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	<title>Comments on: Muslim gangs are taking over UK prisons, a BBC investigation reveals</title>
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		<title>By: Tex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 07:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UK has a huge problem. 
I can see a civil war on the horizon, amazing to think widespread Muslim immigration didn&#039;t start until mid last century.

 Let&#039;s face it most of us white people see Islam as a throwback to the Flintstone era but it&#039;s not going to go away.

And the Flinstones will oneday storm the Starship Enterprise control deck. God help us when they get hands on the control levers.
 I feel sorry for your children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UK has a huge problem.<br />
I can see a civil war on the horizon, amazing to think widespread Muslim immigration didn&#8217;t start until mid last century.</p>
<p> Let&#8217;s face it most of us white people see Islam as a throwback to the Flintstone era but it&#8217;s not going to go away.</p>
<p>And the Flinstones will oneday storm the Starship Enterprise control deck. God help us when they get hands on the control levers.<br />
 I feel sorry for your children.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish the people of England wake up and see what is going on muslims only want you to hear what you want to hear, they say we are peaceful we love you. bollocks our socalled goverment and the one before are cowards, we never seen churchhill going to lick the ass of the germans the way our goverments licks the ass of muslims, O  its ok for muslims to rant kill non muslims, in front of the police also waving a banner with hitler was right on it. Am a catholic irish decent born in england and i love both countries but england gave my parents jobs and food i know they had it hard unstandable for being irish because of the troubles, but it didnt turn me into a IRA BOMBER so why do muslims think they most attack a country that feeds them ie uk  I  will stand with england against islam many muslims think england will be a walk over, they are sadly mistaken when it comes down to it every british person will unite against islam .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish the people of England wake up and see what is going on muslims only want you to hear what you want to hear, they say we are peaceful we love you. bollocks our socalled goverment and the one before are cowards, we never seen churchhill going to lick the ass of the germans the way our goverments licks the ass of muslims, O  its ok for muslims to rant kill non muslims, in front of the police also waving a banner with hitler was right on it. Am a catholic irish decent born in england and i love both countries but england gave my parents jobs and food i know they had it hard unstandable for being irish because of the troubles, but it didnt turn me into a IRA BOMBER so why do muslims think they most attack a country that feeds them ie uk  I  will stand with england against islam many muslims think england will be a walk over, they are sadly mistaken when it comes down to it every british person will unite against islam .</p>
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		<title>By: Beware the Islam -ists</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beware the Islam -ists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 04:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One will either convert to Islam or die.

Although most Muslim&#039;s would not kill someone themselves for being an &quot;infidel&quot; however, it&#039;s common for many &quot;moderate&quot; muslim&#039;s to agree with the idea.

Western life is not all immoral, but the Muslim&#039;s believe that it is. How dare they force their Sharia thoughts on anyone (or perhaps more accurate, Muhammeds thoughts given directly to him by God, I&#039;m supposed to believe that to get along with you people? That&#039;s crazy)

These people know how to take advantage of an open society, and they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One will either convert to Islam or die.</p>
<p>Although most Muslim&#8217;s would not kill someone themselves for being an &#8220;infidel&#8221; however, it&#8217;s common for many &#8220;moderate&#8221; muslim&#8217;s to agree with the idea.</p>
<p>Western life is not all immoral, but the Muslim&#8217;s believe that it is. How dare they force their Sharia thoughts on anyone (or perhaps more accurate, Muhammeds thoughts given directly to him by God, I&#8217;m supposed to believe that to get along with you people? That&#8217;s crazy)</p>
<p>These people know how to take advantage of an open society, and they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Kashif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kashif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let a Muslim make a comment too. I would like to know how much increase has been in the inmates since 2002. Because around 90% of the Muslim youth arrested in suspicion of terrorism allegation are found innocent. The trials are not open, Evidence is produced by secret agents rather than civilian witnesses.

I am very much certain that this war on terrorism is imperial agenda in name of eradicating but in fact spreading terrorism particularly in Muslim countries. The only solution for terrorism is transparent justice not War.

Why the problem of so called Muslim terrorism only started after the fall of the Soviet Union. I have heard the stories of secret agents first convincing the vulnerable youngsters to plan terrorist activities and then arresting them after the evidence is ready (in the US).

From above messages it is obvious that most of the people have reservation and hatred about Muslims/Islam. You should open eyes and read the evidence for yourself from the internet not from the controlled main stream media. 
Have you ever heard of a Pakistani British person being stabbed/killed. Probably, rarely in the UK media but it does appear in Pakistani news papers much more often. I challenge you guys there are many more Muslim and Asian  victims of unilateral racism and violent crimes than there are white people. I personally have been victim of crimes quite a few times.

I do not deny the fact that there are less number of criminals in Muslims. Particulary some people who come from poor background are more likely to be involved in these kind of activities which is worrying for us too. This however has nothing to do with the religion. I have to yet find a practising Muslim convicted of serious crime.

We love this country as much as any other British citizen. I personally pay my taxes happily and feel proud about it. 
Muslims are around 4% in England and perhaps around 8-10% in Europe. There is no other way, other than understanding each other with open minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let a Muslim make a comment too. I would like to know how much increase has been in the inmates since 2002. Because around 90% of the Muslim youth arrested in suspicion of terrorism allegation are found innocent. The trials are not open, Evidence is produced by secret agents rather than civilian witnesses.</p>
<p>I am very much certain that this war on terrorism is imperial agenda in name of eradicating but in fact spreading terrorism particularly in Muslim countries. The only solution for terrorism is transparent justice not War.</p>
<p>Why the problem of so called Muslim terrorism only started after the fall of the Soviet Union. I have heard the stories of secret agents first convincing the vulnerable youngsters to plan terrorist activities and then arresting them after the evidence is ready (in the US).</p>
<p>From above messages it is obvious that most of the people have reservation and hatred about Muslims/Islam. You should open eyes and read the evidence for yourself from the internet not from the controlled main stream media.<br />
Have you ever heard of a Pakistani British person being stabbed/killed. Probably, rarely in the UK media but it does appear in Pakistani news papers much more often. I challenge you guys there are many more Muslim and Asian  victims of unilateral racism and violent crimes than there are white people. I personally have been victim of crimes quite a few times.</p>
<p>I do not deny the fact that there are less number of criminals in Muslims. Particulary some people who come from poor background are more likely to be involved in these kind of activities which is worrying for us too. This however has nothing to do with the religion. I have to yet find a practising Muslim convicted of serious crime.</p>
<p>We love this country as much as any other British citizen. I personally pay my taxes happily and feel proud about it.<br />
Muslims are around 4% in England and perhaps around 8-10% in Europe. There is no other way, other than understanding each other with open minds.</p>
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		<title>By: Dinesh Patel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dinesh Patel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 10:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let&#039;s be honest, all the newspapers and articles about Islam are irrelevant... cause of the psuedo liberal fashionable left response to EVERYTHING any muslims does.... &quot;WHAT ABOUT CHRISTIANITY??&quot;

The same response, everytime, kills any argument and discussion.  And it&#039;s boring NOT controversial.  From that to the Crusades, Iquisition, Hitler, ....yadda yadda yadda....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#8217;s be honest, all the newspapers and articles about Islam are irrelevant&#8230; cause of the psuedo liberal fashionable left response to EVERYTHING any muslims does&#8230;. &#8220;WHAT ABOUT CHRISTIANITY??&#8221;</p>
<p>The same response, everytime, kills any argument and discussion.  And it&#8217;s boring NOT controversial.  From that to the Crusades, Iquisition, Hitler, &#8230;.yadda yadda yadda&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Duke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raj, you are an idiot. Hitler was not an atheist. The man himself wrote: 
&quot;I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord..&quot; As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, &lt;em&gt;Mein Kampf&lt;/em&gt;, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself. 
See  http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
If you can&#039;t post an intelligent comment, please stay away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raj, you are an idiot. Hitler was not an atheist. The man himself wrote:<br />
&#8220;I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord..&#8221; As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, <em>Mein Kampf</em>, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself.<br />
See  <a href="http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm</a><br />
If you can&#8217;t post an intelligent comment, please stay away.</p>
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		<title>By: OK</title>
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		<dc:creator>OK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@NeoWolfe
The Nazis weren&#039;t Catholic actually and were closer to pagan beliefs than catholicism,The Nazis were officially Athiests! Adolf Hitler was an athiest and so are and were many dictators and evil men Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, Fidel Castro,Mao-Tse-Tung,Kim-Il-Sung and even Saddam Hussein [He&#039;s not muslim before you ask]! The biggest problem in society isn&#039;t religion, the biggest problem human beings have and have always had is intolerance! Long before religion came, people were always trying to find differences to exploit in order to kill each other! And to be honest we really don&#039;t need an excuse to murder one another, We&#039;d do it anyway! Religion isn&#039;t the true evil, people are! You only have to read this blog to see all the &quot;kill the muslims&quot; and &quot;Sharia law&quot; comments and figure out even if the human race were all grey and followed the same beliefs, languages and costums and were all 5ft with no hair, eye colour or unique characteristics or even genetalia we still want to kill one another and label ourselves!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@NeoWolfe<br />
The Nazis weren&#8217;t Catholic actually and were closer to pagan beliefs than catholicism,The Nazis were officially Athiests! Adolf Hitler was an athiest and so are and were many dictators and evil men Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, Fidel Castro,Mao-Tse-Tung,Kim-Il-Sung and even Saddam Hussein [He's not muslim before you ask]! The biggest problem in society isn&#8217;t religion, the biggest problem human beings have and have always had is intolerance! Long before religion came, people were always trying to find differences to exploit in order to kill each other! And to be honest we really don&#8217;t need an excuse to murder one another, We&#8217;d do it anyway! Religion isn&#8217;t the true evil, people are! You only have to read this blog to see all the &#8220;kill the muslims&#8221; and &#8220;Sharia law&#8221; comments and figure out even if the human race were all grey and followed the same beliefs, languages and costums and were all 5ft with no hair, eye colour or unique characteristics or even genetalia we still want to kill one another and label ourselves!</p>
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		<title>By: british</title>
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		<dc:creator>british</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people are weak can only do things in gangs get them on there own and you will see them wet myselfs... But just shows islam not good its evil how can you call these peaceful people if they was good they would not be in prison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people are weak can only do things in gangs get them on there own and you will see them wet myselfs&#8230; But just shows islam not good its evil how can you call these peaceful people if they was good they would not be in prison.</p>
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		<title>By: Godless not gormless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godless not gormless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@NeoWolf

I can&#039;t agree that the catholic church, as vile as it is, would get away with the &quot;Spanish Inquisition all over again&quot;. The vast majority of ordinary catholics would never want this and the church would lose it&#039;s power base in no time as people left it in their droves or forced change. I don&#039;t think you can compare Europe now with the Europe of that time in any way.

Remember, our morals have moved on such a long way since those days, including the morals of many christians. It is, as you know, something which comes from our brains rather than religious teachings so most people today are far more advanced in terms of their moral standing than even god was in the good old days of the old testament.

Muslims are different because islam is different. There is, as I said, no consideration of right or wrong, only what is allowed or not and a lot of really bad stuff is allowed. It&#039;s also the case that their evil work of fiction tells them to physcally and violently defeat non believers and force islam on us all.

Because of this, most muslims still live in the barbaric past, never having moved on. Islam has caused islamic countries to stagnate and remain locked into the mindset of that 7th century barbarian, mo.

Let&#039;s also not forget that the same harsh treatments are dished out to people in islamic countries now, in the 21st century, as were dished out wat back in mo&#039;s day. We stopped burning people at the stake a long time ago and it would never be put up with now. islam and it&#039;s people have never changed so they can, will and do still carry out attrocites that muslims even now agree are acceptable.

Stoning people to death for adultery was obviously part of judaism as well as being adopted by islam. Was it part of christianity too? I don&#039;t know so I&#039;m asking but it&#039;s in the old testament isn&#039;t it? If you were to conduct a poll today amongst jews and christians, asking if adulterers should be stoned to death, the yes vote would be virtually, if not actually, nill. 

Not so long ago (last year I think) a poll was conducted in Pakistan where two of the questions asked were:

Do you think adulteres should be stoned to death?
Do you think apostacy should be punishable by death?

(Can&#039;t say I have the wording exactly correct but that was the jist of it) The yes vote on both was over 80%. I think that says a lot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@NeoWolf</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t agree that the catholic church, as vile as it is, would get away with the &#8220;Spanish Inquisition all over again&#8221;. The vast majority of ordinary catholics would never want this and the church would lose it&#8217;s power base in no time as people left it in their droves or forced change. I don&#8217;t think you can compare Europe now with the Europe of that time in any way.</p>
<p>Remember, our morals have moved on such a long way since those days, including the morals of many christians. It is, as you know, something which comes from our brains rather than religious teachings so most people today are far more advanced in terms of their moral standing than even god was in the good old days of the old testament.</p>
<p>Muslims are different because islam is different. There is, as I said, no consideration of right or wrong, only what is allowed or not and a lot of really bad stuff is allowed. It&#8217;s also the case that their evil work of fiction tells them to physcally and violently defeat non believers and force islam on us all.</p>
<p>Because of this, most muslims still live in the barbaric past, never having moved on. Islam has caused islamic countries to stagnate and remain locked into the mindset of that 7th century barbarian, mo.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s also not forget that the same harsh treatments are dished out to people in islamic countries now, in the 21st century, as were dished out wat back in mo&#8217;s day. We stopped burning people at the stake a long time ago and it would never be put up with now. islam and it&#8217;s people have never changed so they can, will and do still carry out attrocites that muslims even now agree are acceptable.</p>
<p>Stoning people to death for adultery was obviously part of judaism as well as being adopted by islam. Was it part of christianity too? I don&#8217;t know so I&#8217;m asking but it&#8217;s in the old testament isn&#8217;t it? If you were to conduct a poll today amongst jews and christians, asking if adulterers should be stoned to death, the yes vote would be virtually, if not actually, nill. </p>
<p>Not so long ago (last year I think) a poll was conducted in Pakistan where two of the questions asked were:</p>
<p>Do you think adulteres should be stoned to death?<br />
Do you think apostacy should be punishable by death?</p>
<p>(Can&#8217;t say I have the wording exactly correct but that was the jist of it) The yes vote on both was over 80%. I think that says a lot</p>
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		<title>By: Pervy Grin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pervy Grin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@NeoWolfe
The Nazis were not Catholic, or Christian of any sort.  They were into the occult and the ancient Norse gods, and considered Christianity to be a wimpy Jewish religion.  Your need for self-superiority and self-congratulation by drawing moral equiivalence between Christianity and Islam is obvious, as is your ignorance of religion and history in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@NeoWolfe<br />
The Nazis were not Catholic, or Christian of any sort.  They were into the occult and the ancient Norse gods, and considered Christianity to be a wimpy Jewish religion.  Your need for self-superiority and self-congratulation by drawing moral equiivalence between Christianity and Islam is obvious, as is your ignorance of religion and history in general.</p>
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