A MAD Muslim cleric, from Coberg in Australia, has caused outrage by suggesting in a video posted on the internet that there is no such thing as rape in marriage.
Self-styled Muslim cleric Samir Abu Hamza
Samir Abu Hamza said despite Australian rape laws it was impossible for a man to rape his wife even if she refused to have sex with him.
In a recorded lecture entitled The Keys to a Successful Marriage, delivered to male worshippers but now broadcast on the internet, Hamza said Islamic law allowed men to hit their wives as a last resort, but they were not to make them bleed or become bruised.
He said under Islamic law, as described in a koranic verse, it was a man’s right to demand sex from his wife whenever he felt like it.
If the husband was to ask her for a sexual relationship and she is preparing the bread on the stove she must leave it and come and respond to her husband, she must respond.
He then mocked Australia’s criminal laws, which required consent for sex to be lawful.
In this country if the husband wants to sleep with his wife and she does not want to and she hasn’t got a sickness or whatever, there is nothing wrong with her she just does not feel like it, and he ends up sleeping with her by force . . . it is known to be as rape. Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?
In a contradictory sermon, delivered in Melbourne or Sydney about 2003 but posted late last year, Mr Hamza initially instructs his listeners “don’t hit your wife”.
But he goes on to say exactly how men should hit their wives, according to his interpretation of Islamic teachings.
He said Islam cursed:
Those people who hit the animal on the face, (but) what about hitting your wife? First of all advise them [then] you beat them . . . but this is the last resort. After you have advised them [not to be disobedient] for a long, long time then you smack them, you beat them and, please, brothers, calm down, the beating the Mohammed showed is like the toothbrush that you use to brush your teeth. You are not allowed to bruise them, you are not allowed to make them bleed.
Hamza told his followers not to get carried away and become too physical with the beatings.
This is just to shape them up, shape up the woman – that is about it.
Hamza runs the Islamic Information and Services Network of Australasia on Sydney Rd, Coburg, which offers spiritual advice, prayer facilities and boxing, karate and gym classes for Muslims.
Despite concerns about his preaching being raised by female members of the Islamic community, Hamza this week stood by his comments and blamed controversy over them on a hidden Zionist agenda run by the media.
Questioned about his teachings, Hamza said a wife was allowed to be hit on the hand or leg, but “of course, not on the head”.
He said if a Muslim wife disobeyed her husband, such as continuing to go out when requested not to, she was able to be subjected to moderate physical punishment.
Hamza also reiterated his belief that women should submit to sex when husbands required it. Asked whether it was impossible for a man to rape his wife under Islamic law, Mr Hamza said either male or female partners should be able to demand and receive sex.
Although he said he could not recall exactly when he gave the lecture, Mr Hamza said it was to followers in Sydney several years ago and had only been posted on the internet in recent months. He said he would not make further comment on it.
Don’t call me, don’t bother me and please don’t call me ever again.
Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has condemned Hamza’s remarks:
Under no circumstances is sexual violence permissible or acceptable in Australia. I would call upon this Islamic cleric to publicly apologise and repudiate his remarks.
A leading Islamic cleric, Sheikh Taj Aldin al-Hilali, was replaced as Mufti of Australia in 2007 after creating a storm of protest when he described scantily-dressed women as “uncovered meat” inviting rape.
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January 23rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Crap like this is why I have never and will never date a man who is an adherent of Judaism, Christianity or Islam. All of ‘em have wide and deep veins of misogyny in them.
January 23rd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Where does one start with a person who obviously has a very, very small willy. How about: “Do the Australian authorities subsidize or give tax relief to this thug?” Anyone else notice that this teacher of the ‘religion of peace’ gives lessons in unarmed combat?
January 23rd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
A quick google hasn’t helped much does anyone know if the aussie islamic community are dis owning this scum?
January 23rd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
This is not entirely dissimilar to Stephen Green’s stance; Christian Voice objects to the laws on marital rape on biblical grounds, and wants to see them repealed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.....rital_rape
January 23rd, 2009 at 5:57 pm
The muzzies and christians still treat women as chattels – no surprise there then. Their stupid beliefs have made these Neanderthals frightened of emasculation if they treat women as equals. Rape is still rape whether inside or outside marriage.
January 23rd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Obligatory: what a nutter
Something else: Another blog i just stumbled on that could be added to the roll: http://skepchick.org/blog/
January 24th, 2009 at 1:21 am
Somebody should take this dickless wonder out and give him a real kicking. Coward.
January 24th, 2009 at 3:14 am
Some other bunch of Islamic nongs piped up and said Hamza had used the wrong koranic interpretation; of course they didn’t say what was the RIGHT interpretation, as if they know, as of course, just like the Bible, the koran is open to be interpreted any damn way these troglodytes want…
What our wonderful little Catholic boy prime minister failed to tell this rodent Islamic camel-brained dickhead is that if he continues to advocate the breaking of Australia’s law, then he can get the fuck out of the country…did he say that? no, of course not…
ps…I live in Sydney…
January 24th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Yes, Callisto, as usual a ‘democratic’ politician makes a wimpy, half-arsed criticism of religious fundamentalism. Centuries of struggle for freedom and enlightenment in the West, and conceited gits like Rudd, Blair and the rest piss it up the wall.
In the UK it was recently found that there’s a statistically high incidence of Muslim women throwing themselves under, or in front of, trains. It isn’t a national scandal, though. It’s only a few brown women, after all, and we must be ‘culturally sensitive’ to the men who beat, rape and generally drive them to suicide.
January 24th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
isn’t there some possible way that he could fall into a great white habitat. only problem the shark might throw him back as he is such distastful piece of sh..t.
January 26th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Is this 2009 or 809 ??
Wasn’t it back then that Big Mo was having sex with his 9 year old wife and beating her if she said no ???
January 28th, 2009 at 12:00 am
i live in australia since two years ago, and i haven’t heard this in the news or anything! it must be being kept pretty quiet
January 31st, 2009 at 10:59 pm
To Peter Hardman – no, no, no. Prophet Mohammed only hit Aisha because she followed him when he tried to sneak off to the graveyard (apparently according to Angel Gabriel’s prompting but he did have sex with a dead body on another occasion so it’s anybody’s guess what he wanted to do there ..) The wives used to vie with each other for their turn so they weren’t in the business of refusing him – they even got pretty mad when he was sneaking off with a slave girl on her mistress’ night.
So don’t malign the great man.