Comments on: Publisher faces charges in India over “blasphemous” image of smoking Jesus http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/02/28/publisher-faces-charges-in-india-over-%e2%80%9cblasphemous%e2%80%9d-image-of-smoking-jesus/ The voice of atheism since 1881 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:08:53 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jumile http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/02/28/publisher-faces-charges-in-india-over-%e2%80%9cblasphemous%e2%80%9d-image-of-smoking-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-29177 Jumile Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:00:14 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=11957#comment-29177 I wonder if they're angry because of portrayal of human "vices" or if it's really because they used the image to illustrate the word 'idol'? :) Talking about it going against the "spirit of religious tolerance" is pure cheek. Given the choice, they'd still have us all in chains and burning people at the stake. Just look how they reacted to "<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/its_a_goddamned_cracker.php" rel="nofollow">Crackergate</a>" I wonder if they’re angry because of portrayal of human “vices” or if it’s really because they used the image to illustrate the word ‘idol’? :)

Talking about it going against the “spirit of religious tolerance” is pure cheek. Given the choice, they’d still have us all in chains and burning people at the stake. Just look how they reacted to “Crackergate“

]]> By: Talitha http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/02/28/publisher-faces-charges-in-india-over-%e2%80%9cblasphemous%e2%80%9d-image-of-smoking-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-29175 Talitha Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:44:13 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=11957#comment-29175 Smoking is a Godly Pastime that even gets a mention in The Bible. Of course, it has to be American brand to be any good.......... Genesis 24:64 And Rebekah lifted up her eyes, and when she saw Isaac, she lighted off the camel. Cigarette Lighters have many uses too............. Joshua 15:18 And it came to pass, as she came unto him, that she moved him to ask of her father a field: and she lighted off her ass; and Caleb said unto her, What wouldest thou? Smoking is a Godly Pastime that even gets a mention in The Bible.
Of course, it has to be American brand to be any good……….

Genesis 24:64
And Rebekah lifted up her eyes, and when she saw Isaac, she lighted off the camel.

Cigarette Lighters have many uses too………….

Joshua 15:18
And it came to pass, as she came unto him, that she moved him to ask of her father a field: and she lighted off her ass; and Caleb said unto her, What wouldest thou?

]]> By: gsw http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/02/28/publisher-faces-charges-in-india-over-%e2%80%9cblasphemous%e2%80%9d-image-of-smoking-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-29174 gsw Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:08:31 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=11957#comment-29174 @uzza: I like your suggestion. Since theocrats offend me on a regular basis, we might be able to do something with what you propose. A form or neo-wicca/planet-worship. Rhea-dists or similar? Any form of soil-poisoning or environmental rape would of course be blasphemy. Then, just to ensure that we are taken seriously as a religion, a few laws that make no sense to anyone else: Burying dead bodies (Ugh!) everybody has to be cremated and the ashes spread in the rain forest. @uzza: I like your suggestion.

Since theocrats offend me on a regular basis, we might be able to do something with what you propose.
A form or neo-wicca/planet-worship. Rhea-dists or similar?

Any form of soil-poisoning or environmental rape would of course be blasphemy.

Then, just to ensure that we are taken seriously as a religion, a few laws that make no sense to anyone else:
Burying dead bodies (Ugh!) everybody has to be cremated and the ashes spread in the rain forest.

]]> By: Sgt. Obvious http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/02/28/publisher-faces-charges-in-india-over-%e2%80%9cblasphemous%e2%80%9d-image-of-smoking-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-29162 Sgt. Obvious Mon, 01 Mar 2010 00:55:35 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=11957#comment-29162 "What's the big deal?" "WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?" I'll tell you what the big deal is: He's depicted as drinking fucking BUDWEISER! All the crap we Americans get over our beer comes from those guys (well, MOST of the crap we get). The blasphemy comes from this guy's clear lack of taste buds. “What’s the big deal?” “WHAT’S THE BIG DEAL?” I’ll tell you what the big deal is: He’s depicted as drinking fucking BUDWEISER! All the crap we Americans get over our beer comes from those guys (well, MOST of the crap we get). The blasphemy comes from this guy’s clear lack of taste buds.

]]> By: Buffy http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/02/28/publisher-faces-charges-in-india-over-%e2%80%9cblasphemous%e2%80%9d-image-of-smoking-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-29154 Buffy Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:58:43 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=11957#comment-29154 What's the big deal? He drank wine in the Bible so who care's if he might sling back a brew or have a smoke? People need to get over this idolatry crap. What’s the big deal? He drank wine in the Bible so who care’s if he might sling back a brew or have a smoke? People need to get over this idolatry crap.

]]> By: Neuseline http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/02/28/publisher-faces-charges-in-india-over-%e2%80%9cblasphemous%e2%80%9d-image-of-smoking-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-29143 Neuseline Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:49:19 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=11957#comment-29143 This may not be quite an appropriate answer, but I wanted to share it with you. Apologies to those who know it: An atheist was walking through the woods. 'What majestic trees! 'What powerful rivers! 'What beautiful animals! He said to himself. As he was walking alongside the river, he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned to look. He saw a 7-foot grizzly bear charge towards him. He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing in on him. He looked over his shoulder again and the bear was even closer. He tripped and fell on the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but saw that the bear was right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw and raising his right paw to strike him... At that instant the Atheist cried out, 'Oh my God!' Time Stopped. The bear froze. The forest was silent. As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky. 'You deny my existence for all these years, teach others I don't exist and even credit creation to cosmic accident.' 'Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?' The atheist looked directly into the light, 'It would be hypocritical of me suddenly to ask you to treat me as a Christian now, but perhaps you could make the BEAR a Christian?' 'Very well,' said the voice. The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. And the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together, bowed his head and spoke: 'For what I am about to receive, may the Lord make me truly thankful, Amen.' This may not be quite an appropriate answer, but I wanted to share it with you. Apologies to those who know it:

An atheist was walking through the woods.

‘What majestic trees!
‘What powerful rivers!
‘What beautiful animals!
He said to himself.

As he was walking alongside the river, he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him.

He turned to look. He saw a 7-foot grizzly bear charge towards him.

He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing in on him.

He looked over his shoulder again and the bear was even closer.

He tripped and fell on the ground.

He rolled over to pick himself up but saw that the bear was right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw and raising his right paw to strike him…

At that instant the Atheist cried out,
‘Oh my God!’

Time Stopped.
The bear froze.
The forest was silent.

As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky.

‘You deny my existence for all these years, teach others I don’t exist and even credit creation to cosmic accident.’
‘Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?’

The atheist looked directly into the light, ‘It would be hypocritical of me suddenly to ask you to treat me as a Christian now, but perhaps you could make the BEAR a Christian?’

‘Very well,’ said the voice.

The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. And the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together, bowed his head and spoke:

‘For what I am about to receive, may the Lord make me truly thankful, Amen.’

]]> By: stoopidmonkey http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/02/28/publisher-faces-charges-in-india-over-%e2%80%9cblasphemous%e2%80%9d-image-of-smoking-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-29141 stoopidmonkey Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:56:43 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=11957#comment-29141 I am meeting Jesus in Amsterdam. We will share a Heineken and a vaporizer. I will let you know what we talked about IF he shows up. I am meeting Jesus in Amsterdam. We will share a Heineken and a vaporizer. I will let you know what we talked about IF he shows up.

]]> By: NeoWolfe http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/02/28/publisher-faces-charges-in-india-over-%e2%80%9cblasphemous%e2%80%9d-image-of-smoking-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-29136 NeoWolfe Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:06:57 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=11957#comment-29136 Is there a time in life when the most entertaining thing to do is sit back and laugh at the insanity of the human race? As contributers have already pointed out, Jesus probably looked more like an Egyptian than a cracker. I never read anything regarding his opinion about having a smoke, but, he being a traveler, one thing is for sure, that the only way to preserve water in goat skin bladders is in the form of wine. Pure water would go bad and rot the bladder as well. So, one can assume that Jesus probably didn’t ever have a cold brew, but damn sure drank his weight in wine. And since it was brought up, there are hundreds of Judeo-Christian writings that were not included in the King James Version of the bible, such as the writings of the Macabees and the Gnostics, because that version was commissioned to prove the “divine right of kings”. Yet, mental midgets believe it to be the one and only “inspired word of god”. Ignorance like that needs to be measured on the Richter scale. But, as long as we’re all quoting songs, why not Ozzy: “I’m just a rock and roll rebel, I’ll tell you no lies. They say I worship the Devil, they must be stupid or blind.” LOL NeoWolfe Is there a time in life when the most entertaining thing to do is sit back and laugh at the insanity of the human race? As contributers have already pointed out, Jesus probably looked more like an Egyptian than a cracker. I never read anything regarding his opinion about having a smoke, but, he being a traveler, one thing is for sure, that the only way to preserve water in goat skin bladders is in the form of wine. Pure water would go bad and rot the bladder as well. So, one can assume that Jesus probably didn’t ever have a cold brew, but damn sure drank his weight in wine.

And since it was brought up, there are hundreds of Judeo-Christian writings that were not included in the King James Version of the bible, such as the writings of the Macabees and the Gnostics, because that version was commissioned to prove the “divine right of kings”. Yet, mental midgets believe it to be the one and only “inspired word of god”. Ignorance like that needs to be measured on the Richter scale.

But, as long as we’re all quoting songs, why not Ozzy: “I’m just a rock and roll rebel, I’ll tell you no lies. They say I worship the Devil, they must be stupid or blind.” LOL

NeoWolfe

]]> By: Broga http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/02/28/publisher-faces-charges-in-india-over-%e2%80%9cblasphemous%e2%80%9d-image-of-smoking-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-29133 Broga Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:12:36 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=11957#comment-29133 sailor1031 Sorry, should have mentioned the KJV. Nothing else will do. As for bibles in other languages? Forget it. As it happens I was obliged, as a child to memorise chunks of the KJV including "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels............" bit and I never regretted that. The language is often wonderful - ignore the bits such god showing his arse for a reason I now forget - but you have to be careful. Say you admire much of the language and next thing you are identified as a crypto Christian. sailor1031 Sorry, should have mentioned the KJV. Nothing else will do. As for bibles in other languages? Forget it. As it happens I was obliged, as a child to memorise chunks of the KJV including “Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels…………” bit and I never regretted that. The language is often wonderful – ignore the bits such god showing his arse for a reason I now forget – but you have to be careful. Say you admire much of the language and next thing you are identified as a crypto Christian.

]]> By: Stonyground http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/02/28/publisher-faces-charges-in-india-over-%e2%80%9cblasphemous%e2%80%9d-image-of-smoking-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-29131 Stonyground Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:33:26 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/?p=11957#comment-29131 sailor1031, the Doobie Brothers have an apropriate line too, "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away". It is hard to believe that anyone can be so ignorant and stupid as to think that a book that is a compendium of writings the newest of which were written in the second century in the Middle East, was written in sixteenth century English. As for these perpetually offended goons, ImagineATeapot and uzza hit the nail, there are so many more important issues facing humanity and the world at large. sailor1031, the Doobie Brothers have an apropriate line too, “What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away”. It is hard to believe that anyone can be so ignorant and stupid as to think that a book that is a compendium of writings the newest of which were written in the second century in the Middle East, was written in sixteenth century English.

As for these perpetually offended goons, ImagineATeapot and uzza hit the nail, there are so many more important issues facing humanity and the world at large.

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