Comments on: So, who’s really ‘silly and stupid’, Dr Katme?

By: The Freethinker › Muslim doctor accused of homophobia walks out of a disciplinary hearing

Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:48:02 +0000

[...] parents not to have their children vaccinated, then angered gay rights groups when its spokesman, Dr Majid Katme, a “family values” activist, opposedÂ â€œunjustâ€ Sexual Orientation Regulations [...]

By: The Freethinker › One little prick could save the lives of thousands of women

Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:10:34 +0000

[...] also takes a swipe at the Islamic Medical Association, headed by another religious imbecile, Dr Abdul Majid Katme. The IMA said that it will make girls think it’s OK to â€œpick up… boys and sleep [...]

By: The Freethinker › Religion more important than hygiene, days dotty Muslim doctor

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:22:20 +0000

[...] is the same Katme, an NHS psychiatrist, who last year caused outrage when he urged British Muslims not to vaccinate their children against diseases such as measles, mumps, and rubella because they contain substances making them [...]

By: kelly

kelly — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:31:45 +0000

I feel that people often confuses spirituality with religion. A person can be spiritual, have peace with the universe and something in between but not necessary religious.

By: Buffy

Buffy — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:16:01 +0000

That old line about good health, lower rates of alcoholism/divorce and the like being associated with religiosity? That’s pure wishful thinking. While this is several years old it’s still very enlightening:

http://www.liberalslikechrist......raphs.html

By: Stuart H.

Stuart H. — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:18:51 +0000

Fair enough Peter. I posted my comment while on the move, remembering the organisation but not the name from an event some years ago and admit I confused you with another CMF member.
Having now looked again, the individual I recall would be Alan Johnson, who was, I believe, the CMF president until he died late last year.
My opinion of what I saw and heard remains, but criticising someone who can no longer put his side of the argument isn’t really on so I won’t pursue that line.

By: Dr Peter Saunders

Dr Peter Saunders — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:41:18 +0000

Btw if your readers would like to listen to the whole debate rather than the edited account above it can be heard at http://www.ccfon.org/mediacent.....038;avap=1

The reference for my claim that a recent US (note not UK) study showed 83% of patients desiring spiritual inquiry from physicians in certain situations is as follows:

McCord, G. et al., 2004. Discussing spirituality with patients: a rational and ethical approach. Annals of Family Medicine 2(4), 356-361

Let’s debate these things by all means but let’s do it in a properly informed way

By: Dr Peter Saunders

Dr Peter Saunders — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:13:46 +0000

Readers of your paper would be well advised to read the following paper from the Britsih Medical journal which makes mention of 1200 studies and 400 reviews on the link between religious faith and health.

I have by the way never been a lecturer in Sheffield nor visited the Isle of Man.

Spirituality and clinical care
Spiritual values and skills are increasingly recognised as necessary aspects of clinical care
Culliford, L
BMJ 2002;325:1434-1435 ( 21 December )
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/325/7378/1434

By: Tom Rees

Tom Rees — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:48:22 +0000

Talking bout the Times report on religious societies (higher levels of drug abuse, suicide etc). I’ve just put a post up on the BHA Science Blog showing that they are also more corrupt.

http://bhascience.blogspot.com.....onest.html

By: Stuart H.

Stuart H. — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:28:18 +0000

If this is the same Saunders of the CMF who used to be a surgery tutor in Sheffield it is interesting that Muslim and Christian medical students suddenly started opting out of parts of their training on ‘religious conscience’ grounds in his last years there. It is certainly one of the few training hospitals with a CMF group and unless I’m mistaken it set the precedent for similar current practice.
He also gave a long,emotional and fact-free presentation to a parliamentary committee over here (Isle Of Man)looking at drafting an assisted dying Bill. After he sat down a local psychologist destroyed his case in 30 seconds flat on the grounds Saunders obviously hadn’t read a government report from either Netherlands or Oregon in over a decade.
He was pretty much laughed out of the room after that.