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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Broga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rog.

Good point on Isaac Newton.    I think he spent much of his time attempting to discover a method of turning base metals into gold, for example.    I also agree that if a &quot;believer&quot; comes up with something which turns out to be true i.e. that there is water on the moon then that is still true - if that is indeed so.

I recall reading H.L. Mencken&#039;s reports of the Tenessee Monkey  or Trial when one of the prime witnesses said that someone who read the bible knew more science than all the scientists in the USA.   When you have that kind of closed mind you are asking for trouble and as I recall this man got it.   I think much of this half baked biblical stuff is down to intellectual sloth.   Belief what some half wit pastor tells you and you don&#039;t have to trouble with slogging through years of hard work to acquire a degree.    Nor does the pastor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rog.</p>
<p>Good point on Isaac Newton.    I think he spent much of his time attempting to discover a method of turning base metals into gold, for example.    I also agree that if a &#8220;believer&#8221; comes up with something which turns out to be true i.e. that there is water on the moon then that is still true &#8211; if that is indeed so.</p>
<p>I recall reading H.L. Mencken&#8217;s reports of the Tenessee Monkey  or Trial when one of the prime witnesses said that someone who read the bible knew more science than all the scientists in the USA.   When you have that kind of closed mind you are asking for trouble and as I recall this man got it.   I think much of this half baked biblical stuff is down to intellectual sloth.   Belief what some half wit pastor tells you and you don&#8217;t have to trouble with slogging through years of hard work to acquire a degree.    Nor does the pastor.</p>
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		<title>By: CybrgnX</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The actions of this guy hasn&#039;t been new since the invention of writing.
As a member of the SCA and do a college paper on witch burnings, I have seen the history of the church throughout europe during the 1000 thru 1600s and they (all sects) were very busy stealing-raping-living better then most- and of course burning.
What you hear about islam is no different then the xtians during that time.
But none of that compares to the worse thing imaginable....
The Alamo guy is guilty...how many of his group still believe he is a holy man and would continue to follow him is they could???? TOO MANY!!
Read the buyBull and look at history and you see all religions are lead by Alamo types and as long as the delusional followers continue to be so this stuff will continue.  Ya my opinion of the average religious person is pretty low, but history agrees with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The actions of this guy hasn&#8217;t been new since the invention of writing.<br />
As a member of the SCA and do a college paper on witch burnings, I have seen the history of the church throughout europe during the 1000 thru 1600s and they (all sects) were very busy stealing-raping-living better then most- and of course burning.<br />
What you hear about islam is no different then the xtians during that time.<br />
But none of that compares to the worse thing imaginable&#8230;.<br />
The Alamo guy is guilty&#8230;how many of his group still believe he is a holy man and would continue to follow him is they could???? TOO MANY!!<br />
Read the buyBull and look at history and you see all religions are lead by Alamo types and as long as the delusional followers continue to be so this stuff will continue.  Ya my opinion of the average religious person is pretty low, but history agrees with me.</p>
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		<title>By: rog</title>
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		<dc:creator>rog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Broga

Isaac Newton had some famously dodgy beliefs, that did not make his gravitational theories any less valid for the time; if a Christian comes up with a new scientific theory it will be judged on it&#039;s merit and not on his or her world view... 2+2=4, it would not be any less true no matter who said it :)

On the topic, since the nasty little man has no chance of being judged either way after he shuffles off this mortal coil, I hope that he lives a long and unpleasant life - the idea that one can commit a crime, blame it on the devil, then claim gods forgiveness &amp; that &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; should trump human justice is simply ludicrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Broga</p>
<p>Isaac Newton had some famously dodgy beliefs, that did not make his gravitational theories any less valid for the time; if a Christian comes up with a new scientific theory it will be judged on it&#8217;s merit and not on his or her world view&#8230; 2+2=4, it would not be any less true no matter who said it <img src='http://freethinker.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>On the topic, since the nasty little man has no chance of being judged either way after he shuffles off this mortal coil, I hope that he lives a long and unpleasant life &#8211; the idea that one can commit a crime, blame it on the devil, then claim gods forgiveness &amp; that <i>that</i> should trump human justice is simply ludicrous.</p>
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		<title>By: Broga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stonyground.   There isn&#039;t any doubt, as I see it anyway, that stupidity and ignorance are essential to an unquestioning flock.   They also lack any capacity for detached analysis never mind the education to do any research for themselves.   Last time I was in the USA, some years ago, I was told that Charles Darwin converted to Christianity on his deathbed.   A happy and convenient reassurance in the bible belt at the time and it continues.   

&quot;How do you know?&quot; I asked and I realised later that the question could have been far better formed.

&quot;Our pastor preached a sermon on that very fact and he quoted from the books he had read.&quot;    And that was it.   The pastor was the fount of all knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stonyground.   There isn&#8217;t any doubt, as I see it anyway, that stupidity and ignorance are essential to an unquestioning flock.   They also lack any capacity for detached analysis never mind the education to do any research for themselves.   Last time I was in the USA, some years ago, I was told that Charles Darwin converted to Christianity on his deathbed.   A happy and convenient reassurance in the bible belt at the time and it continues.   </p>
<p>&#8220;How do you know?&#8221; I asked and I realised later that the question could have been far better formed.</p>
<p>&#8220;Our pastor preached a sermon on that very fact and he quoted from the books he had read.&#8221;    And that was it.   The pastor was the fount of all knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: William Harwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Harwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if it occurred to Judge Harry Barnes that the rugbutters might put a hit on him for sentencing a man to 175 years jail for doing precisely what Mohammad did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if it occurred to Judge Harry Barnes that the rugbutters might put a hit on him for sentencing a man to 175 years jail for doing precisely what Mohammad did.</p>
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		<title>By: Stonyground</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stonyground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few years ago on one of BBC radio&#039;s numerous two minute God slots, a speaker seriously stepped out of line when commenting upon a recent child abuse case by claiming that atheists were the most likely perpetrators.

This of course proved a furious backlash from unbelievers and the guy got totally flamed on various internet forums. The thing that I noticed at the time was that wherever the matter was discussed, Christians derailed the thread. I am not even sure that this was even concious or deliberate, it was probably because they had no case at all if they stayed on topic and so had to change the subject.

Broga, these people often get away with their crimes because as a rule their followers are phenominally stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years ago on one of BBC radio&#8217;s numerous two minute God slots, a speaker seriously stepped out of line when commenting upon a recent child abuse case by claiming that atheists were the most likely perpetrators.</p>
<p>This of course proved a furious backlash from unbelievers and the guy got totally flamed on various internet forums. The thing that I noticed at the time was that wherever the matter was discussed, Christians derailed the thread. I am not even sure that this was even concious or deliberate, it was probably because they had no case at all if they stayed on topic and so had to change the subject.</p>
<p>Broga, these people often get away with their crimes because as a rule their followers are phenominally stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Broga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing.   Time after time they get away with their vile activities.  Suppose, as a kind of thought experiment, the effect of Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Daniel C. Denett being discovered to have stepped out of line sexually with a child?    Or even something much less.   Every religious bigot would be lining up to shout that this is the effect of atheism.   Not much forgiveness there for them or anyone who shared their views.

Yet time and again, particularly in the USA, preachers live like millionaires, are caught with their pants down and their secretary over a desk, are caught stealing money donated from their followers and they get away with it.    &quot;I repent, I was led astray by the devil, I ask you to accept that I am now cleansed in the blood of the lamb&quot; and they are back in business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing.   Time after time they get away with their vile activities.  Suppose, as a kind of thought experiment, the effect of Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Daniel C. Denett being discovered to have stepped out of line sexually with a child?    Or even something much less.   Every religious bigot would be lining up to shout that this is the effect of atheism.   Not much forgiveness there for them or anyone who shared their views.</p>
<p>Yet time and again, particularly in the USA, preachers live like millionaires, are caught with their pants down and their secretary over a desk, are caught stealing money donated from their followers and they get away with it.    &#8220;I repent, I was led astray by the devil, I ask you to accept that I am now cleansed in the blood of the lamb&#8221; and they are back in business.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Danaher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Danaher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, has anyone seen the &#039;A Moral Conundrum, Resolved with Scripture&#039; thread over at Pharyngula?

I suggest you all check it out if you want to be thoroughly entertained and depressed in equal measures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, has anyone seen the &#8216;A Moral Conundrum, Resolved with Scripture&#8217; thread over at Pharyngula?</p>
<p>I suggest you all check it out if you want to be thoroughly entertained and depressed in equal measures.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Danaher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Danaher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My heart goes out to the victims of pastor Alamo. But I&#039;m always puzzled how people can square their beliefs with the terrible things that happen to them:

&quot;&lt;i&gt;Maybe the real God, not the God you made up, will have mercy on your soul&lt;/i&gt;.&quot;

Where did they think their god was while they were being abused? 

&quot;&lt;i&gt;No sorry, can&#039;t intervene to save you. That would mean violating your free will, and we can&#039;t have that now, can we?&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

BTW &#039;Alamo&#039; means &#039;Poplar&#039; in Spanish. Let&#039;s hope the vile pastor is really &#039;poplar&#039; with the homeys on the inside.

I&#039;ll get me coat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My heart goes out to the victims of pastor Alamo. But I&#8217;m always puzzled how people can square their beliefs with the terrible things that happen to them:</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>Maybe the real God, not the God you made up, will have mercy on your soul</i>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Where did they think their god was while they were being abused? </p>
<p>&#8220;<i>No sorry, can&#8217;t intervene to save you. That would mean violating your free will, and we can&#8217;t have that now, can we?</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>BTW &#8216;Alamo&#8217; means &#8216;Poplar&#8217; in Spanish. Let&#8217;s hope the vile pastor is really &#8216;poplar&#8217; with the homeys on the inside.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll get me coat.</p>
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