Comments on: You’d better take Ken Ham’s â€˜Palace of Lies’ seriously or face instant eviction

By: Buffy

Buffy — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:48:06 +0000

So why is it that when you guys are preaching hateful things towards LGBT people at their events and spewing obnoxious things toward atheists everywhere you're "preaching the Bible" and "expressing you're deeply held religious beliefs"? If anybody objects they're "persecuting" you. Yet if atheists or others speak their minds and point out, say, scientific facts or the way that displays in a museum are blatantly inaccurate it is "mocking" and they have to be silenced or kicked out? Do you not see the double standard? Why is it Christians insist on saying and doing whatever they want yet refuse others the same privilege/right?

By: valdemar

valdemar — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:07:54 +0000

I'd be interested to see an example of a creationist being thrown out of a proper museum for spouting religious trash and mocking real science. Gimme just one example, Mr Estes?

The real problem with creationists is that they hate freedom of thought. That's what made them so nervous and aggressive – a group of intelligent adults who weren't there to have their unthinking prejudices reinforced. It's good to see Americans like PZ Myers standing up for freedom and truth.

By: William Harwood

William Harwood — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:56:23 +0000

An adult who still has an imaginary friend should hurry back to Bellvue before they give his bed away. He should also give serious consideration to a brain exchange with a cabbage — if he can find a cabbage willing to make the sacrifice.
What kind of masochist keeps posting proof of his ignorance to a site populated by people who recognize that he is dangerously, criminally, certifiably braindead?

By: Stuart H.

Stuart H. — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:31:14 +0000

I don't get the staff's problem with folk laughing at the exhibits. If someone pays to come in, it's their business how they react to the 'exhibits'.
First lesson of marketing, the customer is always right. For a religious tradition built on snakeoil merchants, insurance agents and others who persuade the gullible public to buy rubbish that nobody needs and doesn't work, they're incredibly poorly informed about their own history – never mind the plastic dinosaurs.
After all, this is only a museum in the 18th century sense of the word – ie. a freakshow. If they want to pretend it's a place of education and enlightenment, not a fairground sideshow, they should prove it by offering free entrance to all on the basis that they have something valuable to teach. They can easily beg the money from the deluded herds who attend their megachurches (and their tax-avoiding pastors). Considering they seem to regard anything the US government did which doesn't line their pockets as the work of Satan I'd have thought they would be only too glad to get along without public subsidy or turning their temple into a shopping mall.

By: shargraves

shargraves — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 09:04:52 +0000

Tom – I read your blog and Ken's too – all this stress over "Mocking" – apart from being hilarious – The whole venture is staggeringly stupid – intellectually dishonest and morally reprehensible – and after reading your hardtruth blog, it seems that you are a just an ignorant bonehead.

Here's The HardTruth
You are insecure about being so intellectually inferior, and are simply afraid to face up to rationality – leading to a dishonest and frankly appalling stance of believing infantile stories over verifiable evidence. I assume all this sick rubbish floating around behind your cold dead eyes, is left over from a childhood upbringing where you were systematically lied to.

Get this though – It is OK to fear death.

By: jenlillith

jenlillith — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 07:27:49 +0000

Aw. I thought I'd done well since I stuck out enough for them to bother asking if I go to college and, upon my confirming that I did, them telling me to keep an open mind.

Wrote up the whole terrible experience here. It's not funny or silly–many of the sentiments displayed in there break my humanist heart. And it's awful to see the kids taking it in–you see brainwashing as it's happening. As I said, terrible.

By: MrSean

MrSean — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:36:16 +0000

I suspected as much, PZ's blog attracts those cultish types. He went there gagging to be oppressed by a borderline retarded disneyland staff just so he could whine about it and pretend to have a Tianamen Square moment with security (presumably brainwashed teens dressed like christian dinosaurs with wakie talkies). Low hanging fruit. We all knew it would happen. I still enjoy his blog though, its like poking at a sore tooth!

By: Tom Estes

Tom Estes — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 22:58:50 +0000

Barry, they were making fun of it the whole time. Some, including PZ, were very quiet with their criticisms, and some were not. I stood by several that were openly mocking everything they saw. Mark Looy gave them a lot of space on the rules, and I assure this guy wasn't pulled aside unless he was out of line.

By: gsw

gsw — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:35:36 +0000

Ah, but did they return his entrance money when they decided he was not worthy?