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		<title>By: Mit</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2008/12/01/can-eye-for-an-eye-justice-ever-be-right/comment-page-1/#comment-23693</link>
		<dc:creator>Mit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eye for an eye, that&#039;s what being a human is all about. Look at World War 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eye for an eye, that&#8217;s what being a human is all about. Look at World War 2.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2008/12/01/can-eye-for-an-eye-justice-ever-be-right/comment-page-1/#comment-19723</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah Ed.  I always love an optimist- as I too am often one, always thinking that people can be &quot;saved.&quot;  But I really find that this punishment does fit the crime.  This man still is fixated on this woman- and he has threatened to kill her.  This is exactly what the people need- punishment for acts that they know are wrong.  
 
 Would it surprise you to know that I am a psychology major?  The legal definition of &quot;Insanity&quot; is, when one does not know that they are doing any wrong at the time they commit the crime.  Such a small percent of people claim or try to claim the &quot;insanity defense,&quot; with a very small portion actually getting approved for such.  This man was not insane.  I will tell you, what I think though, with my arm chair view. 
 
Women in the societies in which we speak, are treated as less than people.  Men on the other hand, are treated like kings, like Gods, even as little children.  The little boys grow up, seeing their father&#039;s dehumanize the mothers and daughters, and why should they ever do any different?  Some do change, and- the truth is, we are not controlled by how we are brought up- but it does affect the way we initially act in the world.  It is a GOOD THING to make people responsible for their actions.  And hopefully, with time, and with punishment, the perpetrators with their punishments will send a message loud and clear- &quot;WOMEN ARE PEOPLE TOO.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah Ed.  I always love an optimist- as I too am often one, always thinking that people can be &quot;saved.&quot;  But I really find that this punishment does fit the crime.  This man still is fixated on this woman- and he has threatened to kill her.  This is exactly what the people need- punishment for acts that they know are wrong.  </p>
<p> Would it surprise you to know that I am a psychology major?  The legal definition of &quot;Insanity&quot; is, when one does not know that they are doing any wrong at the time they commit the crime.  Such a small percent of people claim or try to claim the &quot;insanity defense,&quot; with a very small portion actually getting approved for such.  This man was not insane.  I will tell you, what I think though, with my arm chair view. </p>
<p>Women in the societies in which we speak, are treated as less than people.  Men on the other hand, are treated like kings, like Gods, even as little children.  The little boys grow up, seeing their father&#039;s dehumanize the mothers and daughters, and why should they ever do any different?  Some do change, and- the truth is, we are not controlled by how we are brought up- but it does affect the way we initially act in the world.  It is a GOOD THING to make people responsible for their actions.  And hopefully, with time, and with punishment, the perpetrators with their punishments will send a message loud and clear- &quot;WOMEN ARE PEOPLE TOO.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Sonya S. G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonya S. G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>continued: The problem with Sharaih law and  the entire system which the Islamic Republic has perpetuated is that they don&#039;t really help to prevent anything from happening!!! There are many such incidents which the perpetrators either run away from or get acquitted, which the Iranian government doesn&#039;t tell you about.  ____Once the crime is committed, only the punishment might be carried out.  The schooling and parenting system in Iran is not so advanced as to help children with psychological abnormaties or to even teach them to respect women and each other.  ____Therefore, though I would feel the same as Ameneh if the same had happened to me, I would have to say that I am not in support of eye-for-eye because it is not justice, just brutality inflicted another who probably never learned any better.____Therefore, I believe the entire system is at fault, not just one person and blinding this man or torturing him will not prevent such incidents from happening. With that said, I hope that Miss Bahrami gets the love and support she needs from her community to get through these hard times and find a way to live a meaningful life despite this horrible incident.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>continued: The problem with Sharaih law and  the entire system which the Islamic Republic has perpetuated is that they don&#039;t really help to prevent anything from happening!!! There are many such incidents which the perpetrators either run away from or get acquitted, which the Iranian government doesn&#039;t tell you about.  ____Once the crime is committed, only the punishment might be carried out.  The schooling and parenting system in Iran is not so advanced as to help children with psychological abnormaties or to even teach them to respect women and each other.  ____Therefore, though I would feel the same as Ameneh if the same had happened to me, I would have to say that I am not in support of eye-for-eye because it is not justice, just brutality inflicted another who probably never learned any better.____Therefore, I believe the entire system is at fault, not just one person and blinding this man or torturing him will not prevent such incidents from happening. With that said, I hope that Miss Bahrami gets the love and support she needs from her community to get through these hard times and find a way to live a meaningful life despite this horrible incident.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonya S. G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonya S. G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am Iranian woman and I can totally understand how Ameneh Bahrami feels.  If the same had happened to me, I, too, would have wanted the other person to go through what I went through.  Her life is forever destroyed.  However I don&#039;t think the shariah law of eye for eye will help to solve this problem in the long run.  The crime rate in Iran, which includes murders, thefts, and rapes have not been reduced as a result of Shariah Law.  Women, in general, continue to remain the subject of abuse in many ways.____Believe it or not, I wonder what type of upbringing the guy had that made him think he had a right to painfully disfigure and blind a woman for not agreeing to marry him.  What did his parents teach him??? Weren&#039;t there signs of abnormality thorughout his childhood and teen years that society should have paid attention to to prevent this from happening??  Perhaps at home, throughout his schooling years and so on?? Were his parents educated??? were his teachers educated??? what was his psychological state and who were the people in his life and how did they influence him???  I know many think that these are unimportant, but I do think that they are important.______ </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Iranian woman and I can totally understand how Ameneh Bahrami feels.  If the same had happened to me, I, too, would have wanted the other person to go through what I went through.  Her life is forever destroyed.  However I don&#039;t think the shariah law of eye for eye will help to solve this problem in the long run.  The crime rate in Iran, which includes murders, thefts, and rapes have not been reduced as a result of Shariah Law.  Women, in general, continue to remain the subject of abuse in many ways.____Believe it or not, I wonder what type of upbringing the guy had that made him think he had a right to painfully disfigure and blind a woman for not agreeing to marry him.  What did his parents teach him??? Weren&#039;t there signs of abnormality thorughout his childhood and teen years that society should have paid attention to to prevent this from happening??  Perhaps at home, throughout his schooling years and so on?? Were his parents educated??? were his teachers educated??? what was his psychological state and who were the people in his life and how did they influence him???  I know many think that these are unimportant, but I do think that they are important.______</p>
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		<title>By: Abe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 04:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How on earth can you blame Islam for this?  This awful behavior is clearly condemned-- the attacker is being punished.  You may not agree with the punishment, but the man certainly isn&#039;t getting away with his crime, and Islam isn&#039;t endorsing his crime in the slightest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How on earth can you blame Islam for this?  This awful behavior is clearly condemned&#8211; the attacker is being punished.  You may not agree with the punishment, but the man certainly isn&#8217;t getting away with his crime, and Islam isn&#8217;t endorsing his crime in the slightest.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think she has right to reguest of eye for eye. So in the future nobody going to have the balls to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think she has right to reguest of eye for eye. So in the future nobody going to have the balls to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Publius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with an eye for an eye - none of you know what that woman is going through. Unfortunately letting him spend a few years in jail is not justice. I hope this man is blinded with acid and made to suffer while at the same time serving as a warning to others contemplating this. 

This has nothing to do with Islam (is it widespread in the arabian peninsula?) But is rather a result of traditional male stupidness found in parts of Asia (which is why it is also common in India among Hindus - remember, they used to demand a wife burn alive when her husband died).

The Taliban are the same - unable to control their sexual urges and raging jealous of another man even looking at their women. This is not a religious problem, it is a very, very serious social problem one that the world needs to stop being afraid to confront. We need psychologists to address this and for the world to accept the role of sexual frustration and male jealousy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with an eye for an eye &#8211; none of you know what that woman is going through. Unfortunately letting him spend a few years in jail is not justice. I hope this man is blinded with acid and made to suffer while at the same time serving as a warning to others contemplating this. </p>
<p>This has nothing to do with Islam (is it widespread in the arabian peninsula?) But is rather a result of traditional male stupidness found in parts of Asia (which is why it is also common in India among Hindus &#8211; remember, they used to demand a wife burn alive when her husband died).</p>
<p>The Taliban are the same &#8211; unable to control their sexual urges and raging jealous of another man even looking at their women. This is not a religious problem, it is a very, very serious social problem one that the world needs to stop being afraid to confront. We need psychologists to address this and for the world to accept the role of sexual frustration and male jealousy.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is it with Islam and the insecurity of Islamic men?  Their entire world seems to revolve around their insecurity when it comes to women and sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is it with Islam and the insecurity of Islamic men?  Their entire world seems to revolve around their insecurity when it comes to women and sex.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The attacker never repented.  So punish him harshly.  This is the law of the King and if the man repents then let his actions reflect this.  Repenting to me would involve willingly giving financial support for life for crippling another person.  If he doesn&#039;t truly repent, have out his eyes. May God help him in his darkness if he should decide to repent after his punishment. 

If she has to bear this burden and still be righteous, then so should he.  All will be settled in court of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The attacker never repented.  So punish him harshly.  This is the law of the King and if the man repents then let his actions reflect this.  Repenting to me would involve willingly giving financial support for life for crippling another person.  If he doesn&#8217;t truly repent, have out his eyes. May God help him in his darkness if he should decide to repent after his punishment. </p>
<p>If she has to bear this burden and still be righteous, then so should he.  All will be settled in court of God.</p>
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		<title>By: Han Solo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Han Solo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets see how many of you bleeding hearts change your tune when YOU get YOUR face scarred and blinded. To hell with that guy, dip him in acid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets see how many of you bleeding hearts change your tune when YOU get YOUR face scarred and blinded. To hell with that guy, dip him in acid.</p>
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