Comments on: Godless is GOOD! http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/16/godless-is-good/ The voice of atheism since 1881 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 01:31:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: The search is on in Sussex for the county’s most gay-friendly churches http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/16/godless-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-37977 The search is on in Sussex for the county’s most gay-friendly churches Thu, 01 Jul 2010 22:20:44 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=8961#comment-37977 [...] with fewer believers than anywhere else in the UK, has the reputation of being Britain’s most godless city. At the epicentre of much of this godlessness is the city’s sizeable gay population of around [...] [...] with fewer believers than anywhere else in the UK, has the reputation of being Britain’s most godless city. At the epicentre of much of this godlessness is the city’s sizeable gay population of around [...]

]]> By: Catholic priest in Brighton moans that Labour favours gays over the pious http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/16/godless-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-29239 Catholic priest in Brighton moans that Labour favours gays over the pious Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:49:32 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=8961#comment-29239 [...] Blake, of St Mary Magdalen in Brighton, said faith communities in Brighton and Hove – officially Britain’s most godless city – were being overlooked in favour of the city’s “hedonistic gay lobby”. Father Blake, [...] [...] Blake, of St Mary Magdalen in Brighton, said faith communities in Brighton and Hove – officially Britain’s most godless city – were being overlooked in favour of the city’s “hedonistic gay lobby”. Father Blake, [...]

]]> By: Will Alpha put Britain’s ‘most Godless city’ back on the path to Christianity? http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/16/godless-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-27156 Will Alpha put Britain’s ‘most Godless city’ back on the path to Christianity? Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:42:44 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=8961#comment-27156 [...] REMEMBER the Reverend Archie Coates? He made it onto this blog last October when he arrived in Brighton to reclaim this, Britain’s “most godless city”, for Jesus. [...] [...] REMEMBER the Reverend Archie Coates? He made it onto this blog last October when he arrived in Brighton to reclaim this, Britain’s “most godless city”, for Jesus. [...]

]]> By: Nitrous McBread http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/16/godless-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-23400 Nitrous McBread Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:12:30 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=8961#comment-23400 ^Hey Michael, I <i>did</i> go on an Alpha course, and they asked me to leave - because by well-behaved but persistent questioning of anything they said which didn't make sense, I was bringing more people round to a non-Christian way of thinking than they were managing to convince of their way. You say you find the 'hate' here a bit sinister. All I see is good-natured joshing. What I find sinister is that your first-century 'holy' book tells me that my expression of love for my partner is "an abomination". Now <i>that's</i> hate. ^Hey Michael, I did go on an Alpha course, and they asked me to leave – because by well-behaved but persistent questioning of anything they said which didn’t make sense, I was bringing more people round to a non-Christian way of thinking than they were managing to convince of their way. You say you find the ‘hate’ here a bit sinister. All I see is good-natured joshing. What I find sinister is that your first-century ‘holy’ book tells me that my expression of love for my partner is “an abomination”. Now that’s hate.

]]> By: Michael Parks http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/16/godless-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-23128 Michael Parks Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:25:55 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=8961#comment-23128 Oh this is priceless. Apparently the founder of your magazine was “Cutting”, “abrasive”, “sarcastic”, “offensive”. And you are so proud of it. What makes you so proud? I'll go the faith based route I think. Nicer bunch of people even if you think they are barmy. You're pseudo-intellectual arrogance is repellent. Freethinkers my arse. I dare any of you to go on an Alpha course and engage in the debate face to face with Christians. You'll find they are the least pushy people you might care to meet and you may water down your hate a bit. In fact - I kind of find your hate a bit sinister. What's the point of it? Oh this is priceless. Apparently the founder of your magazine was “Cutting”, “abrasive”, “sarcastic”, “offensive”. And you are so proud of it. What makes you so proud? I'll go the faith based route I think. Nicer bunch of people even if you think they are barmy. You're pseudo-intellectual arrogance is repellent. Freethinkers my arse. I dare any of you to go on an Alpha course and engage in the debate face to face with Christians. You'll find they are the least pushy people you might care to meet and you may water down your hate a bit. In fact – I kind of find your hate a bit sinister. What's the point of it?

]]> By: Michael Parks http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/16/godless-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-23113 Michael Parks Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:49:32 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=8961#comment-23113 You're a funny lot aren't you? Spending your days posting comments on your own religious site? Oh well. I vote for this guy based on the fact that he's said he's going to be "playing [his] part in the re-evangelisation of Brighton and transformation of this society." Course he'll have to earn those colours along with everyone else. However: even if you don't like the evangelism, God knows (no pun intended) that the city needs a few do gooders to do some good. I read in one of the posts that a girl died of an overdose on the stairs of the church the other day. It's such a shame that it had temporarily closed since that is exactly what he wants to take part in addressing from what he seems to have said. Not such a bad thing - however misguided you might think he is about his faith. Presumeably Brighton isn't "too smart" to welcome another pair of hands. No of course it's not. You're a funny lot aren't you? Spending your days posting comments on your own religious site? Oh well. I vote for this guy based on the fact that he's said he's going to be "playing [his] part in the re-evangelisation of Brighton and transformation of this society." Course he'll have to earn those colours along with everyone else. However: even if you don't like the evangelism, God knows (no pun intended) that the city needs a few do gooders to do some good. I read in one of the posts that a girl died of an overdose on the stairs of the church the other day. It's such a shame that it had temporarily closed since that is exactly what he wants to take part in addressing from what he seems to have said. Not such a bad thing – however misguided you might think he is about his faith. Presumeably Brighton isn't "too smart" to welcome another pair of hands. No of course it's not.

]]> By: William Harwood http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/16/godless-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-23078 William Harwood Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:56:11 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=8961#comment-23078 "omniscience" was a typo. I should have written "omnipotence". "omniscience" was a typo. I should have written "omnipotence".

]]> By: Stoneyground http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/16/godless-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-23070 Stoneyground Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:04:19 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=8961#comment-23070 I agree that in this case the poster is referring to a specific God and in that case the answer is definately no. It only becomes an open question when applied to some vaguely defined deist god and in that case I think that the correct answer is probably not. I also think that the existence of such a god is highly unlikely, hence the reference to Russels teapot. I agree that in this case the poster is referring to a specific God and in that case the answer is definately no. It only becomes an open question when applied to some vaguely defined deist god and in that case I think that the correct answer is probably not. I also think that the existence of such a god is highly unlikely, hence the reference to Russels teapot.

]]> By: Alice http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/16/godless-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-23067 Alice Sun, 18 Oct 2009 04:00:52 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=8961#comment-23067 I lived in Brighton for 6 months and the best thing about it is its incredible diversity - and along with it, a complete lack of labels. As a visiting Indian student remarked, a Tory in a three-piece suit with a briefcase can be best mates with a transvestive with purple dreadlocks and nobody will bat an eyelid! I still miss it - it's the place where you can be just *anyone* and you're accepted. You can walk round the beach or the cheesy pier at 1am and feel perfectly safe, not because everyone is godly and placid, but because everywhere is populated and happy, and people are communicative and look out for each other. Brighton is far too smart to be in the least bit swayed by yet another weirdo. I expect they will just laugh! I lived in Brighton for 6 months and the best thing about it is its incredible diversity – and along with it, a complete lack of labels. As a visiting Indian student remarked, a Tory in a three-piece suit with a briefcase can be best mates with a transvestive with purple dreadlocks and nobody will bat an eyelid! I still miss it – it's the place where you can be just *anyone* and you're accepted. You can walk round the beach or the cheesy pier at 1am and feel perfectly safe, not because everyone is godly and placid, but because everywhere is populated and happy, and people are communicative and look out for each other.

Brighton is far too smart to be in the least bit swayed by yet another weirdo. I expect they will just laugh!

]]> By: William Harwood http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/16/godless-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-23065 William Harwood Sun, 18 Oct 2009 00:30:26 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=8961#comment-23065 This comment reveals how successful the godphuqt have been in deluding even nontheists into believing the Big Lie that it is impossible to prove a negative. Consider the following: "A square circle cannot exist." "A living corpse cannot exist." "God cannot exist." Each of those statements is true by definition, since each concept identified as nonexistent is a self-contained oxymoron. Square-circle and living-corpse are self-evidently absurd. "God" is by definition a god with the specific qualities of omnibenevolence that would cause him to wish to protect humans from harm, and omniscience that would enable him to protect humans from harm. If God, so defined, existed, massive human deaths from natural disasters and disease could not exist. But they do exist. The answer to, "Do gods exist?" is, "probably no." The answer to, "Does God exist?" is "unequivocally no." This comment reveals how successful the godphuqt have been in deluding even nontheists into believing the Big Lie that it is impossible to prove a negative. Consider the following: "A square circle cannot exist." "A living corpse cannot exist." "God cannot exist." Each of those statements is true by definition, since each concept identified as nonexistent is a self-contained oxymoron. Square-circle and living-corpse are self-evidently absurd. "God" is by definition a god with the specific qualities of omnibenevolence that would cause him to wish to protect humans from harm, and omniscience that would enable him to protect humans from harm. If God, so defined, existed, massive human deaths from natural disasters and disease could not exist. But they do exist. The answer to, "Do gods exist?" is, "probably no." The answer to, "Does God exist?" is "unequivocally no."

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