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		<title>By: Jon Kitten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Kitten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A response to the article by &quot;Sick and Tired&quot;

If you actually read what I wrote you would find I did not make reference to all of Islam, I mentioned specifically the extremists of Islam, as your faith like the Christian faith does have extremists. There was nothing hypocritical in what I wrote, but I do question your motives for such a comment or are you just blowing hot air because I was making a comment, any comment about Islam. Have you heard of free speech? If you do not believe in free speech, then I would have to question your motives for looking at this website. 

My comments in my article state &quot;extreme Islam&quot;, if I had written &quot;Islam&quot;, then you may have had cause to complain, but I did not, so get your facts straight. You can try and deny such things have happened in Islamic history, but I think you would expose yourself to a certain amount of ridicule as I can think of many examples of this throughout history.  

I have many Moslem friends and I respect their beliefs as much as they respect my freedom to choose. While I do not share their beliefs I know enough about Islam to be informed and make a choice based on this and my friends do agree with me that extremists in any religion are bad for everyone. Perhaps you should consider that.   

I am glad you liked the movie and I agree with those comments you made about it. The books are excellent and well worth a read. 

Perhaps in the future, before launching into a sad attempt to be personally insulting, you may consider what you have read before writing, particularly on a website called &quot;The Freethinker&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A response to the article by &#8220;Sick and Tired&#8221;</p>
<p>If you actually read what I wrote you would find I did not make reference to all of Islam, I mentioned specifically the extremists of Islam, as your faith like the Christian faith does have extremists. There was nothing hypocritical in what I wrote, but I do question your motives for such a comment or are you just blowing hot air because I was making a comment, any comment about Islam. Have you heard of free speech? If you do not believe in free speech, then I would have to question your motives for looking at this website. </p>
<p>My comments in my article state &#8220;extreme Islam&#8221;, if I had written &#8220;Islam&#8221;, then you may have had cause to complain, but I did not, so get your facts straight. You can try and deny such things have happened in Islamic history, but I think you would expose yourself to a certain amount of ridicule as I can think of many examples of this throughout history.  </p>
<p>I have many Moslem friends and I respect their beliefs as much as they respect my freedom to choose. While I do not share their beliefs I know enough about Islam to be informed and make a choice based on this and my friends do agree with me that extremists in any religion are bad for everyone. Perhaps you should consider that.   </p>
<p>I am glad you liked the movie and I agree with those comments you made about it. The books are excellent and well worth a read. </p>
<p>Perhaps in the future, before launching into a sad attempt to be personally insulting, you may consider what you have read before writing, particularly on a website called &#8220;The Freethinker&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Kerns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Kerns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a teenager 17, confirmed through the Catholic Church. I read the Golden compass back in 2006 and watched and enjoyed the Golden Compass film as a good, but not great, representation of the fabulous books. I recently re-watched the movie and was curious when a sequel would be releasing see it has been a bit over two years since the original&#039;s release. I was simply appalled at what I found.

To recap at my view on religion as a whole: I was raised by Catholic parents, dad that rarely attended Church, and the most open-minded Catholic of all-time, my mom, who went to Church regularly. Through a bout with what I thought was a serious condition, I found myself thinking a lot about death and through this I have questioned everything about the Church. Reading history on their past, the biggest piece of fiction of all-time, the bible, I have began to think of myself as a &quot;religious agnostic.&quot; While I&#039;m Cathloic and believe in God, I truly find myself closer to the spiritual teachings of the Buhdists, not the narrowminded, hypocritical view of the Christians. 

I understand the last two installments of the series being met with Cathloic protest but the first book was very tame, only vague symbolism. Yet even as being tame, New Line took out of thirty minutes of film (google it) reordered sequences, placing the ending shots at a climatic middle sequence where they are out of place, and flat out removed the book&#039;s ending, which greatly dissapointed me and my mom who saw it with me and enjoyed it reasonably, laments whenever I mention it &quot;The ending was simply horrible.&quot;

So now I see the horrible fate of this series has ended, possibly putting an end to the career of what I thought to be a very good young star, Dakota Blue Richards, and I now find myself even further pushed away from the Church. Through this you realize all the Catholic Church wants is your loyalty, not what you do after you pledge. They don&#039;t protest movie that display violence and prostitution (Departed, American Gangster) yet make sure any movie questioning them (Da Vinci Code, Golden Compass). 

Basically they attempt to get us (the youth) to join them even closer, and end pushing people like me even farther away. Anyway, this my rant. I hope that if these sequels truly never do get made (still I hope) I am sure eventually there will be a remake/reboot in the next decade or so, and give this series new hope. I sure hope so. TO be honest though, the first book was the best so they saw the greatest chapter. Thanks for listening and remember lawlolawl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a teenager 17, confirmed through the Catholic Church. I read the Golden compass back in 2006 and watched and enjoyed the Golden Compass film as a good, but not great, representation of the fabulous books. I recently re-watched the movie and was curious when a sequel would be releasing see it has been a bit over two years since the original&#8217;s release. I was simply appalled at what I found.</p>
<p>To recap at my view on religion as a whole: I was raised by Catholic parents, dad that rarely attended Church, and the most open-minded Catholic of all-time, my mom, who went to Church regularly. Through a bout with what I thought was a serious condition, I found myself thinking a lot about death and through this I have questioned everything about the Church. Reading history on their past, the biggest piece of fiction of all-time, the bible, I have began to think of myself as a &#8220;religious agnostic.&#8221; While I&#8217;m Cathloic and believe in God, I truly find myself closer to the spiritual teachings of the Buhdists, not the narrowminded, hypocritical view of the Christians. </p>
<p>I understand the last two installments of the series being met with Cathloic protest but the first book was very tame, only vague symbolism. Yet even as being tame, New Line took out of thirty minutes of film (google it) reordered sequences, placing the ending shots at a climatic middle sequence where they are out of place, and flat out removed the book&#8217;s ending, which greatly dissapointed me and my mom who saw it with me and enjoyed it reasonably, laments whenever I mention it &#8220;The ending was simply horrible.&#8221;</p>
<p>So now I see the horrible fate of this series has ended, possibly putting an end to the career of what I thought to be a very good young star, Dakota Blue Richards, and I now find myself even further pushed away from the Church. Through this you realize all the Catholic Church wants is your loyalty, not what you do after you pledge. They don&#8217;t protest movie that display violence and prostitution (Departed, American Gangster) yet make sure any movie questioning them (Da Vinci Code, Golden Compass). </p>
<p>Basically they attempt to get us (the youth) to join them even closer, and end pushing people like me even farther away. Anyway, this my rant. I hope that if these sequels truly never do get made (still I hope) I am sure eventually there will be a remake/reboot in the next decade or so, and give this series new hope. I sure hope so. TO be honest though, the first book was the best so they saw the greatest chapter. Thanks for listening and remember lawlolawl</p>
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		<title>By: Sick &#38; Tired</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sick &#38; Tired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 18:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Serai &amp; Jon Kitten:

Yes, a religious group (CATHOLICS) have slated the Golden Compass movie and condemned any sequels. It is THEM that have a huge problem with this, so there was ABSOLUTELY NO need to mention Islam or anything even remotely related to Islam. I&#039;m a Muslim (or &quot;Moslem&quot; as you would understand it) and I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, and believe that anyone who didn&#039;t is still entitled to their opinions but should not impress it on others.

If you only knew anything true about my religion (and not what you think you already know, which is not very much at all), you would know that it is most certainly not oppressive and everyone has the right to their own beliefs.

I saw this movie as pure fantasy and had nothing to do with any religions. You want people to view these movies open-mindedly, yet you are so ready to criticise what you know nothing about! So wake up and stop being hypocritical!

I loved the movie and hope there will be sequels. In the meantime, I&#039;m going to keep busy by reading the books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Serai &amp; Jon Kitten:</p>
<p>Yes, a religious group (CATHOLICS) have slated the Golden Compass movie and condemned any sequels. It is THEM that have a huge problem with this, so there was ABSOLUTELY NO need to mention Islam or anything even remotely related to Islam. I&#8217;m a Muslim (or &#8220;Moslem&#8221; as you would understand it) and I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, and believe that anyone who didn&#8217;t is still entitled to their opinions but should not impress it on others.</p>
<p>If you only knew anything true about my religion (and not what you think you already know, which is not very much at all), you would know that it is most certainly not oppressive and everyone has the right to their own beliefs.</p>
<p>I saw this movie as pure fantasy and had nothing to do with any religions. You want people to view these movies open-mindedly, yet you are so ready to criticise what you know nothing about! So wake up and stop being hypocritical!</p>
<p>I loved the movie and hope there will be sequels. In the meantime, I&#8217;m going to keep busy by reading the books.</p>
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		<title>By: FreedomandJusticeForAll?</title>
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		<dc:creator>FreedomandJusticeForAll?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We live in a free country...Our young men and women are overseas fighting and dieing for that freedom and yet we cannot even watch the movies we want to see???? For some reason I feel that we have gone back in time several centuries in which the church was the end all be all. I am a church going member and TOTALLY disagree with the squashing of the Golden Compass sequels...My family and I have been waiting to see this film and had to wait for it to come out on DVD/Blueray as the local theaters refused to show it. This country was built by persons just like us that did not agree with the dictatorship of the church and yet here we are in a new millenium facing the same battle....Will history ever STOP repeating itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We live in a free country&#8230;Our young men and women are overseas fighting and dieing for that freedom and yet we cannot even watch the movies we want to see???? For some reason I feel that we have gone back in time several centuries in which the church was the end all be all. I am a church going member and TOTALLY disagree with the squashing of the Golden Compass sequels&#8230;My family and I have been waiting to see this film and had to wait for it to come out on DVD/Blueray as the local theaters refused to show it. This country was built by persons just like us that did not agree with the dictatorship of the church and yet here we are in a new millenium facing the same battle&#8230;.Will history ever STOP repeating itself?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to see this movie WITH my church! Im super disappointed that there is not going to be a sequel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to see this movie WITH my church! Im super disappointed that there is not going to be a sequel</p>
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		<title>By: John Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the Catholic Church needs to stop running around complaining and campaigning to people not to see it.  It&#039;s a fantasy film. and a rather good one at that.  Just maybe they need to stop sticking their noses into other peoples Entertainment, and start doing something about all these Pedophile Priests they have all over the place, instead of covering up incidents and then moving them to new Parish&#039;s where they are free to molest more children.  It seems the Priests ignore the laws that require that anyone with knowledge, to report it to law Enforcement, so the catholic Church is not obeying the laws of the land.

In short, the Catholic Church need to take care of their own business, and start doing some housecleaning of their own before they start trying to force other people to see to stay away from anything.  They could start by warning the Parents to tell their Children to stay away from these Pedophile priests the Church knows exist, and where most of them are, and turn them over to the law!

I can only imagine what the Catholic Church thinks of Harry Potter.  The Bible tells us that the Creation was done by God, by &quot;Fiat&quot;.  That&#039;s a very old world term for &quot;Magic&quot;!  I think the Catholic Church is more concerned that People might get the idae that the Church is very much like the magisterium in the movie!

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the Catholic Church needs to stop running around complaining and campaigning to people not to see it.  It&#8217;s a fantasy film. and a rather good one at that.  Just maybe they need to stop sticking their noses into other peoples Entertainment, and start doing something about all these Pedophile Priests they have all over the place, instead of covering up incidents and then moving them to new Parish&#8217;s where they are free to molest more children.  It seems the Priests ignore the laws that require that anyone with knowledge, to report it to law Enforcement, so the catholic Church is not obeying the laws of the land.</p>
<p>In short, the Catholic Church need to take care of their own business, and start doing some housecleaning of their own before they start trying to force other people to see to stay away from anything.  They could start by warning the Parents to tell their Children to stay away from these Pedophile priests the Church knows exist, and where most of them are, and turn them over to the law!</p>
<p>I can only imagine what the Catholic Church thinks of Harry Potter.  The Bible tells us that the Creation was done by God, by &#8220;Fiat&#8221;.  That&#8217;s a very old world term for &#8220;Magic&#8221;!  I think the Catholic Church is more concerned that People might get the idae that the Church is very much like the magisterium in the movie!</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: william welsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>william welsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just in the process of finishing the third book and they are brilliant so I am MOST disappointed to hear the second and third movies will not be made.
Yes the first movie was not exactly Lord of the Rings but still entertaining.
The Church has NO right on what movies should be made, perhaps they should make as much fuss about the violence in movies today if they want to comment at all.
Ok the books do make you think of religion and your views but there again every sad event makes you question God, as does most human beings that have lost loved ones.
Let us hope some brave film maker will make the two movies, are you reading this Mr Speilberg and Mr Jackson ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just in the process of finishing the third book and they are brilliant so I am MOST disappointed to hear the second and third movies will not be made.<br />
Yes the first movie was not exactly Lord of the Rings but still entertaining.<br />
The Church has NO right on what movies should be made, perhaps they should make as much fuss about the violence in movies today if they want to comment at all.<br />
Ok the books do make you think of religion and your views but there again every sad event makes you question God, as does most human beings that have lost loved ones.<br />
Let us hope some brave film maker will make the two movies, are you reading this Mr Speilberg and Mr Jackson ?</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whats the point? religon is the cause of the majority of problems in the world, as shown with this film, its a FILM, a fantasy adventure based film. I think people need to get a grip,especialy the catholic church, drama queens. They released the divinci code that competly questions religon, so whats there problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whats the point? religon is the cause of the majority of problems in the world, as shown with this film, its a FILM, a fantasy adventure based film. I think people need to get a grip,especialy the catholic church, drama queens. They released the divinci code that competly questions religon, so whats there problem.</p>
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		<title>By: paula</title>
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		<dc:creator>paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Golden Compass was an great adventure.  I am a christian, I considered it a fantasy that&#039;s all.  If( in my OPINION) any one person is comparing it to the Cathlic religion it is them. 
  they did the sme thing with Harry Potter, again it is a story, for entertainment only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Golden Compass was an great adventure.  I am a christian, I considered it a fantasy that&#8217;s all.  If( in my OPINION) any one person is comparing it to the Cathlic religion it is them.<br />
  they did the sme thing with Harry Potter, again it is a story, for entertainment only.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 05:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Movies like this comes around like once in a generation. My sister who is very christian absolutly loved this movie and in fact went to church the next day and never once questioned gods existance. 
Sadly those who cant see past the pages of their bible dont stop to realize that they are the ones destroying the youth....Good little catholic girls are the ones getting pregnant good little catholic boys are dealing drugs and they have the gaull to critisize other movies well how about they clean house first? 
The catholic church is failing and fewer and fewer people even give a flying leap. 
What is that saying about those who live in glass houses? The movie was a fantastic story that left both me and my husband wanting more!!! 
The church does not realize that people who watch movies like this arent looking for a reason to hate god the catholics are giving them a perfectly good reason all on their own!!!! It says in the bible that all those who come before my father must come before me....
It does not say that all those who come before my father go see the child molester with the pointy hat!!!! so by their own standards they are condemned so GROW UP!!!!! they interperet the bible in ways that fit their own needs and i am sad to say that many people follow them.
I am a christian and i do not look at that movie as a way to bash god but a way to tell a lovely story Its like harry potter all over again....

a sad sad sad situation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Movies like this comes around like once in a generation. My sister who is very christian absolutly loved this movie and in fact went to church the next day and never once questioned gods existance.<br />
Sadly those who cant see past the pages of their bible dont stop to realize that they are the ones destroying the youth&#8230;.Good little catholic girls are the ones getting pregnant good little catholic boys are dealing drugs and they have the gaull to critisize other movies well how about they clean house first?<br />
The catholic church is failing and fewer and fewer people even give a flying leap.<br />
What is that saying about those who live in glass houses? The movie was a fantastic story that left both me and my husband wanting more!!!<br />
The church does not realize that people who watch movies like this arent looking for a reason to hate god the catholics are giving them a perfectly good reason all on their own!!!! It says in the bible that all those who come before my father must come before me&#8230;.<br />
It does not say that all those who come before my father go see the child molester with the pointy hat!!!! so by their own standards they are condemned so GROW UP!!!!! they interperet the bible in ways that fit their own needs and i am sad to say that many people follow them.<br />
I am a christian and i do not look at that movie as a way to bash god but a way to tell a lovely story Its like harry potter all over again&#8230;.</p>
<p>a sad sad sad situation</p>
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