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	<title>Comments on: Oh dear, Martha Stewart&#8217;s gay wedding feature ruffles a fundie&#8217;s feathers</title>
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		<title>By: Lucky Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucky Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &quot;stay at home daughter&quot; sounds very much like a &quot;stay at home mother&quot; except being a mother is a job and being a daughter usually isn&#039;t (unless your aged parents need a lot of care). &quot;Barefoot Bride&quot; and &quot;Lady-in-Waiting&quot; seems to indicate she&#039;s just waiting to get married and let her husband take care of her.
 
In other words, she&#039;s unemployed and living at home. What if she was a man doing this? Would a man stay at his mom&#039;s house waiting for some woman to come along and marry him, and call himself a &quot;stay at home son&quot;? Would he sit around writing a groom blog? 

She&#039;s just diverting attention away from herself so her parents won&#039;t tell her to go out and get a real job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8220;stay at home daughter&#8221; sounds very much like a &#8220;stay at home mother&#8221; except being a mother is a job and being a daughter usually isn&#8217;t (unless your aged parents need a lot of care). &#8220;Barefoot Bride&#8221; and &#8220;Lady-in-Waiting&#8221; seems to indicate she&#8217;s just waiting to get married and let her husband take care of her.</p>
<p>In other words, she&#8217;s unemployed and living at home. What if she was a man doing this? Would a man stay at his mom&#8217;s house waiting for some woman to come along and marry him, and call himself a &#8220;stay at home son&#8221;? Would he sit around writing a groom blog? </p>
<p>She&#8217;s just diverting attention away from herself so her parents won&#8217;t tell her to go out and get a real job.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly believe that many of the Christian fundies who are overtly critical of homosexuality almost invariably harbor secret homosexual/bisexual desires themselves.  Criticising other people who share their tendencies is often their attempt to exorcise their feelings of shame and to reinforce their denial.

Sometimes, however, they&#039;re simply heterosexual, ignorant and bitter.  :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly believe that many of the Christian fundies who are overtly critical of homosexuality almost invariably harbor secret homosexual/bisexual desires themselves.  Criticising other people who share their tendencies is often their attempt to exorcise their feelings of shame and to reinforce their denial.</p>
<p>Sometimes, however, they&#8217;re simply heterosexual, ignorant and bitter.  <img src='http://freethinker.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Broga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry.   Like you I loved that couldn&#039;t be gay as he was a christian.   My, my, they do show themselves to live in a weird, ignorant and cruel little world.    I suppose all those christian paedo-priests in Ireland could not be paedophiles; or vicious child beating brutes, nor could the the Christian nuns be no better than employers of child slaves in their laundries; nor the fundy pastors ripping off their flocks with TV appeals so they could live like millionaires etc.etc.etc....

Let me explain:   all wickedness is perpetrated by atheists; all goodness is done by christians.   An atheist who does good is &quot;really a christian as he/she will discover.   A christian who vistits the most appalling agony on children is &quot;not a true christian.&quot;

Not too difficult, now, is it?   And so very, very convenient for fundies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry.   Like you I loved that couldn&#8217;t be gay as he was a christian.   My, my, they do show themselves to live in a weird, ignorant and cruel little world.    I suppose all those christian paedo-priests in Ireland could not be paedophiles; or vicious child beating brutes, nor could the the Christian nuns be no better than employers of child slaves in their laundries; nor the fundy pastors ripping off their flocks with TV appeals so they could live like millionaires etc.etc.etc&#8230;.</p>
<p>Let me explain:   all wickedness is perpetrated by atheists; all goodness is done by christians.   An atheist who does good is &#8220;really a christian as he/she will discover.   A christian who vistits the most appalling agony on children is &#8220;not a true christian.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not too difficult, now, is it?   And so very, very convenient for fundies.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Duke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy, I think you might have posted your comment on the wrong blog. While some people have had some harsh words for her, no-one here that I can see has suggested that Little Miss Purity has a gay sweetheart.

As for your comment that her fiance could not be gay as he was a Christian, well, thanks for giving me my best laugh of the day. Google Pastor Ted Haggard if you have a moment to spare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy, I think you might have posted your comment on the wrong blog. While some people have had some harsh words for her, no-one here that I can see has suggested that Little Miss Purity has a gay sweetheart.</p>
<p>As for your comment that her fiance could not be gay as he was a Christian, well, thanks for giving me my best laugh of the day. Google Pastor Ted Haggard if you have a moment to spare.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Rebekah did the right thing, Whether you agree with her or not, she simply stated her beliefs and stood by them as 200+ people cursed her and virtually spat on her beliefs. Yes, she still lives at home, and what not, think of that what you will, but she is doing what anyone would do, deciding what she believes, and sticking to it, even if you don&#039;t agree. This talk of her fiance being gay is pointless though. Yes, he is involved in drama and he does teach ballroom, but not everyone that does drama or teaches ballroom is gay. So I think those who made those comments are simply not helping their cause. IF you wanted to help the cause the most, don&#039;t you think you&#039;d form your thoughts, rid them of emotional statements, and then, in a manner that is respectful, submit your disagreement and then offer to have her contact you if she wanted to speak further? At least, that is what I would do. I bet it would give more credibility than cursing or simply making stuff up about her or her fiance would do.
If you look at their website, clearly he is Christian, as is she, how could he be gay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Rebekah did the right thing, Whether you agree with her or not, she simply stated her beliefs and stood by them as 200+ people cursed her and virtually spat on her beliefs. Yes, she still lives at home, and what not, think of that what you will, but she is doing what anyone would do, deciding what she believes, and sticking to it, even if you don&#8217;t agree. This talk of her fiance being gay is pointless though. Yes, he is involved in drama and he does teach ballroom, but not everyone that does drama or teaches ballroom is gay. So I think those who made those comments are simply not helping their cause. IF you wanted to help the cause the most, don&#8217;t you think you&#8217;d form your thoughts, rid them of emotional statements, and then, in a manner that is respectful, submit your disagreement and then offer to have her contact you if she wanted to speak further? At least, that is what I would do. I bet it would give more credibility than cursing or simply making stuff up about her or her fiance would do.<br />
If you look at their website, clearly he is Christian, as is she, how could he be gay?</p>
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		<title>By: H. Davids</title>
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		<dc:creator>H. Davids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t unnarural for Rebekah to still live at home, while it would have been more natural if she&#039;d married at the age many biblical girls did? She would have been the proud mother of at least six children by now!

As for the pope: I live in one of the &#039;certain countries&#039; he mentioned and nobody in his right mind here gives a hoot, as long as the Vatican doesn&#039;t start arming itself, and starts accusing other countries of producing weapons of gay destruction (WGD).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t unnarural for Rebekah to still live at home, while it would have been more natural if she&#8217;d married at the age many biblical girls did? She would have been the proud mother of at least six children by now!</p>
<p>As for the pope: I live in one of the &#8216;certain countries&#8217; he mentioned and nobody in his right mind here gives a hoot, as long as the Vatican doesn&#8217;t start arming itself, and starts accusing other countries of producing weapons of gay destruction (WGD).</p>
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		<title>By: Urmensch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Urmensch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 07:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I myself know many Christian people and while I don&#039;t hate them I am offended by their lifestyle choice.

Why do they have to keep throwing it in my face and continually trying to convert others to their lifestyle?

Not only that but they are always trying to recruit children, without whom the lifestyle would soon disappear.

I don&#039;t care what adults do in the privacy of their own homes or in private spaces where they can indulge their bizarre behaviour but don&#039;t come knocking on my door and telling me how much better my life would be if I would just ask Jesus into my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I myself know many Christian people and while I don&#8217;t hate them I am offended by their lifestyle choice.</p>
<p>Why do they have to keep throwing it in my face and continually trying to convert others to their lifestyle?</p>
<p>Not only that but they are always trying to recruit children, without whom the lifestyle would soon disappear.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care what adults do in the privacy of their own homes or in private spaces where they can indulge their bizarre behaviour but don&#8217;t come knocking on my door and telling me how much better my life would be if I would just ask Jesus into my life.</p>
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		<title>By: gsw</title>
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		<dc:creator>gsw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 07:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lifestyle choice&quot; it is ... same as &quot;sex before marriage&quot; or marrige itsself. 

The Rebekahs of this world know perfectly well that sexual orientation is rarely a choice, however, like priests, one can choose to be publicly celibate (will privately doing what they want).  

I personally am deeply offended every time a women marries a man and gives up her identity to become Mrs John Smith. Any chance we can pass an amendment forbidding it? 

We could say it is against Gaia&#039;s Will because it makes polyandry impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lifestyle choice&#8221; it is &#8230; same as &#8220;sex before marriage&#8221; or marrige itsself. </p>
<p>The Rebekahs of this world know perfectly well that sexual orientation is rarely a choice, however, like priests, one can choose to be publicly celibate (will privately doing what they want).  </p>
<p>I personally am deeply offended every time a women marries a man and gives up her identity to become Mrs John Smith. Any chance we can pass an amendment forbidding it? </p>
<p>We could say it is against Gaia&#8217;s Will because it makes polyandry impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: OurSally</title>
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		<dc:creator>OurSally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 06:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A stay-at-home daughter is probably a girl who really loves her daddy. Plenty of examples in the Bible for that.

Or maybe she&#039;s just ugly as sin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A stay-at-home daughter is probably a girl who really loves her daddy. Plenty of examples in the Bible for that.</p>
<p>Or maybe she&#8217;s just ugly as sin?</p>
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		<title>By: Callisto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Callisto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 05:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect, Buffy, that a stay at home daughter, is a good clean-living young lady who devotes herself to Daddy...oooh...shades of a little incestuous fancy there? Daddy being the head of the household, as god is the head of everything, and she of course, bows to Daddy&#039;s wishes like a good submissive should. Christianity is the mindset of slavery and submission, of being submissive and obedient. 
The stupid Daddy&#039;s tart doesn&#039;t seem to think that HER lifestyle is offensive does she? Or that HER bloody opinions are what matters. Poor ickle little baby didums, got her knickers in a twist over two men in love...what a silly bunt...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect, Buffy, that a stay at home daughter, is a good clean-living young lady who devotes herself to Daddy&#8230;oooh&#8230;shades of a little incestuous fancy there? Daddy being the head of the household, as god is the head of everything, and she of course, bows to Daddy&#8217;s wishes like a good submissive should. Christianity is the mindset of slavery and submission, of being submissive and obedient.<br />
The stupid Daddy&#8217;s tart doesn&#8217;t seem to think that HER lifestyle is offensive does she? Or that HER bloody opinions are what matters. Poor ickle little baby didums, got her knickers in a twist over two men in love&#8230;what a silly bunt&#8230;</p>
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