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	<title>Comments on: School textbooks malign the Religion of Peace, grizzles US Muslim group</title>
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		<title>By: Stonyground</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stonyground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can vouch for the fact that Dr. Harwood&#039;s Koran quote is genuine as I have read it. I did have a quick look to see if I could provide a reference but I&#039;m not sure that it is worth the trouble to dig it out, sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can vouch for the fact that Dr. Harwood&#8217;s Koran quote is genuine as I have read it. I did have a quick look to see if I could provide a reference but I&#8217;m not sure that it is worth the trouble to dig it out, sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: William Harwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Harwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I accept your explanation.  Now PLEASE quit while you are ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I accept your explanation.  Now PLEASE quit while you are ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: NeoWolfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>NeoWolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>harwood,

  Throughout my school years, all my friends and acquaintences addressed me by my surname.  And in this forum, everyone abbreviates, so try to get over it.

  I was not calling you a liar, but, any article you intend to publish will contain supporting bibliography.  I think if you want to prosecute islam as a religion of hate (let&#039;s be real, they all are), and make your case to the world, you should at least, quote the source of your translation.

  I called you &quot;harwood&quot;, and you called me &quot;jackass&quot;.  So, please don&#039;t make appeals to me based on etiquette.

NeoWolfe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>harwood,</p>
<p>  Throughout my school years, all my friends and acquaintences addressed me by my surname.  And in this forum, everyone abbreviates, so try to get over it.</p>
<p>  I was not calling you a liar, but, any article you intend to publish will contain supporting bibliography.  I think if you want to prosecute islam as a religion of hate (let&#8217;s be real, they all are), and make your case to the world, you should at least, quote the source of your translation.</p>
<p>  I called you &#8220;harwood&#8221;, and you called me &#8220;jackass&#8221;.  So, please don&#8217;t make appeals to me based on etiquette.</p>
<p>NeoWolfe</p>
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		<title>By: William Harwood</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/03/18/school-textbooks-malign-the-religion-of-peace-grizzles-us-muslim-group/comment-page-1/#comment-30226</link>
		<dc:creator>William Harwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Wolfe: As a North American, you cannot be unaware that addressing an individual by his last name is a calculated attempt to be offensive. I have no problem with persons who feel a need to be polite to the braindead. It is not my own policy, but that is a personal preference. Given the space available, your demand that I include footnotes in a posting to this site is unrealistic. I include all necessary citations in my articles and books. Are you suggesting that the Koran passages I cited are not really in there? It seems to me that you are trying to promote disinformation you do not believe yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Wolfe: As a North American, you cannot be unaware that addressing an individual by his last name is a calculated attempt to be offensive. I have no problem with persons who feel a need to be polite to the braindead. It is not my own policy, but that is a personal preference. Given the space available, your demand that I include footnotes in a posting to this site is unrealistic. I include all necessary citations in my articles and books. Are you suggesting that the Koran passages I cited are not really in there? It seems to me that you are trying to promote disinformation you do not believe yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too much wine last night*, I seem to have had the impression that Khawaja was the author.

* Thought for the morning: in how many countries would this actually make me worse than a terrorist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too much wine last night*, I seem to have had the impression that Khawaja was the author.</p>
<p>* Thought for the morning: in how many countries would this actually make me worse than a terrorist?</p>
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		<title>By: barriejohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>barriejohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m laughing my socks off here at Bob Hutton&#039;s latest outburst, Marcus:

&lt;i&gt;In keeping with the general trend of this evil country, as it plunges headlong into ever deeper levels of debauchery, atheism has become much more militant.&lt;/i&gt;

What can you say? At least the poor dear loves us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m laughing my socks off here at Bob Hutton&#8217;s latest outburst, Marcus:</p>
<p><i>In keeping with the general trend of this evil country, as it plunges headlong into ever deeper levels of debauchery, atheism has become much more militant.</i></p>
<p>What can you say? At least the poor dear loves us!</p>
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		<title>By: barriejohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>barriejohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use the term Mohammedan all the time, Broadsword, just to wind them up, and they ALWAYS take the bait! &lt;i&gt;&quot;We do not worship Mohammed&quot;&lt;/i&gt; is the standard reply, showing their very tenuous grasp of logic.  I seem to remember it being the word we always used in the 1950s with reference to them, and for some time after. Of course, what it does point out very nicely is the fact that they are followers of a mere man again, whatever they may claim, and that their religion is nowhere near as old as they like to think, as gsw so rightly says.

BTW I love that word&lt;i&gt; &quot;grizzles&quot;&lt;/i&gt;, Barry! Another one that you don&#039;t hear nearly enough these days!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use the term Mohammedan all the time, Broadsword, just to wind them up, and they ALWAYS take the bait! <i>&#8220;We do not worship Mohammed&#8221;</i> is the standard reply, showing their very tenuous grasp of logic.  I seem to remember it being the word we always used in the 1950s with reference to them, and for some time after. Of course, what it does point out very nicely is the fact that they are followers of a mere man again, whatever they may claim, and that their religion is nowhere near as old as they like to think, as gsw so rightly says.</p>
<p>BTW I love that word<i> &#8220;grizzles&#8221;</i>, Barry! Another one that you don&#8217;t hear nearly enough these days!!</p>
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		<title>By: Broadsword Calling Danny Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broadsword Calling Danny Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mohammedanism.

That&#039;s a word I&#039;ve not heard in a long time. I know Winston Churchill used it to describe islamists in Sudan around 1900.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mohammedanism.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a word I&#8217;ve not heard in a long time. I know Winston Churchill used it to describe islamists in Sudan around 1900.</p>
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		<title>By: gsw</title>
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		<dc:creator>gsw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Garlic: â€œMuslims have been in Europe for thousands of years.â€

Silly us, according to the lastest blurb, Mohammed was the &lt;i&gt;perfect&lt;/i&gt; muslim. But Allah has been around since he spit out the earth and people some 6000+ years ago. 

This is also one of the reasons they insist on being called &lt;b&gt;muslim&lt;/b&gt; rather than the earlier, more common &lt;b&gt;mohammedan&lt;/b&gt;, in an effort to make people believe that they have been around since the year dot (or -4000 CE).

Change a few text books, fluff over a few things, it works. 
Peoples memories are very short, try asking around when television was invented, or computers or cars. Lots of children cannot imagine that there was ever a time when they did not exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Garlic: â€œMuslims have been in Europe for thousands of years.â€</p>
<p>Silly us, according to the lastest blurb, Mohammed was the <i>perfect</i> muslim. But Allah has been around since he spit out the earth and people some 6000+ years ago. </p>
<p>This is also one of the reasons they insist on being called <b>muslim</b> rather than the earlier, more common <b>mohammedan</b>, in an effort to make people believe that they have been around since the year dot (or -4000 CE).</p>
<p>Change a few text books, fluff over a few things, it works.<br />
Peoples memories are very short, try asking around when television was invented, or computers or cars. Lots of children cannot imagine that there was ever a time when they did not exist.</p>
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		<title>By: NeoWolfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>NeoWolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>harwood,

  As I am a person who talks a lot of smack, I tend to cut a lot of slack, at risk of being hypocritical, but as a person who wishes to be addressed as &quot;doctor&quot;, your comments are conspicuously devoid of footnote links.  You quote muslim scripture without any form of verification of translation.  I hold the same disgust for muslims as I do christians, but at the end of the day, aren&#039;t the intellectuals revered because they actually have a legitimate verifiable point???

  I&#039;ve read your book reviews and they read alot like your posts.  A lot of &quot;brain amputees&quot;, etc.  I had heard Canadians were supremely polite, obviously another inaccurate stereotype.

NeoWolfe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>harwood,</p>
<p>  As I am a person who talks a lot of smack, I tend to cut a lot of slack, at risk of being hypocritical, but as a person who wishes to be addressed as &#8220;doctor&#8221;, your comments are conspicuously devoid of footnote links.  You quote muslim scripture without any form of verification of translation.  I hold the same disgust for muslims as I do christians, but at the end of the day, aren&#8217;t the intellectuals revered because they actually have a legitimate verifiable point???</p>
<p>  I&#8217;ve read your book reviews and they read alot like your posts.  A lot of &#8220;brain amputees&#8221;, etc.  I had heard Canadians were supremely polite, obviously another inaccurate stereotype.</p>
<p>NeoWolfe</p>
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