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		<title>By: dogon</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/11/12/christian-forgiveness-and-the-law/comment-page-1/#comment-24146</link>
		<dc:creator>dogon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In my judgment you are a devious and manipulative young man with an unhealthy and completely unacceptable sexual interest in young boys.&quot;

Should not the clergy, who hide behind the protective skirt of the mother catholic church, receive at the very least the same sentence ?....or worse as they are in a position of trust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In my judgment you are a devious and manipulative young man with an unhealthy and completely unacceptable sexual interest in young boys.&#8221;</p>
<p>Should not the clergy, who hide behind the protective skirt of the mother catholic church, receive at the very least the same sentence ?&#8230;.or worse as they are in a position of trust.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Stovold</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/11/12/christian-forgiveness-and-the-law/comment-page-1/#comment-24144</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Stovold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The absurdity of the doctrine known as &#039;The Fall of Man,&#039; gave birth to that other absurdity known as &#039;The Atonement.&#039; So that now it is insisted that, as we are rightfully charged with sin of someone else, we can rightfully be credited with the virtues of another.&quot; (Robert Ingersoll, Ingersoll&#039;s Works, Vol. 2, p. 370)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The absurdity of the doctrine known as &#8216;The Fall of Man,&#8217; gave birth to that other absurdity known as &#8216;The Atonement.&#8217; So that now it is insisted that, as we are rightfully charged with sin of someone else, we can rightfully be credited with the virtues of another.&#8221; (Robert Ingersoll, Ingersoll&#8217;s Works, Vol. 2, p. 370)</p>
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		<title>By: William Harwood</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/11/12/christian-forgiveness-and-the-law/comment-page-1/#comment-24139</link>
		<dc:creator>William Harwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This case may be the strongest proof to date that Anointianity (Greek: Khristianismos) is a mindcrippling form of insanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This case may be the strongest proof to date that Anointianity (Greek: Khristianismos) is a mindcrippling form of insanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucky Jean</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/11/12/christian-forgiveness-and-the-law/comment-page-1/#comment-24137</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucky Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The parents couldn&#039;t have just forgiven the rapist and then said, &quot;Well, too bad you&#039;re in this legal mess now, we&#039;ll pray for you...&quot;? 
Even if you believe in Christianity, there&#039;s that whole concept of &quot;render unto Caesar what is Caesar&#039;s and render unto God what is God&#039;s...&quot;, so there&#039;s not even a good religious reason for them to have expected to tell the judge how to rule in this case.
Unless you believe in mixing church and state. I&#039;m over in America, y&#039;all, I don&#039;t know how well y&#039;all separate the two over in the uk, but we still have separation of church and state...for now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The parents couldn&#8217;t have just forgiven the rapist and then said, &#8220;Well, too bad you&#8217;re in this legal mess now, we&#8217;ll pray for you&#8230;&#8221;?<br />
Even if you believe in Christianity, there&#8217;s that whole concept of &#8220;render unto Caesar what is Caesar&#8217;s and render unto God what is God&#8217;s&#8230;&#8221;, so there&#8217;s not even a good religious reason for them to have expected to tell the judge how to rule in this case.<br />
Unless you believe in mixing church and state. I&#8217;m over in America, y&#8217;all, I don&#8217;t know how well y&#8217;all separate the two over in the uk, but we still have separation of church and state&#8230;for now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Broga</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/11/12/christian-forgiveness-and-the-law/comment-page-1/#comment-24134</link>
		<dc:creator>Broga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone had raped my daughter, especially at that age, (and I do have a daughter) I wouldn&#039;t be asking for forgiveness for him and I don&#039;t think I would be looking to our so called &quot;justice system&quot; to sort it out.   I think I would want to &quot;reason&quot; with him.    The comments by others about religion screwing up parents or others minds gets it right.  Then this rapist moves on to strike other times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone had raped my daughter, especially at that age, (and I do have a daughter) I wouldn&#8217;t be asking for forgiveness for him and I don&#8217;t think I would be looking to our so called &#8220;justice system&#8221; to sort it out.   I think I would want to &#8220;reason&#8221; with him.    The comments by others about religion screwing up parents or others minds gets it right.  Then this rapist moves on to strike other times.</p>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/11/12/christian-forgiveness-and-the-law/comment-page-1/#comment-24129</link>
		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rog</title>
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		<dc:creator>rog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I note that comments on the daily heil website are not active for this story, but are for a woman who caught her husband [by pretending to be a teenager via chat] trying to pick up underage teenagers on-line and then told the police... double standards, but what can you expact from that rag?

IHO the judge simply did not do his job, to protect the public, in this case. On another note, I used to get grounded for not doing my home work, what the fuck were the parents of the offender doing letting him out unsupervised after raping other children?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note that comments on the daily heil website are not active for this story, but are for a woman who caught her husband [by pretending to be a teenager via chat] trying to pick up underage teenagers on-line and then told the police&#8230; double standards, but what can you expact from that rag?</p>
<p>IHO the judge simply did not do his job, to protect the public, in this case. On another note, I used to get grounded for not doing my home work, what the fuck were the parents of the offender doing letting him out unsupervised after raping other children?</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strictly speaking, the victim didn&#039;t get a chance to read a &#039;statement&#039; - his parents did, and there&#039;s the problem!
On the other hand, maybe that victim has a case against his parents, and any half awake judge should have ensured he had an independent solicitor to bring it or was made a ward of court in order to protect the poor sod from bampot parents who don&#039;t act in his best interest.
Of course, curiously this never seems to happen when the bampots are &#039;respectable Christians&#039;, as opposed to, say, someone with an unusual but not dangerous lifestyle the likes of the Daily Mail might not approve of!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strictly speaking, the victim didn&#8217;t get a chance to read a &#8217;statement&#8217; &#8211; his parents did, and there&#8217;s the problem!<br />
On the other hand, maybe that victim has a case against his parents, and any half awake judge should have ensured he had an independent solicitor to bring it or was made a ward of court in order to protect the poor sod from bampot parents who don&#8217;t act in his best interest.<br />
Of course, curiously this never seems to happen when the bampots are &#8216;respectable Christians&#8217;, as opposed to, say, someone with an unusual but not dangerous lifestyle the likes of the Daily Mail might not approve of!</p>
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		<title>By: Neuseline</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/11/12/christian-forgiveness-and-the-law/comment-page-1/#comment-24119</link>
		<dc:creator>Neuseline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christianity should come with a public health warning. Maybe our pious government can be persuaded (haha) to warn us of the dangers of practising this religion, as they warn us about salmonella in eggs etc. Come to think of it, Christianity is like a bad egg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christianity should come with a public health warning. Maybe our pious government can be persuaded (haha) to warn us of the dangers of practising this religion, as they warn us about salmonella in eggs etc. Come to think of it, Christianity is like a bad egg.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela_K</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/11/12/christian-forgiveness-and-the-law/comment-page-1/#comment-24118</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela_K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said Barrie! What kind of perverted mind can forgive anybody who rapes their child and allows them to walk free of jail. I hope these loony christian parents are racked with guilt. Another example of how religion poisons everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said Barrie! What kind of perverted mind can forgive anybody who rapes their child and allows them to walk free of jail. I hope these loony christian parents are racked with guilt. Another example of how religion poisons everything.</p>
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