CHURCHESÂ in the United States aren’t anti-gay – all they really, really want is to communicate that:
It isn’t just that we believe gay marriage is bad for Christians, the culture at large, etc, but it is ultimately bad for homosexuals if we really believe God has something different in mind for them. This is true for anyone who desires the fullness of joy and peace that God wants them to have.
Bob Stith and grandsons
Come again?
This incomprehensible quote is attributed here to some fundie imbecile called Bob Stith, who heads the Ministry to Homosexuals Task Force in the Southern Baptist Convention – the largest Protestant denomination in the US.
The Texas pastor has more to say along these lines:
Whether someone is living with another person outside the marriage covenant, is a serial adulterer, or engaging in premarital sex, they cannot experience all that God wants them to have. Our motive should not be simply to deny gay marriage but to hold out the hope, the promise and the fullness that God wants all people to know.
I’ve not seen any attempt [by the mass media] to understand or communicate the real concern of Christians concerning gay marriage.
That’s because you – and people like you – are incapable of making any sense at all when it comes to gay issues, you tosser.
“Ex-lesbian” Melissa Fryrear, Director of the gender issues department of the idiotic Focus on the Family organisation added this dollop of garbage:
I’m not anti-gay because I’m a Christian and I’m a heterosexual evangelical Christian. I’m pro-biblical sexual ethic. I’m pro-God’s created intent for sexuality that being marriage between a man and a woman. That’s what I’m for, so anything that falls outside of that falls out of God’s intent.
So, coveting my neighbour’s “ass” is still a no-no then?
“I’m pro-biblical sexual ethic.”
That is fantastic! Me too! Let’s rape our sons and daughters!
“I’ve not seen any attempt [by the mass media] to understand or communicate the real concern of Christians concerning gay marriage.â€
Oh, such as murdering gays, forcing gays out of the community, attempts at brain-washing gays to be ‘straight, picketing gay events with “god hates fags†banner etc.
Here we go again – silly little people telling us what their made-up God ‘wants’. Why not tell us what Gandalf, the Little Mermaid or King Arthur want from us for good measure? I never cease to be amazed at the decency and restraint of gays and other targets of this bigotry. How rarely the targets of these bigots resort to violence – now that’s real morality.
What a bunch of Plonkers
I hope “Ex-lesbian†Melissa Fryrear has another bang on her head and can go back to enjoying her life.
Valdemar, never imply that the Little Mermaid dosen’t exist. I’m a 65 year old man and I’m a virgin still waiting for my Mermaid.
When I read quotes like this, from evangelical christians trying to justify their bigotry, I tend to just think, “anybody so dumb or so misguided as to believe this nonsensical claptrap probably is beyond the reach of reason anyway.”
When talking to some of these people in person, I usually remark on how similar they sound to the Christians of the 1800s justifying slavery on biblical grounds, and that they sound even MORE like Baptists in the southern U.S. in the 1950s and 1960s, using their bible to justify preventing marriage between “races”, and segregation.
Step by step, the extreme fringe of the christian church in America is losing the cultural war (and I should point out that most Christians I meet have no problem with gays, etc., it’s the “born again” ones you need to watch out for). First, they lost the battle to keep slaves, then they lost the battle to keep segregation, then they lost the battle to prevent interracial marriage, and now they’re losing the battle over same-sex marriage.
A long, slow road, but we’re getting there, a state at a time. (Europe is fortunate to have a lower percentage of radical religious people).
I personally enjoyed reading what Pastor Bob wrote. My heart breaks when I read the sarcastic comments above.
“This incomprehensible quote is attributed here to some fundie imbecile” and I do disagree with this quote. Why? Because it is understandable. Though I do understand why you see it as you do.
As for those who believe homosexuality is okay and also do not believe in God, allow me to place science and anatomy before you on this subject matter . . . in male to male sexual relationships there is much damage done to the body . . .
Looking merely at the design of the human bodies . . . when the human body is used in a way that goes against its design there are consequences . . .
I trust you will remain free thinkers and not be caught in the lies of the cultures . . .
Take care now
Charlene <