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		<title>By: trevornaty</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys

i am a mormon and i love reading anti mormon stuff so when i am bit bored i scroll around and this one is a bit interesting- thank you. Interesting as people are really hating mormons over the word marriage.
lovely stuff. Spent 20 years study mystical kabbalah stuff very intersting and powerful something you could spent a life time studying, through that knowledge found that Jospeh Smith understood things that underpin our reality and creation. everyone knows from kabbalah stems most of the understanding of magic- to create magic you have to understand how the world was created and the teachings of christianity was so twisted that Joseph could not untwist them by himself, through this reason i became a instant mormon and as long as lived my life honestly and truthfully i found i had enormous good effect on my life and all around me and when i did not i lost that power.
well what so intersting is that the spirit led me to a few books- that really opened my eyes to who control the world- how hitler was 100% sponsored by American bankers and Presidents and how Trotsky was taken
from germany(being german) brought to America and given money before being sent to lead the russian revolution. Once they gained power
they sent the Tsars money back to their western backers. I knew most
of these conspiracy stuff but the factual evidence of names dates
and brazen complacency really open my eyes that society we all so care
about is carefully managed and we like fools believe all the bull come
from our masters- the newspaper. My friends open your eyes look on the
dollar bill and see the all seeing eye of the pyramid and who will see
that you anti-mormons aren&#039;t half smart as you think you are, you are
just fodder for the masters.Imagine people supporting both side of the 
wars through finance then telling the world to hate each other and secretly they are together controlling us- they are laughing at us me friends. It makes me laugh to see democrats fighting republicans, because it does not matter who wins they are members of the same club they joined university. We are told to hate communism when it is same people who created capitalism and fascism.
If you guys really have the time and really care about mankind stop the
hatred, it does not come from your natural self it is controlled and
manipulated for greed and power and the joy of secret power.
The only true way to find ones path is through studying and meditation.
It took me 20 years to start to understand kabbalah and i gave it instantly to become surely becoming a better mormon- be sure you understand what i am saying i gave up the offers of wealth and powers by those you used that understanding for selfish gain. I love being a mormon it is the only church which encourage me to study and be wise and of course they are foolish mormons but they are only there to stop even more foolish people joining and become an even greater burden to those who are travelling this path with a true desire to learn a little bit more understanding bit by bit. I can only impart one eternal
knowledge to you lazy students the rest you have to find for yourself in this life and the next it is this- there are only 2 forces in this world(good and evil, love and hate etc)it is lie to believe there is third way(humanity). If it does have an opposite it cannot exist. If those smart enough to accept that fact then you will understand that 
if your are not on the side of good then you must be on the opposite
side. If there is an misunderstanding about colour then it is easy to 
see why people confuse the teaching about light and darkness with black and white(don&#039;t be misled or manipulated). darkness is evil, light is good nothing to do with colour but it was an excuse to justify evil slavery good mornmons missued scriptures to justify what they knew in their hearts were wrong. It was a simple misunderstanding
when you only know from one dimension(earthly) and if you are following
then there must also be an heavenly dimension which can dispel the earthly darkness.
I don&#039;t want to bore you lazy students with anymore undertanding- goodnight. 
all this enetertaining stuff you guys churn out for us who need a bit
laugh from studying heavy matters is great, great also for the church 
because when a true worshipper of god finds the church completely the
opposite of all the rubbish written about the church they join with a#
happy heart. Wake up to our really enemies and it those you put us against each other for what reason albeit a simple word such as marriage- carry on  i am love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys</p>
<p>i am a mormon and i love reading anti mormon stuff so when i am bit bored i scroll around and this one is a bit interesting- thank you. Interesting as people are really hating mormons over the word marriage.<br />
lovely stuff. Spent 20 years study mystical kabbalah stuff very intersting and powerful something you could spent a life time studying, through that knowledge found that Jospeh Smith understood things that underpin our reality and creation. everyone knows from kabbalah stems most of the understanding of magic- to create magic you have to understand how the world was created and the teachings of christianity was so twisted that Joseph could not untwist them by himself, through this reason i became a instant mormon and as long as lived my life honestly and truthfully i found i had enormous good effect on my life and all around me and when i did not i lost that power.<br />
well what so intersting is that the spirit led me to a few books- that really opened my eyes to who control the world- how hitler was 100% sponsored by American bankers and Presidents and how Trotsky was taken<br />
from germany(being german) brought to America and given money before being sent to lead the russian revolution. Once they gained power<br />
they sent the Tsars money back to their western backers. I knew most<br />
of these conspiracy stuff but the factual evidence of names dates<br />
and brazen complacency really open my eyes that society we all so care<br />
about is carefully managed and we like fools believe all the bull come<br />
from our masters- the newspaper. My friends open your eyes look on the<br />
dollar bill and see the all seeing eye of the pyramid and who will see<br />
that you anti-mormons aren&#8217;t half smart as you think you are, you are<br />
just fodder for the masters.Imagine people supporting both side of the<br />
wars through finance then telling the world to hate each other and secretly they are together controlling us- they are laughing at us me friends. It makes me laugh to see democrats fighting republicans, because it does not matter who wins they are members of the same club they joined university. We are told to hate communism when it is same people who created capitalism and fascism.<br />
If you guys really have the time and really care about mankind stop the<br />
hatred, it does not come from your natural self it is controlled and<br />
manipulated for greed and power and the joy of secret power.<br />
The only true way to find ones path is through studying and meditation.<br />
It took me 20 years to start to understand kabbalah and i gave it instantly to become surely becoming a better mormon- be sure you understand what i am saying i gave up the offers of wealth and powers by those you used that understanding for selfish gain. I love being a mormon it is the only church which encourage me to study and be wise and of course they are foolish mormons but they are only there to stop even more foolish people joining and become an even greater burden to those who are travelling this path with a true desire to learn a little bit more understanding bit by bit. I can only impart one eternal<br />
knowledge to you lazy students the rest you have to find for yourself in this life and the next it is this- there are only 2 forces in this world(good and evil, love and hate etc)it is lie to believe there is third way(humanity). If it does have an opposite it cannot exist. If those smart enough to accept that fact then you will understand that<br />
if your are not on the side of good then you must be on the opposite<br />
side. If there is an misunderstanding about colour then it is easy to<br />
see why people confuse the teaching about light and darkness with black and white(don&#8217;t be misled or manipulated). darkness is evil, light is good nothing to do with colour but it was an excuse to justify evil slavery good mornmons missued scriptures to justify what they knew in their hearts were wrong. It was a simple misunderstanding<br />
when you only know from one dimension(earthly) and if you are following<br />
then there must also be an heavenly dimension which can dispel the earthly darkness.<br />
I don&#8217;t want to bore you lazy students with anymore undertanding- goodnight.<br />
all this enetertaining stuff you guys churn out for us who need a bit<br />
laugh from studying heavy matters is great, great also for the church<br />
because when a true worshipper of god finds the church completely the<br />
opposite of all the rubbish written about the church they join with a#<br />
happy heart. Wake up to our really enemies and it those you put us against each other for what reason albeit a simple word such as marriage- carry on  i am love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/01/31/mormons-exposed-as-hypocrites-and-liars/comment-page-2/#comment-38856</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,
I cannot comment on gay practice, not being gay, but your statement &quot;there is no reason to criticize the Mormons&quot;, leaves a lot of ex mormons and nominal mormons scratching their heads in puzzlement.
Polygamy, Racism,withholding the priesthood from black males until 1978,
women treated as chattels, mere breeders whose place is in the home,
and of course the Mountain Meadows Massacre, are just a few of the items that any right minded individual can criticize the Mormon or LDS church for. Only a blind sighted TBM could make such a statement. As an ex-mormon of 30 years membership, and one who lived in SLC for a time, I and thousands of other Ex-Mormons who left after reading up the true history, not only can criticise the Mormons, but have the right to do so.
I was one of the mugs who dressed in temple garments,and made symbolic gestures about killing myself rather than reveal the so-called sacred endowments in the Temple. The Temple Ceremony changed after 1990 so if you went through the temple after that you probably did not say Pay Lay  Ale and repeat all the other mumbo jumbo. Mormonism is simply a money making cult. Ten per cent of your earnings for life.!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,<br />
I cannot comment on gay practice, not being gay, but your statement &#8220;there is no reason to criticize the Mormons&#8221;, leaves a lot of ex mormons and nominal mormons scratching their heads in puzzlement.<br />
Polygamy, Racism,withholding the priesthood from black males until 1978,<br />
women treated as chattels, mere breeders whose place is in the home,<br />
and of course the Mountain Meadows Massacre, are just a few of the items that any right minded individual can criticize the Mormon or LDS church for. Only a blind sighted TBM could make such a statement. As an ex-mormon of 30 years membership, and one who lived in SLC for a time, I and thousands of other Ex-Mormons who left after reading up the true history, not only can criticise the Mormons, but have the right to do so.<br />
I was one of the mugs who dressed in temple garments,and made symbolic gestures about killing myself rather than reveal the so-called sacred endowments in the Temple. The Temple Ceremony changed after 1990 so if you went through the temple after that you probably did not say Pay Lay  Ale and repeat all the other mumbo jumbo. Mormonism is simply a money making cult. Ten per cent of your earnings for life.!!</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/01/31/mormons-exposed-as-hypocrites-and-liars/comment-page-2/#comment-38854</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,
I cannot comment on gay practice, not being gay, but your statement &quot;there is no reason to criticize the Mormons&quot;, leaves a lot of ex mormons and nominal mormons scratching their heads in puzzlement.
Polygamy, Racism,withholding the priesthood from black males until 1978,
women treated as chattels, mere breeders whose place is in the home,
and of course the Mountain Meadows Massacre, are just a few of the items that any right minded individual can criticize the Mormon or LDS church for. Only a blind sighted TBM could make such a statement. For those who do not know a TBM means true blooded mormon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,<br />
I cannot comment on gay practice, not being gay, but your statement &#8220;there is no reason to criticize the Mormons&#8221;, leaves a lot of ex mormons and nominal mormons scratching their heads in puzzlement.<br />
Polygamy, Racism,withholding the priesthood from black males until 1978,<br />
women treated as chattels, mere breeders whose place is in the home,<br />
and of course the Mountain Meadows Massacre, are just a few of the items that any right minded individual can criticize the Mormon or LDS church for. Only a blind sighted TBM could make such a statement. For those who do not know a TBM means true blooded mormon.</p>
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		<title>By: JOHN</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/01/31/mormons-exposed-as-hypocrites-and-liars/comment-page-1/#comment-38578</link>
		<dc:creator>JOHN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GAY PRACTICE IS STUPID AND THERE IS NO REASON TO CRITICIZE THE MORMONS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GAY PRACTICE IS STUPID AND THERE IS NO REASON TO CRITICIZE THE MORMONS</p>
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		<title>By: verl</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/01/31/mormons-exposed-as-hypocrites-and-liars/comment-page-1/#comment-36193</link>
		<dc:creator>verl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been all over the world and I think mormons are the most prejudice group of hipocrites any where. Especially in SLC,Utah. There is no separation between church and state in Utah.

I feel sorry for any mormons that aren&#039;t white. They are probably shining the bishops shoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been all over the world and I think mormons are the most prejudice group of hipocrites any where. Especially in SLC,Utah. There is no separation between church and state in Utah.</p>
<p>I feel sorry for any mormons that aren&#8217;t white. They are probably shining the bishops shoes.</p>
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		<title>By: sun</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/01/31/mormons-exposed-as-hypocrites-and-liars/comment-page-1/#comment-35836</link>
		<dc:creator>sun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 07:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same story different day....History which can easily be found about the early church still reveals Joey Smith did in fact take young women as his wives, brought them into his home and had relations with them. His first wife kicked him to the curb......Those so called golden plates he told everyone he found would have weighed 300# and he a young boy carried them under his coat home, yeah RIGHT!! Where are those plates now, hmmmmm, oh yeah they were taken back up to heaven. Are you freakin kidding me, you base an entire religion on this nonsense. How easily people are duped into believing this stuff in  order to belong to a club like the mormons. I guess it&#039;s just human nature to suspend rationality for a false sense of security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same story different day&#8230;.History which can easily be found about the early church still reveals Joey Smith did in fact take young women as his wives, brought them into his home and had relations with them. His first wife kicked him to the curb&#8230;&#8230;Those so called golden plates he told everyone he found would have weighed 300# and he a young boy carried them under his coat home, yeah RIGHT!! Where are those plates now, hmmmmm, oh yeah they were taken back up to heaven. Are you freakin kidding me, you base an entire religion on this nonsense. How easily people are duped into believing this stuff in  order to belong to a club like the mormons. I guess it&#8217;s just human nature to suspend rationality for a false sense of security.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/01/31/mormons-exposed-as-hypocrites-and-liars/comment-page-1/#comment-34487</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 22:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the mormons keep at me, ad gg on like me a kid, am 26 yares old, there say we all worship the some god, we not at all. ad there keep on tell 2 pray i see if the book mormon is. am sorry its not true at all, if i pray 2 my he mig am got, ad drink wine u can drink, its not worry 2 drink it at all, the doc said wine iz gd 4 u.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the mormons keep at me, ad gg on like me a kid, am 26 yares old, there say we all worship the some god, we not at all. ad there keep on tell 2 pray i see if the book mormon is. am sorry its not true at all, if i pray 2 my he mig am got, ad drink wine u can drink, its not worry 2 drink it at all, the doc said wine iz gd 4 u.</p>
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		<title>By: Purba Negoro</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/01/31/mormons-exposed-as-hypocrites-and-liars/comment-page-1/#comment-32620</link>
		<dc:creator>Purba Negoro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are still awaiting an Atheist mother Theresa or the Muslim equivalent, Dr Muhammed Yunus founder of Grameen micro-credit- a bank nearly 95% run by women for women, and lifted millions permanently out of eternal despair, poverty and destiution- and all without USURY.
Not bad for a Muslim.
PS- when will the US have a female President- most nations with large Muslim populations already have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are still awaiting an Atheist mother Theresa or the Muslim equivalent, Dr Muhammed Yunus founder of Grameen micro-credit- a bank nearly 95% run by women for women, and lifted millions permanently out of eternal despair, poverty and destiution- and all without USURY.<br />
Not bad for a Muslim.<br />
PS- when will the US have a female President- most nations with large Muslim populations already have.</p>
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		<title>By: anne</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/01/31/mormons-exposed-as-hypocrites-and-liars/comment-page-1/#comment-32181</link>
		<dc:creator>anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel so sad for you &quot;latter day saint&quot; blogger. I know you think that what you have written about polygamy is true because I used to be you. Open your heart read something that is not written by someone that is a member of the church. It is devastating I know, but you have NO idea about the true history. Study- what is the harm in that? You are making an uniformed opinion. Your testimony is based on an uniformed opinion. That is what all LDS do because we were only given one side of the story! The truth is out there, its up to you. Do you want the red pill or the blue pill??? You choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel so sad for you &#8220;latter day saint&#8221; blogger. I know you think that what you have written about polygamy is true because I used to be you. Open your heart read something that is not written by someone that is a member of the church. It is devastating I know, but you have NO idea about the true history. Study- what is the harm in that? You are making an uniformed opinion. Your testimony is based on an uniformed opinion. That is what all LDS do because we were only given one side of the story! The truth is out there, its up to you. Do you want the red pill or the blue pill??? You choose.</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Lowes</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/01/31/mormons-exposed-as-hypocrites-and-liars/comment-page-1/#comment-31364</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Lowes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 12:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an ex-mormon I beg all that might be considering joining to think long 
and hard before doing so. You will learn that God told Joseph Smith that all other churches are an abomination in my sight. So from the moment that you are faced with that, you realise that Mormons/LDS have little if
any real respect for other belief systems.

When I joined the church, I knew nothing of Polygamy or Plural Marriage as the LDS prefer to call it. When you do find out, you are told like some of the posters above, that it occured because men had died in wars and women needed the protection of a family, all well and good, but then
if you look up the Fanny Alger story on the Internet you will see that a little girl of barely 16 was taken as Joseph Smith&#039;s first plural wife.
That he had sex with her, and his many other wives.
True You do not have to pay tithing, however, if you do not pay, you will not get a temple reccommend, an access to the Secret endowments in the LDS Temple. Under Mormonism the rules are Total Obedience or Eternal Damnation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an ex-mormon I beg all that might be considering joining to think long<br />
and hard before doing so. You will learn that God told Joseph Smith that all other churches are an abomination in my sight. So from the moment that you are faced with that, you realise that Mormons/LDS have little if<br />
any real respect for other belief systems.</p>
<p>When I joined the church, I knew nothing of Polygamy or Plural Marriage as the LDS prefer to call it. When you do find out, you are told like some of the posters above, that it occured because men had died in wars and women needed the protection of a family, all well and good, but then<br />
if you look up the Fanny Alger story on the Internet you will see that a little girl of barely 16 was taken as Joseph Smith&#8217;s first plural wife.<br />
That he had sex with her, and his many other wives.<br />
True You do not have to pay tithing, however, if you do not pay, you will not get a temple reccommend, an access to the Secret endowments in the LDS Temple. Under Mormonism the rules are Total Obedience or Eternal Damnation.</p>
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