real books, such as the Bible and the Qur&#8217;an, because they will make you realise the truth.</p>
<p>Thank You <img src='http://freethinker.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: noha</title>
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		<dc:creator>noha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1-prophet mohamed never had male children. that so-called son of his was adopted. the boy was never mohamed&#039;s blood. later on, because of that incidence, god forbade adoption in islam and allowed child support only.
2-the above quotation from the quran said that people in heaven will be served by these young servants, while marry virgins. quran is very explicit and needs no speculations.
3-aisha, her age, her marriage, her very existence, are historian claims with no evidence.
4-morals, values, and standards are relative among human beings with no regard to their sex, religion, political views, nationality, or age.
5-the credibility of the sources of news, photos, and quotes are only measured by our own favourability and convictions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1-prophet mohamed never had male children. that so-called son of his was adopted. the boy was never mohamed&#8217;s blood. later on, because of that incidence, god forbade adoption in islam and allowed child support only.<br />
2-the above quotation from the quran said that people in heaven will be served by these young servants, while marry virgins. quran is very explicit and needs no speculations.<br />
3-aisha, her age, her marriage, her very existence, are historian claims with no evidence.<br />
4-morals, values, and standards are relative among human beings with no regard to their sex, religion, political views, nationality, or age.<br />
5-the credibility of the sources of news, photos, and quotes are only measured by our own favourability and convictions.</p>
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		<title>By: atheist =)</title>
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		<dc:creator>atheist =)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>two people i&#039;d like to appreciate on this thread are JonQAtheist and Surk! good going both of you! cheers! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>two people i&#8217;d like to appreciate on this thread are JonQAtheist and Surk! good going both of you! cheers! <img src='http://freethinker.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: atheist =)</title>
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		<dc:creator>atheist =)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh and i believe one of all the people curious to find flaws and criticize would be there to say i&#039;m posting with the name atheist and in my post i say i&#039;m muslim so for anyone whos wondering about that, i posted with the name atheist because to me its more like free thinker than religion-less... i call myself atheist because i dont believe in things most people around the world do. i believe in myself and i think thats what matters. and please don&#039;t remark on my beliefs if you can&#039;t prove to me that the things you believe in actually exist! anyways, have a nice day ya&#039;ll! and learn something from what i tried to say =) you&#039;ll have a better life if you learn to live and let live!

&lt;3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and i believe one of all the people curious to find flaws and criticize would be there to say i&#8217;m posting with the name atheist and in my post i say i&#8217;m muslim so for anyone whos wondering about that, i posted with the name atheist because to me its more like free thinker than religion-less&#8230; i call myself atheist because i dont believe in things most people around the world do. i believe in myself and i think thats what matters. and please don&#8217;t remark on my beliefs if you can&#8217;t prove to me that the things you believe in actually exist! anyways, have a nice day ya&#8217;ll! and learn something from what i tried to say =) you&#8217;ll have a better life if you learn to live and let live!</p>
<p>&lt;3</p>
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		<title>By: atheist =)</title>
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		<dc:creator>atheist =)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m sorry for going away from the topic but i HAVE to say this! =)
its funny i got to this page and somehow decided to reply... i&#039;m a muslim girl or maybe just as everyone calls it. in my opinion atheism is the most sensible option... anyways, not here to start a debate about whos religion is right and whos wrong, everyone has the right to believe... just here to say a few things. firstly, all you people who&#039;re posting here saying islam doesn&#039;t allow this stuff then you need to see all the other stuff these people are doing that &quot;islam&quot; doesn&#039;t allow. since i&#039;m muslim myself i know my religion and whats going on pretty well so before commenting weird opinions go do some research work... anyways, secondly, the holy prophet pbuh with all due respect was 52 when he married aisha who was 6. and thirdly, stop blaming others! :S why do sunni muslims go around saying &quot;oh the shias did it!&quot; and vice vera!? why don&#039;t you people stop to think that whatever happened was wrong and now you need to think of something to end it not blame it on someone else! and technically you can&#039;t put an end to this but you CAN post sensible comments WITHOUT accusing someone before even knowing it!
learn to respect beliefs of people! its a very common saying that people treat you just as you treat them, i&#039;m sure you&#039;ve all heard of it but who does!? go through this thread once, show me one person who even tried to tolerate anyone else... you people can&#039;t focus on anything if you can&#039;t discuss something with each other without criticising other members...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m sorry for going away from the topic but i HAVE to say this! =)<br />
its funny i got to this page and somehow decided to reply&#8230; i&#8217;m a muslim girl or maybe just as everyone calls it. in my opinion atheism is the most sensible option&#8230; anyways, not here to start a debate about whos religion is right and whos wrong, everyone has the right to believe&#8230; just here to say a few things. firstly, all you people who&#8217;re posting here saying islam doesn&#8217;t allow this stuff then you need to see all the other stuff these people are doing that &#8220;islam&#8221; doesn&#8217;t allow. since i&#8217;m muslim myself i know my religion and whats going on pretty well so before commenting weird opinions go do some research work&#8230; anyways, secondly, the holy prophet pbuh with all due respect was 52 when he married aisha who was 6. and thirdly, stop blaming others! :S why do sunni muslims go around saying &#8220;oh the shias did it!&#8221; and vice vera!? why don&#8217;t you people stop to think that whatever happened was wrong and now you need to think of something to end it not blame it on someone else! and technically you can&#8217;t put an end to this but you CAN post sensible comments WITHOUT accusing someone before even knowing it!<br />
learn to respect beliefs of people! its a very common saying that people treat you just as you treat them, i&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve all heard of it but who does!? go through this thread once, show me one person who even tried to tolerate anyone else&#8230; you people can&#8217;t focus on anything if you can&#8217;t discuss something with each other without criticising other members&#8230;</p>
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