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		<title>By: The Freethinker &#8250; Converting Muslims to Christianity: It’s a ‘No-Go’ area for the C of E</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2008/06/01/barmpots-have-a-right-to-be-heard-too/comment-page-1/#comment-5789</link>
		<dc:creator>The Freethinker &#8250; Converting Muslims to Christianity: It’s a ‘No-Go’ area for the C of E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Prophet is like throwing a lighted match into a fireworks factory, as two evangelists discovered in Birmingham [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rory Connor</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2008/06/01/barmpots-have-a-right-to-be-heard-too/comment-page-1/#comment-5715</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following is from an article by Michele Hanson in The Guardian yesterday 3rd June. It is classic Orwellian Doublethink (rather than Hypocrisy). If push comes to shove, guess who will be more likely to fight against the imposition of Islamic fascism - Evangelical preachers or Guardian journalists?

&quot;Two American Christian preachers have been told off by a community police officer for preaching in a Muslim area of Birmingham. Good. If only preachers were banned everywhere. The Jews don&#039;t try to convert anyone. They are not at all keen on converts, so perhaps preachers should take a leaf out of their book, because no one likes to be told that their beliefs are rubbish and someone else&#039;s are better. Is there anything more annoying than people coming to your street or your house uninvited and pushing their ideas down your throat? I was trained from an early age to detest it. My father would open the door and my mother would throw tennis balls at them from behind him - an unconventional but effective response.

The two rejected Birmingham preachers have been moaning about human rights and their freedom of expression, but preaching and American missionary-style &quot;spreading God&#039;s word&quot; is more about bossing than expressing. They&#039;re convinced they&#039;re right. But does anyone dare tell them off? Off they go, all over the world, come across a culture that&#039;s minding its own business, with its own perfectly adequate belief system, and insist on imposing their own ideas. What a cheek. Who am I to criticize? I must practice what I preach. So believe what you like, everyone, but leave the rest of us alone. We can make our own minds up.&quot;

Rory</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following is from an article by Michele Hanson in The Guardian yesterday 3rd June. It is classic Orwellian Doublethink (rather than Hypocrisy). If push comes to shove, guess who will be more likely to fight against the imposition of Islamic fascism &#8211; Evangelical preachers or Guardian journalists?</p>
<p>&#8220;Two American Christian preachers have been told off by a community police officer for preaching in a Muslim area of Birmingham. Good. If only preachers were banned everywhere. The Jews don&#8217;t try to convert anyone. They are not at all keen on converts, so perhaps preachers should take a leaf out of their book, because no one likes to be told that their beliefs are rubbish and someone else&#8217;s are better. Is there anything more annoying than people coming to your street or your house uninvited and pushing their ideas down your throat? I was trained from an early age to detest it. My father would open the door and my mother would throw tennis balls at them from behind him &#8211; an unconventional but effective response.</p>
<p>The two rejected Birmingham preachers have been moaning about human rights and their freedom of expression, but preaching and American missionary-style &#8220;spreading God&#8217;s word&#8221; is more about bossing than expressing. They&#8217;re convinced they&#8217;re right. But does anyone dare tell them off? Off they go, all over the world, come across a culture that&#8217;s minding its own business, with its own perfectly adequate belief system, and insist on imposing their own ideas. What a cheek. Who am I to criticize? I must practice what I preach. So believe what you like, everyone, but leave the rest of us alone. We can make our own minds up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rory</p>
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		<title>By: TW</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2008/06/01/barmpots-have-a-right-to-be-heard-too/comment-page-1/#comment-5643</link>
		<dc:creator>TW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article hits several good points all at once, well done.

First off, it highlights the shambles that PCSO&#039;s really are. Get rid of them and get more real policement out on the streets. PCSO&#039;s are generally uniformed thugs mixed with cretins who cant get a real job.

Secondly the whole idea that people are commiting a hate crime by preaching is mind boggling. Granted if these two twerps came to my door there is a reasonable chance they would have to leave or be beaten but that is because I am a ratty atheist. This is the (obvious) outcome of the weird legislation we have in the UK. You can almost pity the PCSO (who I suspect is too close a member of this community to properly police them), given the chaotic state of &quot;Free Speech&quot; in the UK today...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article hits several good points all at once, well done.</p>
<p>First off, it highlights the shambles that PCSO&#8217;s really are. Get rid of them and get more real policement out on the streets. PCSO&#8217;s are generally uniformed thugs mixed with cretins who cant get a real job.</p>
<p>Secondly the whole idea that people are commiting a hate crime by preaching is mind boggling. Granted if these two twerps came to my door there is a reasonable chance they would have to leave or be beaten but that is because I am a ratty atheist. This is the (obvious) outcome of the weird legislation we have in the UK. You can almost pity the PCSO (who I suspect is too close a member of this community to properly police them), given the chaotic state of &#8220;Free Speech&#8221; in the UK today&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GagWatch &#187; West Midlands Police: Offended on your behalf</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2008/06/01/barmpots-have-a-right-to-be-heard-too/comment-page-1/#comment-5642</link>
		<dc:creator>GagWatch &#187; West Midlands Police: Offended on your behalf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Undercover Mosque fiasco, a police community support officer (PCSO) in Birmingham has ordered (via) two evangelical Christians to stop handing out leaflets in a predominantly Muslim area. Arthur [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Valdemar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valdemar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;...the officer would be given training in understanding hate crime and communication.&#039; 
Or a lesson in how, over several hundred years, some noble people fought (and died) for free speech. And that includes free speech for evangelical bores, bigoted Muslims and all the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;&#8230;the officer would be given training in understanding hate crime and communication.&#8217;<br />
Or a lesson in how, over several hundred years, some noble people fought (and died) for free speech. And that includes free speech for evangelical bores, bigoted Muslims and all the rest.</p>
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