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	<title>Comments on: Turkish girl&#8217;s punishment for talking to boys was to be buried alive by relatives</title>
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		<title>By: Miss TR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss TR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 00:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please Do not attribute this madness to all of Turkey, and do not use the EU card based on this horrible incident. This is a Kurdish tribal custom, not Turkish.Kurdish are refusing to be educated despite there are lots of organizations trying to help them.. The Kurds,that most of the EU countries support againist Turkey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please Do not attribute this madness to all of Turkey, and do not use the EU card based on this horrible incident. This is a Kurdish tribal custom, not Turkish.Kurdish are refusing to be educated despite there are lots of organizations trying to help them.. The Kurds,that most of the EU countries support againist Turkey!</p>
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		<title>By: Ameer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ameer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Valdemar You talk about islam being the women killer, i advise you to seek some knowledge since you speak without it.
If you did know about islam you wouldn&#039;t be saying what you are at the moment because their are 1.5Billion muslims around the world and it is also the fastest growing religion, so you expect 1.5Billion people to be bogus [i think not].
Next time do your research before you shame yourself on a pubic website :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Valdemar You talk about islam being the women killer, i advise you to seek some knowledge since you speak without it.<br />
If you did know about islam you wouldn&#8217;t be saying what you are at the moment because their are 1.5Billion muslims around the world and it is also the fastest growing religion, so you expect 1.5Billion people to be bogus [i think not].<br />
Next time do your research before you shame yourself on a pubic website <img src='http://freethinker.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: valdemar</title>
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		<dc:creator>valdemar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t we start calling this &#039;faith killing&#039;, because there&#039;s no honour to be found among such people. Honour - by any reasonable definition - is not about covertly murdering your daughters by burying them alive. 

As for the tired old claim that this is &#039;not really about religion, just culture&#039;, isn&#039;t that a classic example of having your cake and eating it? 

Islam seems to be &#039;the woman-killer that&#039;s never there&#039;, a kind of gynocidal Macavity. It&#039;s never to blame for cases like this - dear me, no. But, mysteriously enough, Islam becomes central to people&#039;s cultural identity when it&#039;s politically and financially convenient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t we start calling this &#8216;faith killing&#8217;, because there&#8217;s no honour to be found among such people. Honour &#8211; by any reasonable definition &#8211; is not about covertly murdering your daughters by burying them alive. </p>
<p>As for the tired old claim that this is &#8216;not really about religion, just culture&#8217;, isn&#8217;t that a classic example of having your cake and eating it? </p>
<p>Islam seems to be &#8216;the woman-killer that&#8217;s never there&#8217;, a kind of gynocidal Macavity. It&#8217;s never to blame for cases like this &#8211; dear me, no. But, mysteriously enough, Islam becomes central to people&#8217;s cultural identity when it&#8217;s politically and financially convenient.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the story on the International Coalition Against Honour Killings website, where I also saw something  any of us wanting to stop such shit might want to know.
IKWRO, an organisation based in London which works to help women and girls who speak Kurdish, Farsi, Dari, Turkish and Arabic in the UK, runs the ICAHK website, deals with thousands of calls every year and offers advocacy and advice in cases of domestic violence, forced marriage and &#039;honour&#039;-based violence (HBV).
Sadly, while receiving praise from the police and the Forced Marriage Unit (FMU), it heard in late December it is doubly a victim of funding cuts. Firstly, a grant for a Kurdish outreach worker was not renewed by the FMU, and secondly, the UK government, in breach of its own agreement, rescinded a grant for campaign workers after it had been granted.
The &#039;Honour Network Helpline&#039; (a project by Karma Nirvana, which operates with IKWRO&#039;s collaboration) may also have to restrict services and may even close due to lack of support . 
http://www.stophonourkillings.com/?q=node/4081 is the link if you want to know more. 
You can also link to petitions protesting what sounds awfully like decent folk being put out of business due to private talks between government and faith-bigoted QUANGOs whoâ€™d like the cash themselves for more evangelising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the story on the International Coalition Against Honour Killings website, where I also saw something  any of us wanting to stop such shit might want to know.<br />
IKWRO, an organisation based in London which works to help women and girls who speak Kurdish, Farsi, Dari, Turkish and Arabic in the UK, runs the ICAHK website, deals with thousands of calls every year and offers advocacy and advice in cases of domestic violence, forced marriage and &#8216;honour&#8217;-based violence (HBV).<br />
Sadly, while receiving praise from the police and the Forced Marriage Unit (FMU), it heard in late December it is doubly a victim of funding cuts. Firstly, a grant for a Kurdish outreach worker was not renewed by the FMU, and secondly, the UK government, in breach of its own agreement, rescinded a grant for campaign workers after it had been granted.<br />
The &#8216;Honour Network Helpline&#8217; (a project by Karma Nirvana, which operates with IKWRO&#8217;s collaboration) may also have to restrict services and may even close due to lack of support .<br />
<a href="http://www.stophonourkillings.com/?q=node/4081" rel="nofollow">http://www.stophonourkillings.com/?q=node/4081</a> is the link if you want to know more.<br />
You can also link to petitions protesting what sounds awfully like decent folk being put out of business due to private talks between government and faith-bigoted QUANGOs whoâ€™d like the cash themselves for more evangelising.</p>
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		<title>By: Neuseline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neuseline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is perhaps more  the result  of  a cultural misguidance than religious. It makes me very angry and sad nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is perhaps more  the result  of  a cultural misguidance than religious. It makes me very angry and sad nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: Turkish_girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turkish_girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 11:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is not Turkish.She is Kurdish.In Turkey kurds are generally live in south eastern.these kinds of murders are done by kurds not Turks.And Our religion wants a Muslim not to kill a innocent human.This is not related with our religion.You are the rude ones. We dont need you.We dont need EU.We are enough for us.And Our Prophet(S.A.S)forbade these kinds of murders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is not Turkish.She is Kurdish.In Turkey kurds are generally live in south eastern.these kinds of murders are done by kurds not Turks.And Our religion wants a Muslim not to kill a innocent human.This is not related with our religion.You are the rude ones. We dont need you.We dont need EU.We are enough for us.And Our Prophet(S.A.S)forbade these kinds of murders.</p>
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		<title>By: Broadsword Calling Danny Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broadsword Calling Danny Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela_K
I saw that BBC report you linked us to. 
I watched it most of the way through but found its content too depressing after a while. After some thought depression got replaced by anger. We will not get koranimals like that to cease their activities through dialogue, argument and persuasion. They should met with force and removed from the planet. They cannot be reasoned or dealt with and will renege on any deals made. The Taliban do it and justify it in the name of their cause.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/011-taqiyya.htm

Kill them all before we are overrun by orcs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela_K<br />
I saw that BBC report you linked us to.<br />
I watched it most of the way through but found its content too depressing after a while. After some thought depression got replaced by anger. We will not get koranimals like that to cease their activities through dialogue, argument and persuasion. They should met with force and removed from the planet. They cannot be reasoned or dealt with and will renege on any deals made. The Taliban do it and justify it in the name of their cause.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/011-taqiyya.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.thereligionofpeace......aqiyya.htm</a></p>
<p>Kill them all before we are overrun by orcs.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela_K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela_K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 09:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where there is religion, women will suffer. 

You may be interested to see this BBC report: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8499578.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where there is religion, women will suffer. </p>
<p>You may be interested to see this BBC report: <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8499578.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wor.....499578.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stonyground</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stonyground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 09:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that barriejohn, I stand corrected.

Doris Tracey, yes religion is to blame, it poisons natural human sexuality and distorts really obvious moral questions. Obvious questions of right and wrong that no one but the devout could possibly come up with the incorrect answer to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that barriejohn, I stand corrected.</p>
<p>Doris Tracey, yes religion is to blame, it poisons natural human sexuality and distorts really obvious moral questions. Obvious questions of right and wrong that no one but the devout could possibly come up with the incorrect answer to.</p>
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		<title>By: barriejohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>barriejohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 08:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, in defence of the press, that this story has been on online sites for two days now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, in defence of the press, that this story has been on online sites for two days now!</p>
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