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	<title>Comments on: ‘We did not know that child abuse was a crime,’ says retired Catholic archbishop</title>
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		<title>By: JJC</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/05/21/%e2%80%98we-did-not-know-that-child-abuse-was-a-crime%e2%80%99-says-retired-catholic-archbishop/comment-page-1/#comment-22353</link>
		<dc:creator>JJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a survivor of catholic school atrocities myself, all I can say is they will be judged by the God they claimed to represent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a survivor of catholic school atrocities myself, all I can say is they will be judged by the God they claimed to represent.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael </title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/05/21/%e2%80%98we-did-not-know-that-child-abuse-was-a-crime%e2%80%99-says-retired-catholic-archbishop/comment-page-1/#comment-17526</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/05/21/%e2%80%98we-did-not-know-that-child-abuse-was-a-crime%e2%80%99-says-retired-catholic-archbishop/comment-page-1/#comment-17525</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uh yes it does </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uh yes it does</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 07:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>went to catholic lectures adelaide south australia  mon aitken regularly  playing with zipper in front of everyone  i said to women do you see it  her reply yes  but  it&#039;s not my job to tell him not too  just a small taste of  life in the church  can not  recommend church to anyone  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>went to catholic lectures adelaide south australia  mon aitken regularly  playing with zipper in front of everyone  i said to women do you see it  her reply yes  but  it&#039;s not my job to tell him not too  just a small taste of  life in the church  can not  recommend church to anyone</p>
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		<title>By: farmgirl</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/05/21/%e2%80%98we-did-not-know-that-child-abuse-was-a-crime%e2%80%99-says-retired-catholic-archbishop/comment-page-1/#comment-17287</link>
		<dc:creator>farmgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An agnostic in training, I am shocked and saddened by the anger and vitriol contained in the preceding posts.  A Christian institution &#039;survivor&#039; I have little understanding of the anger that is being directed at Christianity.  As a counselor of sexual offenders, I wholly understand the revulsion  towards the abuse of our children. 
However, it is the likely truth that the former Archbishop did not understand that the moral evil he cites was a criminal act as no such understanding existed in law until recently.  This is a shameful reflection on society as a whole, and cannot be dumped solely on the front steps of the catholic church or upon xtian institutions. 
 
Canadian law held some protection as early as 1890 for female children under the age of 12, and only in regards to sexual intercourse.  Although the protection for female children was strengthened in 1978, it was not until the introduction of Bill C-15, in 1988 that protection was extended to boys and that other forms of sexual exploitation and touching were included.  Shameful, yes.  Does the blame though lie with the Catholic church, or the aforementioned, disgraced Father? 
 
A history of the more generalized abuse of children, as is referred to above, is no more enlightened.   
 
The following link outlines some of Canada&#039;s history in terms of laws protecting children from sexual abuse.:  
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/library/PRBpubs/prb993-e.htm#A.%20Early%20Criminal%20Code%20Offences(txt)&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/library/PRBpubs...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
For a more general discussion of child abuse history, this article was excellent: 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://members.shaw.ca/pdg/the_history_of_child_abuse.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://members.shaw.ca/pdg/the_history_of_child_a...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An agnostic in training, I am shocked and saddened by the anger and vitriol contained in the preceding posts.  A Christian institution &#039;survivor&#039; I have little understanding of the anger that is being directed at Christianity.  As a counselor of sexual offenders, I wholly understand the revulsion  towards the abuse of our children.<br />
However, it is the likely truth that the former Archbishop did not understand that the moral evil he cites was a criminal act as no such understanding existed in law until recently.  This is a shameful reflection on society as a whole, and cannot be dumped solely on the front steps of the catholic church or upon xtian institutions. </p>
<p>Canadian law held some protection as early as 1890 for female children under the age of 12, and only in regards to sexual intercourse.  Although the protection for female children was strengthened in 1978, it was not until the introduction of Bill C-15, in 1988 that protection was extended to boys and that other forms of sexual exploitation and touching were included.  Shameful, yes.  Does the blame though lie with the Catholic church, or the aforementioned, disgraced Father? </p>
<p>A history of the more generalized abuse of children, as is referred to above, is no more enlightened.   </p>
<p>The following link outlines some of Canada&#039;s history in terms of laws protecting children from sexual abuse.:<br />
<a href="http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/library/PRBpubs/prb993-e.htm#A.%20Early%20Criminal%20Code%20Offences(txt)" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/library/PRBpubs.." rel="nofollow">http://www.parl.gc.ca/informat...../PRBpubs..</a>. </p>
<p>For a more general discussion of child abuse history, this article was excellent:<br />
<a href="http://members.shaw.ca/pdg/the_history_of_child_abuse.html" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://members.shaw.ca/pdg/the_history_of_child_a.." rel="nofollow">http://members.shaw.ca/pdg/the....._child_a..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-06-05 &#171; boblog</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/05/21/%e2%80%98we-did-not-know-that-child-abuse-was-a-crime%e2%80%99-says-retired-catholic-archbishop/comment-page-1/#comment-17277</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2009-06-05 &#171; boblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ‘We did not know that child abuse was a crime,’ says retired Catholic archbishop YESTERDAY it was the damning report on abuse of children by Catholic institutions in Ireland. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ‘We did not know that child abuse was a crime,’ says retired Catholic archbishop YESTERDAY it was the damning report on abuse of children by Catholic institutions in Ireland. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David McKeegan</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/05/21/%e2%80%98we-did-not-know-that-child-abuse-was-a-crime%e2%80%99-says-retired-catholic-archbishop/comment-page-1/#comment-17214</link>
		<dc:creator>David McKeegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelly - do you have any evidence for the above claims?  
 
Let&#039;s see it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly &#8211; do you have any evidence for the above claims?  </p>
<p>Let&#039;s see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/05/21/%e2%80%98we-did-not-know-that-child-abuse-was-a-crime%e2%80%99-says-retired-catholic-archbishop/comment-page-1/#comment-17213</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the stats on policemen and fireman - it&#039;s the same.  And you thought that they were such nice guys.  Also, there are the lesser published accounts on teachers (much higher percentage rates than in the Catholic Church) abusing children.  These teachers have been swapped from school district to school districts by principles and school superintendents fearing lawsuits - thereby giving favorable reviews.  Go after them kpd because they&#039;re right in your neighborhood!!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the stats on policemen and fireman &#8211; it&#039;s the same.  And you thought that they were such nice guys.  Also, there are the lesser published accounts on teachers (much higher percentage rates than in the Catholic Church) abusing children.  These teachers have been swapped from school district to school districts by principles and school superintendents fearing lawsuits &#8211; thereby giving favorable reviews.  Go after them kpd because they&#039;re right in your neighborhood!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: JSutton</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/05/21/%e2%80%98we-did-not-know-that-child-abuse-was-a-crime%e2%80%99-says-retired-catholic-archbishop/comment-page-1/#comment-17054</link>
		<dc:creator>JSutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 14:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Naive.&quot;  What a lovely way to portray the mindset of a child abuser.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Naive.&quot;  What a lovely way to portray the mindset of a child abuser.</p>
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		<title>By: Yvete Doll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yvete Doll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 23:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> 
&quot;who also failed in their responsibility and didn&#039;t want to &quot;rock the boat&quot; by pursuing charges at the time either. &quot; 
 
Same problem today, why can&#039;t the 2,000 teachers referred to List 99 in 2005 be named? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;who also failed in their responsibility and didn&#039;t want to &quot;rock the boat&quot; by pursuing charges at the time either. &quot; </p>
<p>Same problem today, why can&#039;t the 2,000 teachers referred to List 99 in 2005 be named?</p>
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