Option 1 – Agreed. I just have the feeling that this is better achieved by substantive arguments that don't contain insults.

Option 2 – Are you thick or something? Stupid dumb-ass.

Any preferences, anyone? Which is going to convince you third-party-ites best?

(Entirely rhetorical, by the way, William. No offence intended.)

I understand that as a xtian, it is imperative that you pretend. You pretend there is an invisible man living in the sky, reading all your thoughts. You pretend that science is nonsense and that the creation story has more clout. You pretend that a little red man with horns and a pitchfork is lurking around every corner, eager to lead us all off the path to enlightenment, when in fact religion does this instead. Science will bring you enlightenment. Religion will keep you in the dark.

What's it got to do with the point? I was merely pointing out what a moron you are. You come in here quoting scripture to people who find all that stuff sometimes hilarious and other times downright vile but never impressive. This is about as much use as a chocolate fireguard. When will you religiots learn that we don't give a shit about what jesus is suppposed to have said, or what `power` your imaginary friend wields. WE DON'T BELIEVE A WORD OF IT!!! You can spout scripture and demand that we repent till your blue in the face, but we'll still be laughing at you.

Now grow up and try reality for a change. It's really quite…enlightening.

Godless not gormless

I agree that alternative viewpoints should be welcome, but I'm sure you yourself find it more than irritating when someones 'alternative viewpoint' is just shite regurgitated from the bible. We might as well be arguing with someone about whether or not the earth is flat. He's quoting us stuff from the same source as that little gem and he also uses the religiot's favourite method of debate – just ignore what everyone says then pretend they didn't or were not able to respond to your points and claim you won the argument.

That kind of alternative viewpoint is not at all welcome as far as I'm concerned.

Now he'll run away of course and probably brag to all the barren minded xtians he knows about how he took on all us Atheists and slapped us down. Xtians and other religiots are great at hiding ffom the truth.

this guy makes a good argument, but maybe you are right barrie – tanks are the way forwards but then I feel that to be safe I'd want an attack helicopter.

I may be wrong, but at least the Americans are holding the line on civil liberties by allowing some folk to own miniguns, for duck hunting and home defence you understand – when will we ever see such clarity of thought in the UK?