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A pair of Muslim tits in Saudi Arabia want women to breast-feed adult males

JUST when you thought stupidity had reached its pinnacle in the mad world of Islam, along comes a report that two “powerful Saudi clerics” have advised women to give their breast milk to male colleagues and acquaintances in order to avoid breaking strict Islamic law forbidding mixing between the sexes.

They are at odds, however, over precisely how the milk should be delivered.

A fatwa issued recently about adult breast-feeding to establish “maternal relations” and preclude the possibility of sexual contact has resulted in a week’s worth of newspaper headlines in Saudi Arabia. Some have found the debate so bizarre that they’re calling for stricter regulations about how and when fatwas should be issued.

Sheikh Abdul Mohsen Bin Nasser Al Obeikan

Sheikh Abdul Mohsen Bin Nasser Al Obeikan, an adviser to the royal court and consultant to the Ministry of Justice, set off a firestorm of controversy recently when he said on TV that women who come into regular contact with men who aren’t related to them ought to give them their breast milk so they will be considered relatives.

Al Obeikan said:

The man should take the milk, but not directly from the breast of the woman. He should drink it and then becomes a relative of the family, a fact that allows him to come in contact with the women without breaking Islam’s rules about mixing.

Obeikan said the fatwa applied to men who live in the same house or come into contact with women on a regular basis, except for drivers.

Al Obeikan, who made the statement after being asked on TV about a 2007 fatwa issued by an Egyptian scholar about adult breast-feeding, said that the breast milk ought to be pumped out and given to men in a glass.

But his remarks were followed by an announcement by another high-profile sheik, Abi Ishaq Al Huwaini, who said that men should suckle the breast milk directly from a woman’s breast.

Shortly after the two sheiks weighed in on the matter, a bus driver in the country’s Eastern Region reportedly told one of the female teachers whom he drives regularly that he wanted to suckle milk from her breast. The teacher has threaten to file a lawsuit against him.

The fatwa stems from the tenets of the strict Wahhabi version of Islam that governs modern Saudi Arabia and forbids women from mixing with men who are not relatives. They are also not allowed to vote, drive or even leave the country without the consent of a male “guardian.”

Under Islamic law, women are encouraged to breast-feed their children until the age of 2. It is not uncommon for sisters, for example, to breast-feed their nephews so they and their daughters will not have to cover their faces in front of them later in life. The custom is called being a “breast milk sibling.”

Blogger Eman Al Nafjan wrote on her website:

The whole issue just shows how clueless men are. All this back and forth between sheiks and not one bothers to ask a woman if it’s logical, let alone possible to breastfeed a grown man five fulfilling breast milk meals. Moreover, the thought of a huge hairy face at a woman’s breast does not evoke motherly or even brotherly feelings. It could go from the grotesque to the erotic but definitely not maternal.

Al Nafjan said many in the country were appalled by the fatwa.

We have many important issues that need discussing. It’s ridiculous to spend time talking about adult breast-feeding.

Khamisa Mohammed Sawadi

Unlawful mixing between the sexes is taken very seriously in Saudi Arabia. In March 2009, a 75-year-old Syrian widow, Khamisa Mohammed Sawadi, living in the city of Al-Chamil, was given 40 lashes and sentenced to six months in prison after the religious police learned that two men who were not related to her were in her house, delivering bread to her.

One of the two men found in her house, Fahd, told the police that Sawadi breast-fed him as a baby so he was considered a son and had a right to be there. But in a later court ruling, a judge said it could not be proved that Fahd was her “breast milk son.” Fahd was sentenced to four months in prison and 40 lashes, and the man who accompanied him got six months and 60 lashes.

The original adult breast-feeding fatwa was issued three years ago by an Egyptian scholar at Egypt’s al-Azhar University, considered Sunni Islam’s top university. Ezzat Attiya was expelled from the university after advocating breast-feeding of men as a way to circumnavigate segregation of the sexes in Egypt. A year ago, Attiya was reinstated to his post.

31 Responses to “A pair of Muslim tits in Saudi Arabia want women to breast-feed adult males”

  1. Justin says:

    It really is bizarro world over there. This irrational fear of the mixing of sexes really does create some strange ideas/solutions to this imagined problem.

    That second image is really creepy. It looks like Emperor Palpatine!

  2. gsw says:

    It also tends to assume that women are like milch-cows. .

    What about those women who have not just had a baby, should they immediately be impregnated – and kept in purdah until it flows again?

    (I suspect that these men have absolutely no idea about female physiology, menstrual cycles or babies.)

  3. Al says:

    You really couldn’t make it up.

    Oh wait, they do.

    The bus driver won’t be the only sexually stunted fuzzface who wants a go.

  4. sun says:

    Disgusting!!

  5. Har Davids says:

    Is this the winner of the 2010 Fatwa Award? So many contestants and so much creativity!

    Go to jesusandmo.net and search for ‘crying’.

  6. barriejohn says:

    As practically every Tom, Dick and Ahmed seems to be authorized to issue fatwahs just when they feel like it, can I issue one of my own ordering all brain-dead muslim fanatics to shut the fuck up!

  7. Graham Martin-Royle says:

    This again shows the stupidity of this religion and how desperate they are to get round the restrictions it imposes on their everyday lives. What if they have an enormous milk bank to which every woman contributes and every man drinks from? Then they will all be related and they can mix freely. Well, it’s no more stupid an idea than what these dopey idiots are proposing.

  8. barriejohn says:

    Is this the one to which you refer, Har Davids?

    http://www.jesusandmo.net/?s=crying&key=transcript

    I can assure these ignoramuses that there is plenty of evidence on the internet of “sexual contact” between couples who have shared breast milk, which sort of takes away the main plank of their argument! This learned man should be able to point them in the right direction, as HE knows where all the best internet porn is to be found!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w

  9. MrGronk says:

    All the evidence you need that religion is simply mental illness with privileges.

  10. Angela_K says:

    MrGonk, talking of privileges, it seems some prisoners are converting to islam to gain some perks; this is what happens when the religious are indulged.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article7145784.ece

  11. Marcus says:

    Talk about warped logic!

    This is all about finding ways around their archaic, retarded rules (bit like catholics and the rhythm method of contraception). And even though they might, by moronic means, find a way to get/do what they want (you know, normal everyday stuff like being in the same house as someone of the opposite sex) and also keep their moral conscience clear, the end result is still the same – the rules have been contravened.

    So, if it’s okay to contravene them why not just get rid of the feckin’ rules?

  12. barriejohn says:

    Marcus: That would be far too simple! I remember my shock many years ago, as I have said before, upon learning that the Jews in Manchester would tie a piece of string around all the houses in their neighbourhood on a Thursday evening, so as to con their “God” into thinking that they were not actually leaving their own house when they visited their friends on the Sabbath. As you say: Why have the stupid rule in the first place?

  13. AngieRS says:

    Barmey, totally barmy.

  14. Serai says:

    Yet again these morons fail to distinguish between farm animals and women!

  15. Marcus says:

    @ barriejohn What I find so bizarre is that these religions are all about rules. At their very heart are endless litanies of dos and dont’s which actually describe the relationship between religiots and their gods, which define the very existence of those who believe and that shape the societies in which they live.

    And yet what do these nutters do? They try to find ways around the rules which, as you rightly point out, are intended to somehow con or hoodwink said deities. (And don’t forget, the people we are talking about here are actually the ones whose job it is to uphold and enforce the rules!)

    If, as they proclaim, their gods are all-seeing and all-knowing and can discern what goes on in the very depths of a person’s heart and soul, then who the feck do these morons think they are kidding? It is truly off the scale in terms of stupidity.

  16. ZombieHunter says:

    Yet more proof that celibate old men should not be giving out relationship advice.

  17. barriejohn says:

    Marcus: I think that, besides the obvious “control” aspect, rules give paranoid and inadequate people, who are full of self-doubt, the confidence that they are doing what their “God” wants of them, and thus pleasing (or at least, failing to offend) him/her/it. There has to be some reason why they are willing to let others control their lives down to almost the last detail, and seemingly welcome this intrusion!

  18. Broadsword says:

    If I give a woman some man-milk, does that make her related and have I committed incest? How do the clerics suggest my “gift” is delivered?
    I couldn’t resist lowering the tone.

  19. rog says:

    So by that logic if you were to drink a random anonymous multi donor milkshake you would be related to all of those women? Well if that’s the case all of the women should donate, all of the men should have a sip – problem solved forever!

  20. NeoWolfe says:

    Broadsword said:

    “I couldn’t resist lowering the tone.”

    Well, B., I’m not sure how we got derailed from breastmilk, but, as long as we are playing Jamaican Limbo, who can dance under the lowest bar, I accept your challenge.

    Bjohn posted a link about the fanatic that thinks that all gays fist fuck each other and eat each other’s shit. Well, I’ve seen a video where a straight guy gave himself a beer enima and then drank it. True story. I’ve seen shock videos of lesbians shitting on each other, eating it, and then french kissing. I watch South Park, but that was rough!!!

    My landlord in San Diego advertised in a local gay publication because he liked to give head. I met his whole circle of friends, and I liked them a lot. Not because I shared their orientation, but, because they are very tolerant people, and they accept you as you are.

    Last piece of information you did not want to know, my first wife gave me a rim job one night, and I was thinking, “that feels kinda cool,” but at the same time I was thinking, “if you think I’m returning the favor you’re insane!!!” Even though her ass was probably 10x cleaner than mine!!!

    Oh, yes, I went there.

    NeoWolfe 1

  21. NeoWolfe says:

    On topic: The two guys could have raped the geriatric milk cow, then the Islamists would have executed her, and let the two guys off the hook. They’ll know better next time. That prison time and the lashes will tune them up.

    NeoWolfe

  22. barriejohn says:

    I would just like to ask what sort of a “compassionate” religion hands out 40 lashes and a six-month prison sentence to a 75-year-old widow, just because two men are delivering bread to her home? Have I inadvertently strayed into an alternative universe here?

  23. FedupwithR says:

    It’s the 75 year old woman fate that has been in my thoughts. It made me remember a similar story that took place during the inquisition. A very elderly woman dragged from her sick bed, tortured then burnt as a witch. Now, in 2010 whippings and witches are in the news thanks to the fact that crazy belief systems are still around.

  24. barriejohn says:

    I’ve just come across this. Must be April the First again already!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1285365/Mother-produces-breast-milk-selling-online–15-ounces.html

  25. Sushmita says:

    and ‘THEY’ think they are doing some moral policing like this!! bunch of MORONS!!!

  26. Muslima says:

    hey i jus read da above article…it’s all BULLSHIT…im muslim..tho im not scholar but obviously bcuz it’s my religion so i knw abt islamic ruling…da above mentioned fatwaz are nothing more than a CRAP believe me…a woman can only feed her baby or other babies who are NOT more than 2.5 years old…above this age she is forbidden to feed even her own child…so this fatwa of “breast-feeding to adults” is Horendous Crime…infact a grave sin…jus like adultery/fornification…so i wud like to mention here tht…if you guys really want to know about WOT IS REAL ISLAM…thn please consult the Islamic Religious Scripture…”QURAN”…& Do NOT pay attention to such bullshits…Such fatwa has NOTHING to do wid Islam…May GOD guide us all towards da right path…Ameen) PEACE FOR ALL…

  27. H says:

    @Muslima, true indeed, these bloody muftiz dont even know the abc of religion, idiots!
    something like adult-breastfeeding is NON-existent in Islam! its HARAAM!

  28. Please don’t confuse Wahabism with Islam, these people follow a fanatical cult with fascist characteristics. The truly sad thing is, Saudi Arabia placed such troublesome people in charge of their religious establishment, which means Wahabism is actually the religion of Saudi Arabia, not Islam – There are some very clear and distinct differences between Wahabism and the authentic beliefs and traditions of Islam. Both Sunni and Shia scholars have repeatedly condemned Wahabism as a dangerous heresy.

    The idiots cited in this article should be sectioned, not advising anyone on matters of religion!

  29. Mobeen Zahid says:

    This has nothing to do with Islam, this is bullshit and both these scholars deserve to be in prison for presenting such an absurd idea and maligning the true face of Islam. Islam is the most rational, logical and humane way of life possible in this world. Anything that defies logic and is not humane is not part of Islam. End of story.