I agree with you entirely. The point I was making about the time of the accident and whether or not the phone was in use was, how do we know to that degree of accuracy when the crash happened. Are there witnesses to say that the accident took place at a specific time and not 2mins earlier or later? Steve states that the last text was sent 2-3mins before the accident. Unless there were independant witnesses or some other reliable method of determining the EXACT time of the accident within a minute, we only have ahmeds testimony. Still, he wouldn’t lie. Would he? What does it mater. The dead guy was obviously only an infidel.

I accept what you are saying though about his phone possibly not transmitting at the alleged time of the accident. What was the last text though. Was it incoming or outgoing? He may have been reading a reply or, as you suggest, typing one.

Either way, Steves suggestion that it was the victims fault because he was over the limit, had crashed his car and then went back for his phone is just not on as far as I’m concerned. The guy being over the limit (if this was the case) and crashing his car is completely irrelevant. This does not make him invisible, even, as Steve pointed out, in the dark. If ahmed had been paying attention, this would have been avoided.

Actually, if the guy had been invisible, that might have helped since ahmed and his type seem to like giving lots of attention to invisible things.

If my car runs into your rear bumper at the very least it’s driving without due care and attention.

When my business was going through a bad patch in the mid 90′s I took a weekend job in telesales flogging car insurance. I used to hear so many sob stories from people that had been prosecuted for ploughing into the car in front. I had little sympathy them. They should not chat to passengers, smoke, shout at their kids or USE A MOBY. At the flipside of their stories were victims.

Ahmeds’ phone may not have have been transmitting at the time of the crash so there is no log at the phone company to incriminate him.

Bet he was composing a text thought.

How is it possible to determine the time of the accident to that degree of accuracy? Does ahmeds car not have lights? Was he not able to see a crashed car on the road because it was dark?

At the very least, he not paying attention. The chances are though, he was texting whilst driving. There are no excuses. He killed someone by careless or reckless driving and should have been sentenced accordingly.

I notice you don’t jump to the defence of the guy who was killed. You are basically blaming him. What is so wrong with him going to get his mobile phone? Since he was killed, how do you know what he did, when and why?

You’re right, he may be kicked out of the Labour Party but that doesn’t affect his peerage. He may even be prevented from sitting in the Upper Chamber but he shall always be Lord Ahmed.

Pity really. I’m sure to be called lord anything is an advantage. Even Lord Vader.

The ruling is, anyone who serves time in the nick, is automatically kicked out of the labour party.

#Steve#
Your comment makes no sense at all, are you saying the guy commited suicide because he went back for his phone?
The Muslim bigot should have got 10 years.

I want to first point out i) I’m not a racist and ii) I don’t have a BNP Card and iii) I’m English but escaped from the UK.

He should have got ten years at least and should be banned from the Lords. He’s a criminal who killed someone by reckless driving and any normal Englishperson (ie not a muslim with 10000 of his screaming rug-butters behind him and a contributor to Labour party funds) would have got a bigger fine and done more time. This is a disgrace.

Now for the rest..his bigoted anti-gay sharia-focused anti-free speach antics… lets just hope that for those faults of his he has to share a cell with someone from the BNP ..

Look at perjurer (Lord) Jeffrey Archer for example.