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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;We love you, America &#8211; and we want your children for Islam&#8217; says NY imam</title>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Elijah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muhammad Elijah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never tire of quoting Susan B. Anthony in matters such as this: 

&quot;I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. &quot;:

It&#039;s not the case with Islam because it would be tantamount to the most grevious sin in Islam-that of Shirk, that is, to deify anyone else apart from Allah. To follow your own desires is to deify your Hawa besides Allah.

Allah says,&quot;Araayta mani ittakhatha ilahahu HAWAhu:Hast thou ever considered [the kind of man] who makes his own desires his deity?&quot;
Aayah 43
Soorah Al-Furqan[The Standard] 
http://honorablequran.com/25.htm

 Lo! Allah forgiveth not that a partner should be ascribed unto Him. although He forgives any lesser sin unto whomever He wills. Whoso ascribeth partners to Allah, he hath indeed invented a tremendous sin. 
Aayah 48
Soorah An-Nisaa[The Women]
http://honorablequran.com/4.htm

One of the fundamental principles of Fiqh:the science of legislation or jurisprudence in Islam, is that every human being can know and verify what Allah wants. Fiqh literally means Understanding or Insight.
Rasoolullaah(s.a.a.w.s.) had said,&quot;Man yuridillaahu bihi KHAIRan yuFaQqiH-hu fi d-DEEN&quot;

When Allah wants/wills/intends Khair(Good)for someone, He makes him understand/bestows him with an understanding/insight or Fiqh in Deen(religion)

It should be noted that what Deen means to a Muslim is different from what religion stands for in Western societies, and this concept explains the spiritual survival of Islam despite the Godless onslaught that emerged in Christendom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never tire of quoting Susan B. Anthony in matters such as this: </p>
<p>&#8220;I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. &#8220;:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the case with Islam because it would be tantamount to the most grevious sin in Islam-that of Shirk, that is, to deify anyone else apart from Allah. To follow your own desires is to deify your Hawa besides Allah.</p>
<p>Allah says,&#8221;Araayta mani ittakhatha ilahahu HAWAhu:Hast thou ever considered [the kind of man] who makes his own desires his deity?&#8221;<br />
Aayah 43<br />
Soorah Al-Furqan[The Standard]<br />
<a href="http://honorablequran.com/25.htm" rel="nofollow">http://honorablequran.com/25.htm</a></p>
<p> Lo! Allah forgiveth not that a partner should be ascribed unto Him. although He forgives any lesser sin unto whomever He wills. Whoso ascribeth partners to Allah, he hath indeed invented a tremendous sin.<br />
Aayah 48<br />
Soorah An-Nisaa[The Women]<br />
<a href="http://honorablequran.com/4.htm" rel="nofollow">http://honorablequran.com/4.htm</a></p>
<p>One of the fundamental principles of Fiqh:the science of legislation or jurisprudence in Islam, is that every human being can know and verify what Allah wants. Fiqh literally means Understanding or Insight.<br />
Rasoolullaah(s.a.a.w.s.) had said,&#8221;Man yuridillaahu bihi KHAIRan yuFaQqiH-hu fi d-DEEN&#8221;</p>
<p>When Allah wants/wills/intends Khair(Good)for someone, He makes him understand/bestows him with an understanding/insight or Fiqh in Deen(religion)</p>
<p>It should be noted that what Deen means to a Muslim is different from what religion stands for in Western societies, and this concept explains the spiritual survival of Islam despite the Godless onslaught that emerged in Christendom.</p>
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		<title>By: abdullah</title>
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		<dc:creator>abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear brothers I was able to Read some of what is written in your comments  
What I can say is. 
Search for the truth to rid yourself of all doubts, we Muslims are not enemies, but denied it from hostile to Islam. America is a peaceful people, but I see from your government are and where is the freedom which they gave you.  
Is it freedom or destruction?  
The simple phrase that deserves attention  
American people are the tools used by some religions to fight Islam  
But their fate will not Inalo </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear brothers I was able to Read some of what is written in your comments<br />
What I can say is.<br />
Search for the truth to rid yourself of all doubts, we Muslims are not enemies, but denied it from hostile to Islam. America is a peaceful people, but I see from your government are and where is the freedom which they gave you.<br />
Is it freedom or destruction?<br />
The simple phrase that deserves attention<br />
American people are the tools used by some religions to fight Islam<br />
But their fate will not Inalo</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeRic</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeRic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in 1883 Edwin Abbott wrote &#039;Flatland&#039;.  He uses it to give an understanding of contiguous geometric worlds, each existing at a  higher level of dimensions.  Today &#039;Techie Worlds&#039; is available.  Written for people with a mechanistic understanding of our world, it looks at ridiculous Christian teachings, such as Trinity, soul, resurrection and judgment.  In so doing, &#039;Techie Worlds&#039; follows science&#039;s lead in examining phenomena in the light of theory.   Contiguous dimensional worlds provide a logical, mechanical explanation for those phenomena.    
So an intelligent, intellectually honest and open-minded person has excellent reason to hold religious views.  In the light of Pascal&#039;s wager, people would be foolish to deny Christian teaching or to hold Moslem or pagan beliefs. 
&#039;Techie Worlds, Visible &amp; Invisible&#039; is available from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com.&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.amazon.com.&lt;/a&gt; 
 
GeorgeRic </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in 1883 Edwin Abbott wrote &#039;Flatland&#039;.  He uses it to give an understanding of contiguous geometric worlds, each existing at a  higher level of dimensions.  Today &#039;Techie Worlds&#039; is available.  Written for people with a mechanistic understanding of our world, it looks at ridiculous Christian teachings, such as Trinity, soul, resurrection and judgment.  In so doing, &#039;Techie Worlds&#039; follows science&#039;s lead in examining phenomena in the light of theory.   Contiguous dimensional worlds provide a logical, mechanical explanation for those phenomena.<br />
So an intelligent, intellectually honest and open-minded person has excellent reason to hold religious views.  In the light of Pascal&#039;s wager, people would be foolish to deny Christian teaching or to hold Moslem or pagan beliefs.<br />
&#039;Techie Worlds, Visible &#038; Invisible&#039; is available from <a href="http://www.amazon.com." target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.amazon.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com</a>. </p>
<p>GeorgeRic</p>
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		<title>By: barriejohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>barriejohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha!Ha!Ha! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!Ha!Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: barriejohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>barriejohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calvin and Knox were fascists, Stuart H. Just look at their views on society, and at the appalling human rights abuses under John Calvin. And if you read Martin Luther&#039;s utterances you will find that, had he had the political power which Calvin achieved, he would have quite easily trumped even that megalomaniac  for sheer barbaric cruelty! All these religious dictators are cast in the same mould!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calvin and Knox were fascists, Stuart H. Just look at their views on society, and at the appalling human rights abuses under John Calvin. And if you read Martin Luther&#039;s utterances you will find that, had he had the political power which Calvin achieved, he would have quite easily trumped even that megalomaniac  for sheer barbaric cruelty! All these religious dictators are cast in the same mould!!</p>
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		<title>By: Stoneyground</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stoneyground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a shame that these two groups can&#039;t see what they look like from the outside of their loopy clubs. Two sets of believers in fairy tales each claiming that their&#039;s is true and the other false and each insisting that the other lot would benefit from swopping sides.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a shame that these two groups can&#039;t see what they look like from the outside of their loopy clubs. Two sets of believers in fairy tales each claiming that their&#039;s is true and the other false and each insisting that the other lot would benefit from swopping sides.</p>
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		<title>By: stuffed</title>
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		<dc:creator>stuffed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is a confrontation of ideas, because, brothers and sisters, the most powerful weapon you have in your hand &#8230; is truth.&quot; 
 
Funny he just made th eperfect argument for atheism. Oh and an argument as to why people should not listen to him? And these people claim to be moral and sane. In my opinion noone is classically sane but these guys surely take the cake at insanity. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is a confrontation of ideas, because, brothers and sisters, the most powerful weapon you have in your hand &hellip; is truth.&#8221; </p>
<p>Funny he just made th eperfect argument for atheism. Oh and an argument as to why people should not listen to him? And these people claim to be moral and sane. In my opinion noone is classically sane but these guys surely take the cake at insanity.</p>
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		<title>By: barriejohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>barriejohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course. &quot;The Lord&#039;s will&quot; just means &quot;what we think is right&quot;! It&#039;s like all that twaddle about being &quot;called to missionary service&quot;. It&#039;s something that they desperately want to do, so they immerse themselves in it, and pray about it night and day, telling everyone that &lt;i&gt;&quot;The Lord has really laid this upon my heart&quot;&lt;/i&gt;, until everyone is convinced that it is God who is urging them to go down that route. I saw it all the time when I associated with these people, and, being a more rational and logical person, it always appeared bogus to me!!  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course. &quot;The Lord&#039;s will&quot; just means &quot;what we think is right&quot;! It&#039;s like all that twaddle about being &quot;called to missionary service&quot;. It&#039;s something that they desperately want to do, so they immerse themselves in it, and pray about it night and day, telling everyone that <i>&quot;The Lord has really laid this upon my heart&quot;</i>, until everyone is convinced that it is God who is urging them to go down that route. I saw it all the time when I associated with these people, and, being a more rational and logical person, it always appeared bogus to me!!</p>
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		<title>By: Buffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never tire of quoting Susan B. Anthony in matters such as this: 
 
&quot;I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. &quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never tire of quoting Susan B. Anthony in matters such as this: </p>
<p>&quot;I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. &quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Angela_K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela_K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...........get together and gang up on the rest of us. Well in a way they do, as the religious are united in their hatred of non-believers and gay people. Apparently, we atheists and gays are responsible for the end of civilisation. ;-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..get together and gang up on the rest of us. Well in a way they do, as the religious are united in their hatred of non-believers and gay people. Apparently, we atheists and gays are responsible for the end of civilisation. <img src='http://freethinker.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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