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	<title>Comments on: Row erupts over humanist poster in Belfast</title>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/11/19/row-erupts-over-humanist-poster-in-belfast/comment-page-2/#comment-24835</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this could also apply to circumcision. keep your jesus off my penis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this could also apply to circumcision. keep your jesus off my penis.</p>
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		<title>By: David Eddy</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/11/19/row-erupts-over-humanist-poster-in-belfast/comment-page-2/#comment-24814</link>
		<dc:creator>David Eddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just keep this up please
We all know the results of the power of religion on all or our various societies from genocide to child abuse.  We have to hold them to account.
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just keep this up please<br />
We all know the results of the power of religion on all or our various societies from genocide to child abuse.  We have to hold them to account.<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it ironic that they&#039;d cry hypocrisy at a poster asking for objectivity.  This poster isn&#039;t even endorsing humanism, since it affords a child responsibility in faith, something most faith leaders would preach about.  Apparently Confirmation is just a formality?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it ironic that they&#8217;d cry hypocrisy at a poster asking for objectivity.  This poster isn&#8217;t even endorsing humanism, since it affords a child responsibility in faith, something most faith leaders would preach about.  Apparently Confirmation is just a formality?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe we have hit a nerve.  I was raised Catholic, so had never thought of it before, but a neighbor who was raised by more open minded parents said he believed forcing children into a particular religion was &quot;child abuse&quot;.  Just some food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe we have hit a nerve.  I was raised Catholic, so had never thought of it before, but a neighbor who was raised by more open minded parents said he believed forcing children into a particular religion was &#8220;child abuse&#8221;.  Just some food for thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not the only one Wolfy.  I don&#039;t live in Belfast, but I do live in Northern Ireland.  Adverts like this were always going to cause outrage here, mainly because the country is still controlled by the religious right.  Like someone said previously the DUP and Free Presbyterian labels are interchangeable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not the only one Wolfy.  I don&#8217;t live in Belfast, but I do live in Northern Ireland.  Adverts like this were always going to cause outrage here, mainly because the country is still controlled by the religious right.  Like someone said previously the DUP and Free Presbyterian labels are interchangeable.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, this makes me want to cry.
I LIVE there..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, this makes me want to cry.<br />
I LIVE there..</p>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Logical Thinker

It&#039;s utterly untrue that atheists promote thinking and questioning. The word &quot;atheist&quot; means someone who believes that it isn&#039;t possible for a deity to exist. Atheists can&#039;t actually prove in a scientific manner that god doesn&#039;t exist (well, if something doesn&#039;t exist you can&#039;t very well find proof of it, can you?) so instead they say to believers &quot;The onus is on you to prove that god does exist, because you&#039;re the ones making the claim! Ah ha!&quot;
A bit of logical thinking will, of course, lead one to the conclusion that a believer obviously can&#039;t hope to prove the existence of god to someone who doesn&#039;t believe it&#039;s possible for one to exist. That&#039;s usually the part where the atheist gets all huffy, and the believer becomes self-righteous.

Tell me, how exactly does this promote thinking and questioning? It&#039;s just absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Logical Thinker</p>
<p>It&#8217;s utterly untrue that atheists promote thinking and questioning. The word &#8220;atheist&#8221; means someone who believes that it isn&#8217;t possible for a deity to exist. Atheists can&#8217;t actually prove in a scientific manner that god doesn&#8217;t exist (well, if something doesn&#8217;t exist you can&#8217;t very well find proof of it, can you?) so instead they say to believers &#8220;The onus is on you to prove that god does exist, because you&#8217;re the ones making the claim! Ah ha!&#8221;<br />
A bit of logical thinking will, of course, lead one to the conclusion that a believer obviously can&#8217;t hope to prove the existence of god to someone who doesn&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s possible for one to exist. That&#8217;s usually the part where the atheist gets all huffy, and the believer becomes self-righteous.</p>
<p>Tell me, how exactly does this promote thinking and questioning? It&#8217;s just absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Logical Thinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Logical Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Des

We have to start somewhere.  How then, would you suggest logical thinking should be promoted?  Do you actually believe a &quot;God&quot; jerked off in heaven and spent his load into a virgin mother to make a clone of himself to kill himself to &quot;die for our sins&quot; which he made in the first place?  If he is omnipotent and omniscient, then why is there a need for churches and priests?  Do you believe in ancient gods, such as the Egyptian gods, Greek gods, and the like?  If not, then what makes the present religion significant?  It really is the same old crap just refurbished and changed a little here and a little there.  I live in a highly religious community and have Mormons, Catholics, Protestants, Baptists, and so on knocking on my door all of the time early in the morning trying to convert me to their religion.  You don&#039;t see atheists doing that.  I try to have intelligent conversations about the subject with believers, but the intelligent part stops with me when conversing.  When facts about their bible are presented, such as stoning your kids to death, often times I am called a liar.  It is in the old testament and most of the &quot;hardcore&quot; believers have no idea it is there.  Why is this so?  The reason why is because it is bashed into people&#039;s brains from an early age, and most of them never read the bible.  They only hear the good parts in church.  No one ever quotes the bible verses about stoning, polygamy, or anything of that nature.  Instead, you hear stuff like loving god, caring god, and so on.  Why then would a loving, caring god instruct Moses to slaughter people?  I don&#039;t care what those people did, no one deserves to be slaughtered (oh and women raped, while children are enslaved, can&#039;t forget that great stuff).  

Defending religion is completely and totally ludicrous.  Atheist promote thinking and questioning.  Is that really such a bad thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Des</p>
<p>We have to start somewhere.  How then, would you suggest logical thinking should be promoted?  Do you actually believe a &#8220;God&#8221; jerked off in heaven and spent his load into a virgin mother to make a clone of himself to kill himself to &#8220;die for our sins&#8221; which he made in the first place?  If he is omnipotent and omniscient, then why is there a need for churches and priests?  Do you believe in ancient gods, such as the Egyptian gods, Greek gods, and the like?  If not, then what makes the present religion significant?  It really is the same old crap just refurbished and changed a little here and a little there.  I live in a highly religious community and have Mormons, Catholics, Protestants, Baptists, and so on knocking on my door all of the time early in the morning trying to convert me to their religion.  You don&#8217;t see atheists doing that.  I try to have intelligent conversations about the subject with believers, but the intelligent part stops with me when conversing.  When facts about their bible are presented, such as stoning your kids to death, often times I am called a liar.  It is in the old testament and most of the &#8220;hardcore&#8221; believers have no idea it is there.  Why is this so?  The reason why is because it is bashed into people&#8217;s brains from an early age, and most of them never read the bible.  They only hear the good parts in church.  No one ever quotes the bible verses about stoning, polygamy, or anything of that nature.  Instead, you hear stuff like loving god, caring god, and so on.  Why then would a loving, caring god instruct Moses to slaughter people?  I don&#8217;t care what those people did, no one deserves to be slaughtered (oh and women raped, while children are enslaved, can&#8217;t forget that great stuff).  </p>
<p>Defending religion is completely and totally ludicrous.  Atheist promote thinking and questioning.  Is that really such a bad thing?</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>photoshopped</description>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rog
Yes, well you&#039;ve rather missed the point too. You know nothing about me. My objection to atheists has little to do with the existence of god. I&#039;m more perturbed by the manner in which they begin their arguments from a flawed premise and then have the cheek to suggest religious folk use bad logic. &quot;Clever apes&quot;, indeed. This is simian reasoning, is it?
It&#039;s also pretty objectionable that their justification for proselytising rubbish like these buses and billboards is &quot;Well the Christians did it first!&quot; How puerile. I don&#039;t want any of your nonsense thrust in my face any more than that of the organised religions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rog<br />
Yes, well you&#8217;ve rather missed the point too. You know nothing about me. My objection to atheists has little to do with the existence of god. I&#8217;m more perturbed by the manner in which they begin their arguments from a flawed premise and then have the cheek to suggest religious folk use bad logic. &#8220;Clever apes&#8221;, indeed. This is simian reasoning, is it?<br />
It&#8217;s also pretty objectionable that their justification for proselytising rubbish like these buses and billboards is &#8220;Well the Christians did it first!&#8221; How puerile. I don&#8217;t want any of your nonsense thrust in my face any more than that of the organised religions.</p>
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