FOR anyone who’s ever suspected that that Cardinal Cormac Murphy O’Connor was off his trolley, here’s the proof:
By the way, the crazy cardinal looks set to be elevated to the House of Lords. Richard West has set up a petition in the hope of persuading Downing Street NOT to make O’Connor a peer. Please add you name to the petition here. So far over 2,500 people have signed it.
The petition reads:
It is reported that the Government is considering bestowing a peerage on Cardinal Cormac Murphy O’Connor, the Archbishop of Westminster and head of the Roman Catholic Church in England. In light of the ‘paedophile priest’ scandals in his Church’s recent past and his appalling leadership failures in dealing with these matters, Murphy O’Connor has demonstrated himself to be unfit to take any place in Parliament and should NOT be given such a reward
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May 15th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Have a look at this: http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/05/12/joy/ – spooky or what?
May 15th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
" – spooky or what?"
No. Just reasonable!
I have no doubt that Paddy Murphy O'Carbuncle is mentally ill, but should that preclude him from entry to the House of Lords. After all we have the pleasure of being represented by Lord Ahmed.
Perhaps we should get all of our religious fucktwits in one place and then weld the door shut.
Lock the fuckers up where they can do no more harm. That's what I say.
May 15th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
When Alzheimer's disease strikes, these are the results
May 16th, 2009 at 5:14 am
just remember, not having an imaginary friend makes you less human than not taking part in humanity's natural drive to reproduce
May 16th, 2009 at 7:09 am
Cardinal Comic Murphy O`Connor – the poor man`s Frank Carson: "It`s the way I yell `em"!!
May 16th, 2009 at 8:31 am
I didn't realise that to be "fully human" I too had to be stricken with god disease and be a bigoted tosser as well.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Well, this post will probably be deleted as well, but, I do not completely disagree with the the fundie. The origin of religion came from the question in all our minds, "why am I here?", and the fakers and magicians that pretended to have the answer. Otherwise, religion would have never existed.
Of course, there is nothing holy, or closer to god about the ancient past, but the fact that the Egyptians built the pyramids, and the Olmecs built those perfect stone walls shows that our ancestors were smart sob's. And despite their ridiculous ideas about gods and heros, that same question is born into every modern human, "why am I here?"
Atheists say it's random accident. I say that freethinkers admit that, "I dont know".
NL
May 16th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Given this man's history of accepting and abetting paedophilia, I'm glad this man regards me as something different!
May 16th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
I loved Jetson's reply to this at WWGHA:
"No, atheists aren't fully human, but embryos are!"
May 16th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Name me one atheist who says we got here by random accident. I certainly wouldn't subscribe to such a view, rather I think we got here via natural processes. If you're interested in the origins of religion though, you may like:
Why We Believe in Gods – Andy Thomson – American Atheists 09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iMmvu9eMrg
and
A Darwinian Perspective on Religions: Past, Present and Future
Dan Dennett
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCgUJdsliEM
Enjoy!
May 16th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
I think we should all take note of the kind of people who rise to positions of power within the Catholic Church.
On the subject of not being fully human, I think the point is that those who still have an imaginary daddy are not fully grown up. Children believe in fairy tales adults are those who have grown out of such beliefs. Of course there are some that believe that a girl becomes a woman and a boy becomes a man when they lose their virginity, he doesn't score there either presumably.
May 16th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
The archbishop is saying those who exclude the transcendent from their experiences are excluding a part of the human condition. What he's referring to is not a belief, but a set of subjective experiences, just as emotions are a set of subjective experiences. You would assert that a person who cannot feel emotions or who deliberately blocks them out is not fully human, and you would consider that a reasonable assertion. Well, he's asserting something similar.
Although I disagree with him ultimately, I think atheists misunderstand his position.
May 16th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
But the archbishop *is* fully a bigot.
May 17th, 2009 at 6:24 am
thanks for the smarmy lessons, Butters, but no, atheists haven't misunderstood what this man said. He said that anyone who doesn't view the world in the same way he does, has something wrong with them; that they are less than human if they do not find reality falsified by ridiculous myths, or believe there are invisible men living in the sky. This is the same kind of thinking that leads to persecutions and righteous attacks against 'the other' – atheists being 'the other.'. The same kind of thinking that saw centuries of persecutions against the Jews, who weren't quite human, were they? so that makes it ok to persecute them. This man is a bigot and a fool, and one step away from an inquisitor. 'transcendent' my arse…
May 17th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Well said Callisto! If my memory serves me right, there was another greatly revered leader in fairly recent times who preached that certain groups were "less than human" (Jews, Slavs, homosexuals, the mentally ill, etc) – his name`s right on the tip of my tongue!!
May 17th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
PS He received support in his fascist views from the Roman Catholic church as well – hahaha!!!
May 17th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
So good ol' O'Connor is fully human then? Is that an admission that he has had his leg over? (Quireboys do not count!)
May 17th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
It is very clear from listening to the video that the Cardinal is not saying that atheists are sub human. Anyone who claims otherwise is taking his statement out of context. The Cardinal simply believes that atheists are leaving out a major part of what it is to be human. This is not that different than if you or I said that to live one's life without rational thought is to not be "fully human."
May 18th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Thank you for posting my humble little video on this august site. When I heard the Cardinal's memorable utterance that Sunday morning in March I was still in bed. I laughed so much I nearly fell out.
And thanks to everybody for the comments here and on Youtube.
Rosemarie aka rosmarinusofficialis
May 18th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
I don't think the question, "why am I here?" is necessarily born into every modern human. Why should I ask myself that pointless question? I just am and I was not put here for a purpose.
May 18th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Great to hear this from a 'man' of the cloth; so those Irish priests who couldn't keep their hands to themselves, but diddled little children, are actually more fully human than I am?
May 19th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Shouldn''t Cormack McNutter be worrying about the reports from Ireland on the activities of the Sisters of Mercy, Christian Brothers etc. He is clinically crazy. Well fed, though, and did a pretty good job getting Blairie to channel our taxes into his Faith Fuck-Up Schools.
Mad as a Hatter. Needs help. Straight jacket for a start.
May 19th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
The indoctrination of children with political and religious ideas is just another form of child abuse. There are TWO reports due out soon about child abuse in Catholic institutions, and it will be very interesting to see what they say – the truth, or further cover-up?
May 19th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
My reply to your comment has disappeared again Broga, so I will repeat it. I said that the indoctrination of children with political and religious ideas is just another form of child abuse. There are TWO reports imminent on the abuse of children in RC institutions, and I understand that they are not going to be pleasant reading for "The Card"! Perhaps this throws some light on his unprecedented and hitherto unexplained retirement from his post, as he would undoubtedly have been tipped off as to what they contain. I wonder though whether they will scupper his chances of a peerage, however damning they are! (PS It is interesting to note that although he may well sit in The House of Lords in the near future, the Pope only allows Anglicans as "observers" in Rome!!)
May 20th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Barriejohn: Many thanks. I appreciate you taking the trouble to repeat your comments. The torture over many years of these children is far, far worse than we could have imagined now the report has appeared – 2.30pm today. Not the best of timing for Cormack McNutter and probably the best argument so far against his god being omniscient. Seems Cormack McShifty wasn't even given a hint of what was to come or he might have got himself into the Lords a bit earlier. If you do not have a very strong stomach that report is going to get to you. These evil, unrepentant scum at still welcome on Thought for the Day: no place there for sceptics.
May 26th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
The poor man. One can't expect much more from a Catholic. They have an imaginary man in their head & need to keep creating some sort of arguement about it, in the hope they can con others into believing it too. It's obvious this man needs to get a normal life & one of his own.