Comments on: Old Bill in pursuit of Old Nick http://freethinker.co.uk/2007/12/29/old-bill-in-pursuit-of-old-nick/ The voice of atheism since 1881 Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:07:42 +0000 hourly 1 By: Martin http://freethinker.co.uk/2007/12/29/old-bill-in-pursuit-of-old-nick/comment-page-1/#comment-2118 Martin Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:54:47 +0000 http://www.freethinker.co.uk/?p=458#comment-2118 The thing is Alex, the Catholic church were huge supporters of Nazism because it attacked a religion Catholics disagreed with. The records which would prove otherwise will not be released by the Catholic Church, and I would imagine there are quite a few million people worldwide who would bw happy to gloss over this. If you knew the way Wikpedia works, you might appreciate that a massive wealthy organisation has more than a little say in what is printed. The thing is Alex, the Catholic church were huge supporters of Nazism because it attacked a religion Catholics disagreed with. The records which would prove otherwise will not be released by the Catholic Church, and I would imagine there are quite a few million people worldwide who would bw happy to gloss over this.
If you knew the way Wikpedia works, you might appreciate that a massive wealthy organisation has more than a little say in what is printed.

]]> By: Alex http://freethinker.co.uk/2007/12/29/old-bill-in-pursuit-of-old-nick/comment-page-1/#comment-2026 Alex Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:00:28 +0000 http://www.freethinker.co.uk/?p=458#comment-2026 "otherwise known as Joseph Ratzinger, formerly of the Hitler Youth" From Wikipedia.... "Following his fourteenth birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was enrolled in the Hitler Youth — membership being legally required after December 1939 — but was an unenthusiastic member and refused to attend meetings. His father was a bitter enemy of Nazism, believing it conflicted with the Catholic faith. In 1941, one of Ratzinger's cousins, a 14-year-old boy with Down syndrome, was killed by the Nazi regime in its campaign of eugenics." If the point you are trying to make is valid, then surely you can do it with argument alone? Why do you have to make implications such as these? I was surprised to see that he was "a member of the Hitler Youth", that's why I looked up the Wiki. The problem is that now I don't know what to trust in the rest of the article. Using these methods is just shooting yourself in the foot. Shame really. I'd like to trust the content of the article. It's like when you point out inaccuracies/contradictions in the Bible, then how can you trust the rest? “otherwise known as Joseph Ratzinger, formerly of the Hitler Youth”

From Wikipedia….

“Following his fourteenth birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was enrolled in the Hitler Youth — membership being legally required after December 1939 — but was an unenthusiastic member and refused to attend meetings. His father was a bitter enemy of Nazism, believing it conflicted with the Catholic faith. In 1941, one of Ratzinger’s cousins, a 14-year-old boy with Down syndrome, was killed by the Nazi regime in its campaign of eugenics.”

If the point you are trying to make is valid, then surely you can do it with argument alone? Why do you have to make implications such as these? I was surprised to see that he was “a member of the Hitler Youth”, that’s why I looked up the Wiki. The problem is that now I don’t know what to trust in the rest of the article.

Using these methods is just shooting yourself in the foot.

Shame really. I’d like to trust the content of the article. It’s like when you point out inaccuracies/contradictions in the Bible, then how can you trust the rest?

]]> By: michael martin http://freethinker.co.uk/2007/12/29/old-bill-in-pursuit-of-old-nick/comment-page-1/#comment-1948 michael martin Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:41:04 +0000 http://www.freethinker.co.uk/?p=458#comment-1948 Satan in rock music? No, apparently this is 1951... can't say i had noticed Satan in rock music?

No, apparently this is 1951… can’t say i had noticed

]]> By: Gary http://freethinker.co.uk/2007/12/29/old-bill-in-pursuit-of-old-nick/comment-page-1/#comment-1939 Gary Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:20:43 +0000 http://www.freethinker.co.uk/?p=458#comment-1939 Oh crap..... Does this mean I am one of Satan's biggest fans.....Been on the Internet since round about when it started and listening to rock music for 20 odd years. I'd better watch out. (sings) - Here come the men in black.... P.S. I think Satan is a load of rubbish too. Oh crap….. Does this mean I am one of Satan’s biggest fans…..Been on the Internet since round about when it started and listening to rock music for 20 odd years. I’d better watch out.

(sings) – Here come the men in black….

P.S. I think Satan is a load of rubbish too.

]]> By: carlo http://freethinker.co.uk/2007/12/29/old-bill-in-pursuit-of-old-nick/comment-page-1/#comment-1924 carlo Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:49:09 +0000 http://www.freethinker.co.uk/?p=458#comment-1924 about the photo & comment: there is people here in Italy that considers pontiff's grin and eyes as smiling, full of love and benevolence... are they blind? no, just catholics! about the photo & comment: there is people here in Italy that considers pontiff’s grin and eyes as smiling, full of love and benevolence… are they blind? no, just catholics!

]]> By: John Blackburn http://freethinker.co.uk/2007/12/29/old-bill-in-pursuit-of-old-nick/comment-page-1/#comment-1921 John Blackburn Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:00:21 +0000 http://www.freethinker.co.uk/?p=458#comment-1921 "The Vatican is particularly concerned that young people are being exposed to the influence of Satanic sects through rock music and the Internet" I am concerned that young people are being exposed to the influence of Catholic dogma through church, parental legacy, school and otherwise. Who needs Satan when you have these guys? “The Vatican is particularly concerned that young people are being exposed to the influence of Satanic sects through rock music and the Internet”
I am concerned that young people are being exposed to the influence of Catholic dogma through church, parental legacy, school and otherwise. Who needs Satan when you have these guys?

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