Comments on: Religion more important than hygiene, days dotty Muslim doctor

By: ghadeer

ghadeer — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:51:34 +0000

Muslim women have all the freedom to wear what they want and to follow their beliefs…as it is a personal freedom for any other women in the world.
I think we all must respect these women because they do not do anything wrong unless following their relegion is a sin.
But to be honest i must say that this all black wear is not a part of Islam…Muslim women can show their faces and wear something comfortable because the goal of these clothes is not to fatigue the women or to tie her.
But the clothes you see in the picture is more a tradition and a costume between the people only, and if you go to other Muslim countries you won’t find all women like this.
for the sleeves it is not a big deal because a Lab Coat is with sleeves and you do not roll them up…i agree that it carry bugs but today there are million ways to sterilize clothes before dealing with a patient.
The problem is that people do not understand Islam in depth and they do not know what it means to muslims…they just have the wrong information from media or any other way.
Finally, i want to state that all this issue is not a big deal…the big deal is that many people ignore important issues and massacres on innocent people…and waste their time on proving something wrong about Islam.

By: Andy Armitage

Andy Armitage — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 11:55:04 +0000

OK, Mark. Here’s one not from a racist, and one who recognises the gutter press when it’s being twattishly gutterish, thank you very much, since I can tell when rags like the Daily Mail are stirring it.

But let’s be objective. It’s accepted that clothes can carry bugs, yes? If you don’t accept that, then we’re into a different argument. So let’s take that as read. Sleeves can harbour bugs that a well-scrubbed forearm is less likely to (unless the person is extremely hairy and has arm-hair nits, which I don’t think exist). So we have someone in a medical environment who is more liekly to spread bugs.

Are we agreed so far? If we are, then it is a no-brainer that she should roll up her sleeves. End of argument, as far as I can see. Or were you making some other point?

As for your mention of how papers don’t mention other important things such as the butchering of innocents in the name of Western “freedom”, I quite agree. Most newspapers simply go with the accepted (and acceptable – read permissible) narrative and do as their proprietors tell them. Their proprietors are hand in glove with politicians, who know how valuable those papers can be. So we get an unholy alliance. See, for instance, how the Sun here in the UK offered its support to New Labour in the 1990s, instead of remaining in bed with the Tories, and just what kind of Labour government we have as a result of that Faustian (Murdochian) pact.

Most journos toe the line because they’ll lose their jobs otherwise. It’s not part of the desired narrative at the moment to make a big fuss of people getting massacred because Uncle Sam says massacre them. However, true though that is (I believe, anyway), it has no bearing on the baring an arm if that will keep bad bugs at bay. A sleeve that is the bearer of bugs is deemed not as healthy as a bare arm, and religion should not be an excuse. If religious beliefs get in the way of doing a job, then don’t do the job. I wouldn’t expect a Jehovah’s Witness to work for the National Blood Transfusion Service.

By: mark

mark — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:19:57 +0000

This is exactly the kind of negative reporting that engages hatred and prejudice. As a white non-Muslim I am conducting my PhD thesis on the negative representation of not just Muslims but any social group that doesn’t fall within the American propaganda model.

The story released from right-wing papers about the Muslims not scrubbing up in hospitals was intended for the public to relate it to the more general hygiene problems of MRSA and turn public opinion against them – similar to the type of reporting the Jews had to suffer in Nazi Germany! Little mention in these papers of the Muslim women and children who are butchered by the West in Afghanistan and Iraq on a daily basis in the name ‘freedom’!

Most of the comments I’ve read here are not from freethinkers but from people who seem to enjoy being manipulated by the racist gutter press.

By: Harvey

Harvey — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:37:46 +0000

Roll your sleeves up and wash your hands you dirty buggers. I’m just glad they don’t work in a kitchen serving food.

By: Valdemar

Valdemar — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:05:33 +0000

Odd she should have complied with the dress code at first. Was she got at to make trouble, perhaps by (duh duh DUHHH!) a man with a beard? Perhaps – here’s a wild thought – Dr Katme himself? Muslim radicals are going around stirring up trouble. Great. Very clever. Because when you’re a small, violent and unreasonable minority that insists on insulting and taunting the majority, and demanding handouts and special privileges, nothing could possibly go wrong. Could it?

By: TERMINUS EST

TERMINUS EST — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:42:39 +0000

She has every right to look for a different job, one that doesn’t violate her “modesty”.

I can’t help but wonder how modest she can be when she makes so much noise over something that is clearly healthier for everyone involved, including her. Perhaps she has a different motive?

As for Katme, I pity those who listen to his ignorant advice.