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	<title>Comments on: â€˜Caring&#8217; mosque leader dies in a shoot-out with FBI agents in Detroit</title>
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		<title>By: Junaid M. Afeef</title>
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		<dc:creator>Junaid M. Afeef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A two year sting.  Over 20 pages of excerpts of conversations in the special agent Leone affidavit.  Lots of extreme views.  Lots of talk about shooting and kicking ass.  Take of &quot;offensive jihad&quot; and claims of creating a separatist Islamic state.  And so what was the incident about?  Stolen furs.  Are you serious?  We have a global war on terror going on and our only domestic anti-terror agency sinks 2 years into alleged fur coat thieves?  Did the feds bring their best case?  If not, why not?  Also, with regard to some of the comments, I&#039;m not sure I know much about the leading lights in the European flesh pot and what that has to do with the 1.2 billion Muslims who live all across the globe.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A two year sting.  Over 20 pages of excerpts of conversations in the special agent Leone affidavit.  Lots of extreme views.  Lots of talk about shooting and kicking ass.  Take of &#8220;offensive jihad&#8221; and claims of creating a separatist Islamic state.  And so what was the incident about?  Stolen furs.  Are you serious?  We have a global war on terror going on and our only domestic anti-terror agency sinks 2 years into alleged fur coat thieves?  Did the feds bring their best case?  If not, why not?  Also, with regard to some of the comments, I&#8217;m not sure I know much about the leading lights in the European flesh pot and what that has to do with the 1.2 billion Muslims who live all across the globe.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Broga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stonyground.  I am told that many of the leading lights in the muslim world are happy to get to some of the fleshpots of Europe.   There they enjoy a hedonism far beyond what I would either experience or wish.   These hypocrites float along on a sea of oil and, I suppose, when they leave their villas, alcohol, women etc they willl return to lecture the peasants on the need to be strict muslims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stonyground.  I am told that many of the leading lights in the muslim world are happy to get to some of the fleshpots of Europe.   There they enjoy a hedonism far beyond what I would either experience or wish.   These hypocrites float along on a sea of oil and, I suppose, when they leave their villas, alcohol, women etc they willl return to lecture the peasants on the need to be strict muslims.</p>
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		<title>By: Stonyground</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stonyground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Broga, the answer seems to be in the next news item, it appears that we have to be saved from our enslavement to hedonism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Broga, the answer seems to be in the next news item, it appears that we have to be saved from our enslavement to hedonism.</p>
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		<title>By: Broga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stoneyground.   Good question.   I wonder if the answer lies in the search for oecumenicalsm?    We all have to get together and be friends - atheists excepted of course.    Trouble is that religious oecumenicalism means &quot;I know my superstition is right and if you don&#039;t agreee you will be in horrible trouble.&quot;

I am a fan of Michel de Montaigne (The Essays) and this is one of my favourite comments from them :  &quot;After all, it is to put a very high value on your surmises to roast a man alive for them.&quot;

Writing in the 1580&#039;s there was added point to the comment as you might well end up to your arse in dry brushwood with a priest heading towards you with a lighted taper.   Looking at what is happening today under sharia law I am not sure we have made a great deal of progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stoneyground.   Good question.   I wonder if the answer lies in the search for oecumenicalsm?    We all have to get together and be friends &#8211; atheists excepted of course.    Trouble is that religious oecumenicalism means &#8220;I know my superstition is right and if you don&#8217;t agreee you will be in horrible trouble.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am a fan of Michel de Montaigne (The Essays) and this is one of my favourite comments from them :  &#8220;After all, it is to put a very high value on your surmises to roast a man alive for them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Writing in the 1580&#8242;s there was added point to the comment as you might well end up to your arse in dry brushwood with a priest heading towards you with a lighted taper.   Looking at what is happening today under sharia law I am not sure we have made a great deal of progress.</p>
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		<title>By: mohammed allah</title>
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		<dc:creator>mohammed allah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch and read mohammed T-shirt art from Sweden at,
http://www.mohammedt-shirt.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch and read mohammed T-shirt art from Sweden at,<br />
<a href="http://www.mohammedt-shirt.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mohammedt-shirt.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stonyground</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stonyground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are these people doing living in a western democracy if they would prefer to live in an Islamic state? Maybe they are not aware that there are lots of Islamic states available to go and live in and so spend all there time in Europe and the US making a nuisance of themselves.

Jamil there is going to be in charge when Islam conquers the USA is he? Just like seventeen year old Stonyground is going to have a Laverda Jota (See earlier post about Buckingham Palace being turned into a mosque).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are these people doing living in a western democracy if they would prefer to live in an Islamic state? Maybe they are not aware that there are lots of Islamic states available to go and live in and so spend all there time in Europe and the US making a nuisance of themselves.</p>
<p>Jamil there is going to be in charge when Islam conquers the USA is he? Just like seventeen year old Stonyground is going to have a Laverda Jota (See earlier post about Buckingham Palace being turned into a mosque).</p>
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		<title>By: Chad D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The story says he was a leader of a national radical Sunni group from Detroit.
They picked up the last two of the bunch in Windsor.
That&#039;s 2 countries.

2 countries too many to have religious fanatics/

Create their own islamic state?
The Natives have a hard enough time keeping their own land they have left and they (radically f&#039;d thinkers) think they can have some just for themselves? 
That is not rational thinking.
We don&#039;t need mentally incapable people ruining our neighborhoods!

a message from Windsor/Detroit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The story says he was a leader of a national radical Sunni group from Detroit.<br />
They picked up the last two of the bunch in Windsor.<br />
That&#8217;s 2 countries.</p>
<p>2 countries too many to have religious fanatics/</p>
<p>Create their own islamic state?<br />
The Natives have a hard enough time keeping their own land they have left and they (radically f&#8217;d thinkers) think they can have some just for themselves?<br />
That is not rational thinking.<br />
We don&#8217;t need mentally incapable people ruining our neighborhoods!</p>
<p>a message from Windsor/Detroit.</p>
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		<title>By: CybrgnX</title>
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		<dc:creator>CybrgnX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Believe!!!  islam is the faith of love, peace, and tolerance!!!
I believe!!! 
People didn&#039;t fly planes into the building - its a CIA plot!!!
No one went to the moon!!!
Crop circles are made by aliens form Rigel.

I try to believe two or three stupid things a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Believe!!!  islam is the faith of love, peace, and tolerance!!!<br />
I believe!!!<br />
People didn&#8217;t fly planes into the building &#8211; its a CIA plot!!!<br />
No one went to the moon!!!<br />
Crop circles are made by aliens form Rigel.</p>
<p>I try to believe two or three stupid things a day.</p>
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