Comments on: Leading contributor to evil in the world condemns reporting of evil in the world http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/12/10/leading-contributor-to-evil-in-the-world-condemns-reporting-of-evil-in-the-world/ The voice of atheism since 1881 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:31:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Barry Duke http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/12/10/leading-contributor-to-evil-in-the-world-condemns-reporting-of-evil-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-39615 Barry Duke Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:14:39 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=10318#comment-39615 "The pope himself ... is obviously an atheist" Naphthali, you are an IDIOT. Atheists, by and large, are good people. Intelligent, compassionate and free of irrational notions. The pope is not. “The pope himself … is obviously an atheist”

Naphthali, you are an IDIOT. Atheists, by and large, are good people. Intelligent, compassionate and free of irrational notions. The pope is not.

]]> By: naphtali http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/12/10/leading-contributor-to-evil-in-the-world-condemns-reporting-of-evil-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-39612 naphtali Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:44:59 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=10318#comment-39612 It is bad enough that the pope himself, by his deeds, is obviously an atheist; either that or he WANTS to commit spiritual suicide and BURN; but to DECEIVE two thousand million people, to FOLLOW and BURN with him, is the greatest CRIME of ALL. That is why Paul calls the papacy the son of the Destroyer. It has been known for centuries that the Vatican is "The Mother of Harlots" referred to by Christ in Revelation/Apocalypse chapter 17; which explains perfectly that it is that great CITY (Vatican CITY) that rules over the kings of the earth; that sits on 7 mountains (Rome), where the inhabitants wear SCARLET (cardinals) and PURPLE (bishops) decked with gold; precious stones and pearls and calls itself "Mother" church. It is bad enough that the pope himself, by his deeds, is obviously an atheist; either that or he WANTS to commit spiritual suicide and BURN; but to DECEIVE two thousand million people, to FOLLOW and BURN with him, is the greatest CRIME of ALL. That is why Paul calls the papacy the son of the Destroyer.

It has been known for centuries that the Vatican is “The Mother of Harlots” referred to by Christ in Revelation/Apocalypse chapter 17; which explains perfectly that it is that great CITY (Vatican CITY) that rules over the kings of the earth; that sits on 7 mountains (Rome), where the inhabitants wear SCARLET (cardinals) and PURPLE (bishops) decked with gold; precious stones and pearls and calls itself “Mother” church.

]]> By: Neuseline http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/12/10/leading-contributor-to-evil-in-the-world-condemns-reporting-of-evil-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-25466 Neuseline Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:46:58 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=10318#comment-25466 "Every day, through the newspapers, television, radio, evil is reported, repeated, amplified, making us used to horrible things, making us become insensitive, and, in some way, poisoning us. Hearts harden and thoughts darken. Tend to make us feel like spectators, as if evil regards only others and certain things could never happen to us." Years ago I read a book about Erroneous Zones. The e.z. are the belief that others are responsible for how we feel and what we think. If somebody calls me a silly cow, I can choose to be offended or not. Equally Jupp Rat-zinger can choose not to become incensitive. Unfortunately, of course, most people don't reason like that. “Every day, through the newspapers, television, radio, evil is reported, repeated, amplified, making us used to horrible things, making us become insensitive, and, in some way, poisoning us. Hearts harden and thoughts darken.
Tend to make us feel like spectators, as if evil regards only others and certain things could never happen to us.”

Years ago I read a book about Erroneous Zones. The e.z. are the belief that others are responsible for how we feel and what we think. If somebody calls me a silly cow, I can choose to be offended or not. Equally Jupp Rat-zinger can choose not to become incensitive.
Unfortunately, of course, most people don’t reason like that.

]]> By: Buffy http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/12/10/leading-contributor-to-evil-in-the-world-condemns-reporting-of-evil-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-25443 Buffy Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:55:18 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=10318#comment-25443 <i>Every day, through the newspapers, television, radio, evil is reported, repeated, amplified, making us used to horrible things, making us become insensitive, and, in some way, poisoning us. Hearts harden and thoughts darken.</i> Sounds more like what happens to people who listen to church sermons. Every day, through the newspapers, television, radio, evil is reported, repeated, amplified, making us used to horrible things, making us become insensitive, and, in some way, poisoning us. Hearts harden and thoughts darken.

Sounds more like what happens to people who listen to church sermons.

]]> By: Stonyground http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/12/10/leading-contributor-to-evil-in-the-world-condemns-reporting-of-evil-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-25430 Stonyground Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:42:16 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=10318#comment-25430 I was reading a science blog, sorry can't remember where as it was a while ago, and the article made a passing reference to the infamous Galileo affair. A short way into the comments was a long and tedious screed spelling out the official Vatican version of the Galileo story. I was gratified to see that subsequent commenters totally ignored it and stayed with the original subject. I also recall a troll (may have been on this blog) who was doggedly attempting to defend the Vatican's indefencible position regarding an abortion carried out on a nine year old who had been raped by her own father. Basically the evil abortionists were excommunicated and the rapist was ignored. It seems that we should never underestimate the awsome power of childhood indocrination, the Catholic Church and many other religions have long been aware of this power and use it as much as they can get away with. Having said all that, I do actually agree with Ratty's basic premise that we perceive the world to be blacker than it is due to bad news being more interesting and newsworthy than good news. But I do have the intelligence to work out that that is just the way that things are and as has been pointed out by others, there would be a damn sight fewer negative stories in the press if the Vatican were to grow a concience. I was reading a science blog, sorry can’t remember where as it was a while ago, and the article made a passing reference to the infamous Galileo affair. A short way into the comments was a long and tedious screed spelling out the official Vatican version of the Galileo story. I was gratified to see that subsequent commenters totally ignored it and stayed with the original subject.

I also recall a troll (may have been on this blog) who was doggedly attempting to defend the Vatican’s indefencible position regarding an abortion carried out on a nine year old who had been raped by her own father. Basically the evil abortionists were excommunicated and the rapist was ignored.

It seems that we should never underestimate the awsome power of childhood indocrination, the Catholic Church and many other religions have long been aware of this power and use it as much as they can get away with.

Having said all that, I do actually agree with Ratty’s basic premise that we perceive the world to be blacker than it is due to bad news being more interesting and newsworthy than good news. But I do have the intelligence to work out that that is just the way that things are and as has been pointed out by others, there would be a damn sight fewer negative stories in the press if the Vatican were to grow a concience.

]]> By: Broga http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/12/10/leading-contributor-to-evil-in-the-world-condemns-reporting-of-evil-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-25426 Broga Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:09:49 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=10318#comment-25426 Marcus. Thanks. In the past these con artists (priests) used to set up booths where suckers (believers) would pay big money for absolution. Great racket - loads of money for words and promises that you will never contradict. Martin Luther put a bomb under that one and was lucky not to be up to his arse in dry brushwood with a priest trotting towards him with a lighted taper. I think you analyse the problem accurately. Going a little bit further the suckers are so scared, so in need of reassurance, so terrified of death that they are desperate to believe and the con men sure know how to respond. Get the suckers together, emphasise the ritual, bang in music, get group think going etc and it is game on. This is the reason why a rational voice must be either silenced or censored so that the propaganda has a free run. The faith schools (pushed by Blair and co), the faith community, the faith voluntary agencies and the fear - sorry to bang on about this one - that Thought for the Day might be opened to a sceptical contribution. Marcus. Thanks. In the past these con artists (priests) used to set up booths where suckers (believers) would pay big money for absolution. Great racket – loads of money for words and promises that you will never contradict. Martin Luther put a bomb under that one and was lucky not to be up to his arse in dry brushwood with a priest trotting towards him with a lighted taper.

I think you analyse the problem accurately. Going a little bit further the suckers are so scared, so in need of reassurance, so terrified of death that they are desperate to believe and the con men sure know how to respond.

Get the suckers together, emphasise the ritual, bang in music, get group think going etc and it is game on. This is the reason why a rational voice must be either silenced or censored so that the propaganda has a free run. The faith schools (pushed by Blair and co), the faith community, the faith voluntary agencies and the fear – sorry to bang on about this one – that Thought for the Day might be opened to a sceptical contribution.

]]> By: rog http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/12/10/leading-contributor-to-evil-in-the-world-condemns-reporting-of-evil-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-25425 rog Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:37:49 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=10318#comment-25425 Nazinger has some bloody cheek! Nazinger has some bloody cheek!

]]> By: Tim Danaher http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/12/10/leading-contributor-to-evil-in-the-world-condemns-reporting-of-evil-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-25422 Tim Danaher Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:43:32 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=10318#comment-25422 So the constant reporting of evil is being condemned by an organisation whose central tenet is to constantly remind its flock that humans are essentially...er...evil? Riiiight... So the constant reporting of evil is being condemned by an organisation whose central tenet is to constantly remind its flock that humans are essentially…er…evil?

Riiiight…

]]> By: tony e http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/12/10/leading-contributor-to-evil-in-the-world-condemns-reporting-of-evil-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-25421 tony e Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:25:35 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=10318#comment-25421 What's the betting no priest goes to jail in Ireland over the scandal? What’s the betting no priest goes to jail in Ireland over the scandal?

]]> By: Angela_K http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/12/10/leading-contributor-to-evil-in-the-world-condemns-reporting-of-evil-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-25419 Angela_K Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:11:11 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=10318#comment-25419 Another Pot-kettle-black comment from the kiddie fiddler King. Catholics must be exceptionally dim not to see through the corruption and Mafia style tactics of the Vatican, especially after the abuse scandal in Ireland. Another Pot-kettle-black comment from the kiddie fiddler King. Catholics must be exceptionally dim not to see through the corruption and Mafia style tactics of the Vatican, especially after the abuse scandal in Ireland.

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