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Giving Mormons a taste of their own medicine

A WEEK of warm weather has brought forth an army of creepy-crawlies and squadrons of nasty flying things.

They have, of course, invented repellants for pests like that, but, alas, it’s illegal to spray the stuff on Morons and Jehovah’s Witlesses, who have proved an even greater nuisance these last few days.

Which explains today’s post. Enjoy!

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Comments to “Giving Mormons a taste of their own medicine”

Atko
May 15th, 2008 at 9:56 am

That is without a shadow of a doubt the greatest thing I have ever seen!

Well done that man!

Haha, When the guy says “do you really believe that?” Haha, Yer like we are the fucking irastional ones. Its much more sensible to belive in some random guy finding a stone with a message from good in thr US mid-west. Mormanism developed from some guys story he made up and told ina bar to try and get some attention, Nutters

Ned
May 15th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

I want more! Funny as hell!

ZombieHunter
May 16th, 2008 at 1:34 am

@ NED

There is plenty more were that came from.

The Video clip there is from te TV series John Safran vs God, you’ll find loadsa stuff on youtube.

Stephen Falken
May 19th, 2008 at 9:57 am

Very witty and very funny! I think that Mr. Safran has hit the nail on the head. How is it possible to be a ‘true believer’ when you have been brainwashed and indoctrinated since infancy. I mean, ‘Do you still believe in the tooth fairy or Santa?’ Grow up..

Zhubrix
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm

Haha! That is hilarious! Come tho think of it, just a couple of weeks ago, two Mormons came knocking to my door. At first i thought “not again!” but then, seeing as how I had a bit of spare time, I invited them in and started preaching atheism to them. I was quoting stuff from my copy of Richard Dawkins’ “The God Delusion” Their bewildered look was priceless. Of course I was not expecting to straight-out convert them, but the whole situation was unusually fun.

Mallory
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:13 pm

‘Your relatives are monkeys?’

You didn’t do a very good job of explaining the actual foundations of athiesm. In fact you made it look as unreasonable and poorly thought out as the whole ‘god’ concept.

This sort of thing plays into the misconceptions religious people have about athiesm. It’s a pity you didn’t use some better material. I would have suggested Epicurus.

Liz
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:10 pm

I totally agree with Mallory, that’s what I was thinking, especially the whole “we follow Darwin” part. Sure Darwin is marked as the beginning of evolution, but not the beginning of atheism and still he wasn’t completely correct and has been out dated for a while. I’d rather say I follow paleontology. But on the other hand, saying stupid things did reflect the crazy vibe that you get off the real thing. I love the “this is inappropriate” line at the end… yeah, yeah it is. I wish more people would do this… with better materials of course.

The Dentist
May 24th, 2008 at 1:09 am

Awesome. Truely awesome! How come no one else thought of that. We can go on and on about hypocracy, but would it make a bit of difference? Let’s just enjoy watching the theists fume…
also I want to email this to every mormon I know. Somehow I don’t have their emails on my address book…

The Dentist
May 24th, 2008 at 1:12 am

and to the person above me:

I think the point was that they were getting the door slammed on their faces before they could say anything, and they were using stupid catch phrases similiar to the mormons… if they sat down to an intellectual debate (which wouldn’t be funny and thus pointless for the project at hand) they would have clearly destroyed the believers.

Amy
May 24th, 2008 at 2:43 am

I think he meant “Jehovah Witness’”

Beastie
May 24th, 2008 at 4:45 am

Gone from YouTube now. Anyone want to post a new link here in the comments?

Dave
May 24th, 2008 at 5:00 am

While I can’t say I’ve ever had Mormons knock on my door (unlike the Jehovah’s Witnesses in uncountable numbers through the years), and while I am an atheist, I respect the beliefs of others, as is mentioned in the video.

I worked in close quarters with a very devout Mormon lady for a little over a year, and though I internally tsk-tsk’d her faith, I found her to be a completely wonderful lady who never pushed her beliefs on me at all.

Sometimes (OK, usually) I’d slip generally accepted, but taboo to the devout, words, as a way of needling her (words as simple as Damn, or mentioning something mildly sex-related (not a come-on) just to get a reaction. And she was very nice in the way she’d tell me that I ‘really shouldn’t say that.’ Not that I’d burn in Hell for eternity.

It became somewhat of a running joke. She knew I’d be looking just to keep her on her toes with an idle comment or quick response to something, and she was ready to wag her finger at me and basically say, ‘Shame on you’ in a friendly way. She knew I was trying to push her buttons, and it was more of a game than anything else, and I think we both got a kick out of it.

Not once did she ever try to convert me. Not once did she tell me that religion would fix me.

And although our religious (or non-religious, in my case) beliefs don’t coincide, I feel truly lucky to have known and spent time with this lady. She’s arguably the sweetest, most devoid of ill will lady I’ve ever met. I consider her the sister I wish I had. And, although regretfully infrequently, when we see each other, there’s one hell of a hug!! She never took all my little comments or ’slips of the tongue’ in an offensive way.

My heart went out to her when she wasn’t sure where her son would be sent on his Mission (not that I condone the concept or the practice). Could have been anywhere in the world. When she told me he was going to Montana (as opposed to, say, Siberia), I felt relief for my friend, since she’d been so worked up and worried wondering where he’d be sent. And yes, her daughter went to BYU. Surprise.

I may not agree with her religion, or any for that matter, but I feel so much better off for having known her. Maybe they aren’t ALL stereotypical, huh?

Kori
May 24th, 2008 at 6:26 am

I love how very rude and ignorant they are ,they do not even realize the message you are sending,they are a closed minded people very easily brain washed and believe they are the chosen and everyone else is worldly and needs to be saved,keep up the good work,I approve.

rosey roenfanz
May 24th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

i’ve read the book of mormon before, saw the tv ad, called for a free one, when they got into the lds readings with me i’d use the contradictions in my new free book. they didn’t stick around much.

Brainwoman
May 24th, 2008 at 5:38 pm

It’s a funny prank, but not something I’d want to support as representative of thoughtful or informed atheism. If I am going to annoy someone I prefer to do so as response to something they have personally done to me. If someone interupts my privacy by knocking on my door to sell something, whether it be religion or anything else, THEN I will respond in as much “kind” as I can. I do not approve of randomly annoying others who have a low probability of annoying me.

wednesday
May 25th, 2008 at 2:46 am

As an ex-Mormon (raised in the bloody church), you’ve just expressed everything I feel. To the point that I’ve had to put on my door a note which says, “No soliciting. Not even for God.” Thank you.

SMOKEY DEMON
May 25th, 2008 at 2:53 am

If you are a man, the mormon religion is great! Imagine eventually becoming a god! If your wife doesn’t do exactly as you say, you can deny her entry into heaven! What I don’t understand is why any woman in her right mind would have any thing at all to do with this stupid, sexist, misoginistic religion.

Olean
May 26th, 2008 at 12:41 am

I’ll second the guy who knew the sweet old mormon lady in saying that not all mormons try to push religion on you. I live in a tiny town filled with mormons and in fact, I’ve got a close group of friends that I am the only Nonmormon and my atheism isn’t really an issue. I’ve even gone on a few trips with them (the girls, I mean) to the beach and such, with no problems from any one. So while missionaries are quite annoying, not all mormons are like that at all!

-Olean

married to one
May 26th, 2008 at 1:17 am

Here is an idea I think that all you a$$holes should try. A missionary knocks at your door and you don’t want to be bothered, don’t answer. Yet another idea. They knock, you answer and simply say your not interested. They will understand. They are not sub human so please stop treating them as such because of your beliefs. There are so many other things that you should spend your time on other then hating someone because they want to share something that they feel so strongly about with you. You don’t have to slam doors and be rude. Just say no thanks and thats that. Maybe you should spend that energy hating terrorists or looking into the crap that the US Govt is doing then trying to figure out ways to invite someone in and trying to make them feel stupid for believing in something other what you think is right or wrong.

Chris
May 26th, 2008 at 4:21 am

I was raised in the LDS church as well and, while I do not agree with all of the things it teaches and haven’t considered myself part of the church or attended for a good 10 years, it annoys me to know end when people make ignorant comments about it. Smokey, know what you are talking about before you open your mouth and make yourself look stupid.

As for what Dave said, we all need to look at that. It does not help at all to simply offend. You need to look at people for themselves and ignore the religion aspect. If missionaries offend you, simple tell them you are not interested in the religions message. You might make a friend.

And here is something to note that I bet you didn’t know. Salt Lake City has a huge homosexual population. Ask yourself why? Could it have something to do with the LDS people generally being very accepting as compared to the rest of the United States?

Finally, I cannot help but distrust any video that obviously chose to show only the worst receptions that they received. Sorry.

PS…we would be more related to apes, not monkeys…huge difference.

neb
May 26th, 2008 at 4:25 am

The idea behind this is funny, true…however, i find this to be immature and setting a bad name for atheists. Personally, I don’t believe in a higher power, and I really don’t give a shit about retaliating or arguing about it either. I find it odd that there are actually MILITANT atheists. WTF? You’re not religious…so why do you even care about debating/flouncing it. Really, why do other atheists make such a big deal out of something so damn trivial?! Sickening…

John Smith
May 27th, 2008 at 6:53 pm

Looks like the richeous people see as their right to slap people with stick if they propose contradictory thoughts about their religion. So next time, why don’t you have a stick handy when they knock your door.

Sol
May 28th, 2008 at 1:42 am

So you’ve assumed not only that everyone in Salt Lake City, Utah, is a Mormon, but also that every person in Salt Lake City, Utah, spends their Saturday mornings bothering people before lunch and therefore deserves to have the same done to them? Seems like you haven’t actually made any point. You’ve just bothered more people.

ExLegeLibertas
May 28th, 2008 at 6:22 am

@MARRIED TO ONE:

Here’s a better idea – stop harassing people with your nonsense. I shouldn’t have to barricade myself in my house to get away from the delusional morons preaching gibberish and ignorance every morning.

@CHRIS

Mormons are “more accepting”? This is the religion that didn’t consider blacks to be *PEOPLE* until a convenient “revelation” around the time of the Civil Rights Act. Talk about having your facts straight, huh?

Cattleprod
May 28th, 2008 at 4:50 pm

@EXLEGELIBERTAS

Since you emphasize facts, it should be noted that blacks were denied the mormon priesthood until 1978, but they were never denied membership in the church or considered non-people.

Mormons are fairly tolerant compared to many other Christian denominations. As an example, see http://www.rickross.com/refere.....rmon1.html. More than 4000 mormons helped with the construction of the Hare Krishna temple is Spanish Fork. Can you imagine that from your average Evangelical church?

elar
May 28th, 2008 at 10:20 pm

meh. not that funny. And his high pitched squeaky whining combined with that *thhhubtle lithhhp* makes for the most annoying voice i have EVER heard. Sir, feel free to write jokes, but please, for all our ears sake, let someone else deliver them. It’s like birds fighting over bread crumbs or something…

Monosodium
May 29th, 2008 at 3:24 am

@Married to one:

I think they don’t understand that you don’t want to talk to them, or just don’t care… and that’s the point. I do agree with what is being said in defense of the mormons… Would’ve made a better video had you actually solicited mormons that solicited. Without any direction those attacking what you did have a point in saying that these people in all likelihood did nothing to you and never would have.

Everyone else was adding their two-cence, figured I might as well too

Matt
May 29th, 2008 at 12:08 pm

Best way to deal with all the door knockers is to always invite them in, and before you start preaching at them on the ways of atheism offer them a cup of tea. They will always accept, and its the perfect way to force them to stay and listen to your views on the topic, admittedly i have never seen someone downing a cup of tea quite as fast as the last few who entertained me.
Great video. keep it up

Sveden
May 29th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

Ah… what a breath of fresh air.

Very well done.

Dick Kennedy
May 29th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

Well, this is what Mormonism leads to:
http://www.weeklyworldinquisit....._baby.html

Courtney
May 29th, 2008 at 5:27 pm

I’m an atheist myself, but one of my best friends is Mormon. I’ve been to Mormon social gatherings with her, met her family, met her friends, and I have to say that they are all the nicest, most humble people I have ever met, without exception. And tolerant? Never have I met a more tolerant group of people. They accepted me, a homosexual atheist, and they welcome people of all religions to their social gatherings. (I saw a large group of Catholics.) None of the Mormons I’ve ever met have ever tried to push their religion onto me.

Since this feeling of good will lingers over every Mormon I have ever met, I can’t help but think that their religion leads to some excellent parenting and teaching. And aren’t we all trying to make a little good in the world? Why would you antagonize people who believe in something which contributes to that? Those people in Utah are not the people who interrupt your Saturday mornings.

Now, more to the point: Mormons =/= Jehovah’s Witnesses

Cattleprod
May 29th, 2008 at 5:29 pm

A couple of additional comments…

1. Salt Lake City is less than 50% Mormon. Aside from the one guy who said he was a bishop, how do we know he was talking to Mormons at all?

2. It is obvious that he was trying to be as “in your face” as possible with the hope of provoking an angry reaction, as evidenced by his repeated interruptions of some of the people to whom he was speaking. Most Mormon missionaries are polite to the point of irritation (aside from the Saturday AM knocks on your door).

3. I’m sure some of the people didn’t appreciate the fact that he was dressed up in a manner that mocks Mormon missionaries, so that probably set the tone for the conversations.

4. I find it amusing that the worst reaction he could come up was some grouchy old dude (mormon? who knows?) swatting at him with a rake. Most of the people in the video were actually quite polite in their rejections. You’d think he could have come up with some better clips than that. Maybe the people of Salt Lake City just didn’t deliver the reactions he was looking for.

5. Yawn.

Commander Keen
May 29th, 2008 at 6:55 pm

Mormon missionaries only try to help people, what good are you doing the world by mocking people that are trying to make it better?

Shadow Puppet
May 31st, 2008 at 7:08 pm

@Commander Keen
Yes, missionaries do sometimes help people, but does that need to be done in a religious way? In this day and age, we should be past pushing our hateful and intolerant idea to others.

I happen to know two mormons, both male, both wishing to become missionaries, both hoping to go to BYU. They are nice people, but so stuck up in their own religious beliefs, it is a surprise their heads arent covered in crap from the god they have their heads stuck up. They are my best friends, but sometimes I actually find it hard to stomach what they say. I asked one of them once why they do good things and not curse and be nice and all and they said “So I can have eternal happiness and be saved” BS. You should not help anyone for that ideal, it is completely wrong to be good for selfish ends.

Kelsey
June 2nd, 2008 at 11:55 pm

There is a difference between FLDS Mormons, and LDS Mormons. FLDS are extremely misogynistic, believe men can become rulers of their own planets, believe blacks are the incarnation of those who refused to choose a side in the war in heaven, wear special underwear, sometimes practice polygamy, and some take child brides. They strictly follow the teachings of Joseph Smith, who was a crazy pervert. He was actually murdered by a mob of his own followers for attempting to silence their opinions.

LDS Mormons do not consider FLDS Mormons to be part of their church, and they do not wish to be associated with FLDS Mormons in anyway. LDS Mormons are about as crazy or pushy as any Catholic or Methodist might be, it is the FLDS that are nuts.

This video was humorous and of course biased. The tid-bit about monkeys and Darwin are inaccurate but used to make a point. I don’t care what its for, I don’t want anyone uninvited knocking on my door, ever, unless they are the mailman, a friend, or trick-or-treaters.

Alex?
June 3rd, 2008 at 8:56 pm

If he didn’t care, he wouldn’t be getting so riled.

Go away from youtube.

Spenser
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:16 pm

Fucking awesome! I HATE those annoying bastard banging on my door every morning. its happened 3 times in the last month and a half! LEAVE ME ALONE!!

Tasha
June 4th, 2008 at 2:16 am

Haha. I loved it, way to go. Keep up the good work.

loonacy
June 6th, 2008 at 1:46 am

Dude, that was AWESOME!!! Go figure the religious nuts don’t want to be bothered with a message they don’t like but it is perfectly fine to pester me after a night of drinking too much. God damn bastards!

Chris
June 15th, 2008 at 5:54 pm

Wish he would’ve knocked at my door, I would’ve loved to have debated with him. Not that i’m that deep in Christianity, i’m just really good with apologetics. He would either walk away or start getting louder to make his point. Louder points are more valid.

I have had a debate with a Jehovah’s Witness before like that. I’ve never seen one get so red. It was greatness. I need to start recording it…

Brenna
June 16th, 2008 at 1:53 am

I’m a Mormon, and I would like to say I found this absolutely…hilarious.
Yes, I found it funny. I don’t care that he completely critizes us, I really don’t, I just found this really funny to watch. If there are Mormons out there who find this offensive, well, they need to get a sense of humor.
Make more, please.

Kate
June 16th, 2008 at 6:54 pm

That was hilarious!
I, myself, am a Christian but I also believe to respect others and their beliefs. There is nothing that bothers me more when others push their beliefs on others. And Mormons are the worst at that! Drives me nuts! That dude totally gave them what they deserve. I like how that bishop pushed him away with a broom. Who does that? But that same bishop would expect his little disciples to march around the streets and bother people at their residences and be so intrusive. Whenever they come to my door, they are so pushy, they don’t allow you to decline. They just keep pushing their message. How do they see that will work?? As a religious person, Mormons embarrass me.

Angela Hayden
June 18th, 2008 at 5:05 pm

This made my morning. I posted on my blog. Who is the guy in the video?

Grace
June 19th, 2008 at 12:39 am

Hilarious. I’ve found though, that when I’m confronted by a Mormon or JW at my door, I say as many horribly offensive things as possible, until they choose to vacate my property.

Don’t get me wrong, I know a Mormon girl who is awesome, but when you knock on my door trying to shed your bullshit beliefs on someone who didn’t ask for them, you’re asking for offensive retaliation.

@ Everyone who’s annoyed at this guy: He DID make a point; Plus, it’s hilarious, so chill out and laugh every once in a while… or is that a sin too?

Pattern Finder
June 19th, 2008 at 4:13 am

sorry if it’s a repost, stopped around #25)
ya know, I’ve noticed a pattern about these things. The first few posts (about 5-8) are generally overly-accepting and give an overwhelming approval rate. However, people tend to “come around” after about 10 posts. They start criticizing people for this stuff, and often for good reason. However, I don’t think the video should be criticized in and of itself- it marvelously captures the arrogance of many Jehovah’s Witnesses (and indeed other sects of Xian faith).

The video is satire- nothing more. The “monkeys) comment and the others like it are meant to reflect on the numerous contradictions that these “door-to-door- religion salesmen” use on a regular basis. Their quoting of pop music lyrics is a parody of door-to-door’s use of a “fairy tale book” as “proof” that God exists.

As for the asinine comments, well, that just goes to show you that on both the religious right and the freethinkers side of this debate, there are dumbasses that think a snide comment here or a paragraph of mockery there is funny to someone. Myself, I pride myself in being tolerant of others, given 2 conditions:
You aren’t pushing anything on me in a serious way, and
You aren’t a jackass.

Calvin Muir
June 19th, 2008 at 9:45 am

i stumbled to this and ill tell you i agree that you shouldnt of preached that we all fallow the teaching of darowism… BUT….. it didndt really matter for the point he was trying to get across… doesnt matter if all atheiest belive darwin was right or that we follow his teachings… but it the point was that they gave the more insulted reaction then most athiest … he just proved no body likes sum wun forcing there beliefs no matter what they be at 9 o clock on a saturday morning… not even mormans who do it all the time… i hope he does sumthing about jahovas they’re more forceful than the morman insistant to come in t ur house after 5 min of knocking just as early as mormans… cocky bastards…

Cool HD Wallpapers
June 19th, 2008 at 4:00 pm

lol..funny video

Taro
June 20th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

I’ve Been Reading Some Of The Comments, And Sadly Am Let Down. They Seem To Like To Miss The Whole Point Of The Video. It Was A Small Gag To Prove The Point Of How Annoying It Is To Have Someone Wake You Up, Or Bother You In The Morning To Push Their Thoughts On You. He Wasn’t Getting The Whole Point Across Because He Wasn’t TRYING To, He Was Trying To Give An Example. Like The Title Of The Video Is Named “A Taste Of Their Own Medicine”
At A Further Note, He Isn’t Being Disrespectful To Others Religious Callings, He Was Proving A Point.

Dan
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:04 am

I have nothing inspiring or intelligent to say, other than I am haivng a really horrible time at the moment, and that video brought me to tears of laughter. Cheers. Here’s to you. And science.

peggy
August 15th, 2008 at 6:27 am

you have no idea

Dennis Poulsen
September 28th, 2008 at 11:13 pm

You can leave it but you can’t leave it
alone. Loved the Story about the fellow
who had a wonderful Mormon lady neighbor. They must have something there.

JHasANutt4U
January 17th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

This was by far the best attempt at religous rebellion I have ever seen. You guys that are griping about this not being the basis of aethism should go and suck a nut! You should be more concerned about the labeling you choose as appropriate for yourselves. We are “Freethinkers!” Not aethists. Calling yourselves aethiest affirms an assumption that all people believe in god and we have to set ourselves apart as the ones who do not believe. Instead of Thiests and Athiests, we should be using Freethinkers and Nonfreethinkers. Let the believers have the negated word. All people are born freethinkers, as we can attest to seeing a child as having a free mind and then being coerced by religous people into irrationality. This video gives me hope that soon an antireligous revolution is coming. This of course requires all of us to take a stand for our freethinking rights and move into the realm of the enemy so they know we are here and we refuse to take the oppression any longer.