SELF-PROFESSED expert on all matters sexual – Stephen “Birdshit” Green – will be present at the launch this Friday of a parents’ forum on sex education in the London borough of Ealing.
Suzanne Fernandes
According to the meeting’s organiser – Suzanne Fernandes, a leading light in the Christian Party – the initiative will concentrate on Ealing Borough, but
There are principles at stake which apply to the whole of the UK … Protecting children’s innocence and demanding rights as a parent to be fully informed about the content of school sex and relationships education (SRE) will be on the agenda.
Fernandes, who polled a whopping 295 votes for the Christian Party in the Ealing constituency in the 2010 General Election, then asks:
Does it not concern you that the increasing use of ‘SRE’ to sexualise children, with condoms given out to 12-year-olds and school nurses giving abortion advice behind parents’ backs?
In addition, there is the growing trend to use the ‘relationships’ side of SRE, bolstered by the 2010 Equality Act, to groom children for sexual activities.
She earlier warned parents in Ealing that the cross-party supported Children, Schools and Families Bill marks a new phase in the government’s relentless quest to undermine parents and impose a new morality upon schoolchildren.
The materials children are being exposed to would horrify many parents, especially among the borough’s diverse faith communities. There are condoms being issued after so-called sex education classes.
Green, of Christian Voice fame, will be present to give attendees the benefit of his expertise. This is the cretin who, in 2007, declared:
Stephen 'Birdshit" Green (Photo Barry Duke)
The best way of not getting cervical cancer and genital warts is to stay a virgin and marry a virgin.
The meeting will also give attendees the opportunity to learn more about Pray for Schools Ealing, which is:
A partnership between CARE, Youth for Christ, Scripture Union, New Generation, Association of Christian Teachers and Churches Together England. Together these organisations promote Pray for Schools in their networks, and provide resources for Pray for Schools groups and events.
The Freethinker was founded in 1881 by GW Foote, an outspoken critic of religion. After the publication of 
July 13th, 2010 at 10:55 am
So would telling young girls not to eat apples in the company of boys lest the girls should get up the duff, be xtians nutters idea of sex education?
July 13th, 2010 at 11:10 am
The materials children are being exposed to would horrify many parents, especially among the borough’s diverse faith communities.
Goes without saying!
In addition, there is the growing trend to use the ‘relationships’ side of SRE, bolstered by the 2010 Equality Act, to groom children for sexual activities.
Libellous! Just shows what sick minds these perverts have!!
July 13th, 2010 at 11:11 am
I’m astonished there are 295 people in Easling who are just as moronic as this half-witted, god-bothering religiot. She and her equally deluded chums should be kept well away from anything remotely to do with children and education.
In fact the imposing of religious values on young people has to be one of the most concerning issues facing those of a secular disposition. Does anyone know if the NSS does anything to counter the encroachment of fundamentalism into schools? I couldn’t find anything on their website.
July 13th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Marcus: Have you seen this? The self-same sort of thing has been going on in British schools for years, and no one seems in the least concerned. Naive parents and governors think that these maniacs have the kids’ best interests at heart!
http://www.secularnewsdaily.co.....ds-school/
July 13th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Marcus – NSS has been and is active in opposing the negative religious influence in SRE – I hope this helps http://tinyurl.com/372wd9x.
July 13th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
barriejohn, I’m surprised nobody has pointed out the alternative view, that people keep children ignorant of sexual matters to make them easier to groom.
July 13th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Jim – many thanks for that link. I thought it was a really well-reasoned and argued paper and it’s good to see the NSS isn’t letting the religiots have it all their own way.
What we also need is some of the kind of thing barriejohn linked to. I think it’s a great idea to ‘name and shame’ faith groups that are trying to influence young people by stealth. At least the parents can then see what their kids are being exposed to.
July 13th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Keeping children “ignorant of sexual matters” is in Genesis (1. Moses)
Since they believe that it was Eve who decided that knowledge was better than ignorance, that we women should know ourselves and not just be told what to think and not to think, and did something about it, extra effort has been made to counter-act her actions.
Regardless of which version of an Abrahamic religion is followed, keeping unmarried people ignorant of sex, and girls ignorant of as much as they can get away with, has been a principle tenet of the faith.
If I believed in God or in the bible as truth, I would be celebrating Eve as the greatest hero of the last 6000 years.
I am not, so I just assume that once-upon-a-time, like Cassandra, there was a women who fought for our right to knowledge, and she should be lauded now.
July 13th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Sad thing is, CARE, SU and some of the others there are already in schools round my way, with the collusion of the godbotherers running local education.
It may be as much to do with saving cash as superstitious, semi-retired education ‘experts’ who know no better, but when there are education cutbacks on the way other parents reading this should be on the lookout in their area.
July 13th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
I just keep wondering, what makes these people feel qualified to call themselves experts? More to the point, what makes other people feel no need to challenge that assumption in a loud and ridiculing manner?
July 13th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Sorry to keep banging the same drum, but “free schools” are going to exacerbate the problem. Even if not set up by religious groups, “people of faith” are going to be doing their very best to get elected or co-opted as governors, as happens with state schools even now. I’ve mentioned the pernicious Association of Muslim Governors before now, but I happen to know that, even without the help of any national organization, the local vicar here is doing his level best to get Christian governors onto the boards of all local schools.
http://muslimgovernors.org/
July 13th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
They gave us SRE at age 13 in comprehensive school only they were called “Health Lessons” and included dietary advice too. There wasn’t a whole lot that surprised me other than the ignorance of some of my peers. Everyone attended these lessons as they were fascinated by their candid nature and all took something from them. You won’t stop kids fumbling but at least you can keep most out of trouble if you teach them right.
What does Birdshit Green know about sex? He’s been shagging the same bird once a month his entire married life. Missionary position, lights out then two pumps and a squirt. Then go flaggelate yourself if you enjoyed it. Doesn’t have the look of a porn stud about him does he?
July 13th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Harry. Children denied knowledge are vulnerable and malleable but when the juices start flowing and they have to face the world the problems escalate. And if these parents think they can control what their kids learn and hear they are living in a fantasy. Peer groups are vastly influential. What we are seeing in Ealing are prissy, emotionally stunted religious bigots inflicting on their kids, and everyone elses if possible, the warping effects of their crazy beliefs.
Guilt, shame, secrecy results and they merely drive their kids into deceits as they attempt to explore the sexual drives which they cannot repress and for which mature explanations are denied them. This is child abuse.
July 13th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
These people believe in talking snakes, zombies walking the streets, all kinds of unnatural activities like walking on water, and we’re supposed to take them seriously on ANYTHING?
July 13th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Even Jesus was ignorant:
http://www.somethingwonderfulc.....ight-hand/
July 13th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Well, I hope a passing shrink looks in on them, he might think that its a mass escape from Broadmoor and get the whole lot banged up.
July 13th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
The Sword said.
What does Birdshit Green know about sex? He’s been shagging the same bird once a month his entire married life.
Once a month eh! Where do I sign up?
July 13th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
I’ve just realised. Once more we’re discussing the sexual hangups of religiots. Other people’s sex lives are not their business. I don’t care if Green’s wife likes to dress as Satan and do him with a strap-on. “Hey man, whatever floats your boat” is a phrase they ought to learn.
July 13th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
At last, as area of imbecility in which devotees of Allah and Yahweh (who, unbeknown to the respective supplicants, are one and the same sun-fairy, of course) draw level – allowing the rest of us to be nice and egalitarian in our disdain. Mind you, the Stoke Guideliners technically got there first: “Whilst fasting, Muslims are not permitted to engage in any sexual relations and are expected to take measures to avoid sexual thoughts and discourse. Schools are therefore advised to avoid scheduling the teaching of sex and relationship education, including aspects that are part of the science curriculum, during Ramadan.”
July 13th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
The problem with relidiots is, that they are on a mission from ‘god’, who wants them to save every soul there is, even though you just sold yours to Satan. It means to them they have a duty to save us from ourselves and our kids from us. If they claimed to receive their orders from the pink unicorn, nobody would take them seriously, but they mention ‘god’, so we’d better listen, according to some politicians.
July 13th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Read what the Suzane girl says and you get the idea of the real fear of these people.
Ya the thought of enjoying SEX is a terror to them that don’t, but that is not the main feature.
What does it say about their parenting/teaching skills when their kids go somewhere else to learn about sex and then go to someone else for advice on abortion. Their own kids are telling them through their actions that ‘YOU ARE ROTTEN PARENTS!! and I have to go to others for help’. The parents are metaphorically being slapped in the face.
And that really pisses them off! As if legally forcing their kids to talk to them will do any good.
July 13th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
The ideal of the Fathers of the Church, including the seriously disturbed Paul, is virginity. Marriage, “it is better to marry than to burn” is a poor second best. Untold thousands of marriages, families, have been wrecked by these crazies. Wives encouraged not to have sex and, in many cases, to abandon their family and become nuns.
Origen cut his balls off to stop his erections; one loony dipped his clothes in the decaying body of a dead woman so that the stench would repel him; young women destined for a satisfying family life were deflected into nunneries. And so it goes on. Biblical bollocks written in crap Greek and later greatly improved by Erasmus was regarded as the word of God. I liked Erasmus reply to the accusation that he had changed the Greek which was the word of god: “Are we to believe that God wrote such very poor Greek?”
That is so. The Church decided that the original, complete with poor grammar and additions, was the authoritive version and one poor devil was roasted alive for quoting Erasmus. Note: not the “true” version; the “authoritive” version. Authority is all. The Pope calls the shots even if they are lies.
And out of this slew of nonsense comes the elevation of virginity to the ultimate state.
July 13th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Quite right, Broga. It’s the Textus Receptus that is regarded as the Word of God, whatever new documents may turn up now, or whatever new light is shone upon the ancient languages of the Bible! Just have a look at this load of bollocks, and you will realize just how primitive and ill-informed are the views of evangelical “scholars”:
Please don’t be deceived, the King James Bible is God’s preserved AND INSPIRED Words. The King James Bible is a divinely preserved translation of the inspired Words of God and is therefore also INSPIRED! I just don’t understand how anyone could say that the King James Bible is not inspired, while believing that it was translated from inspired texts. It pains me greatly to hear a pastor denying the inspiration of the beloved King James Bible.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com.....effect.htm
“If the Authorized Version was good enough for The Apostle Paul then it’s good enough for me!!”
July 13th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
barriejohn. It is extraordinary, to me anyway, that these fundamentalists would accept something as important to their lives without at least some research into what they were accepting. You mention the King James Version entirely appropriately as that is what many Christians accept as the real word of god: do not accept counterfeits, they might say. In the KJ version of St John’s Gospel begins: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” Now, what the hell does that mean. It is gobblegook prated out so many times that no thought is given to whether it means anything.
The Gospels were written in Greek and the word “logos” is translated as “word.” A better translation would be “reason” or “rational order” and indeed other meanings. To say that “rational order” and God is “reason” and this is a definition of God makes sense. However, the gooblegook cannot be changed even thought it is nonsense. Not only that, the last thing they want is to evoke reason. Next step and they are atheists.
July 13th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Betty Bowers explains Christian Marriage here. This video might prove enlightening to these people and their offspring!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw
July 14th, 2010 at 1:52 am
gsw said:
“Since they believe that it was Eve who decided that knowledge was better than ignorance, that we women should know ourselves and not just be told what to think and not to think”
Indeed, I used the same tools to escape my brainwash. That when examined with an open mind, the “lies” that satan told were all true, and the threats that god made were all empty. Eve supposedly cost us our immortality, but, what kind of fool thinks that humans were ever exempt from the cycle of nature? I’d love to hear the testimony of the homo-sapiens that lived in Africa about 94,000 years before Adam.
Anyway, at 16 years of age, I forced my son to buy some condoms at a convenience store. The excercise was to show him that the clerk of any store doesn’t give a damn. He’ll ring up condoms like he rings up a candy bar. I made him pay for them.
I did this because I know that no moral code will ever overcome the chemical drive of hormones. Teens will fuck no matter what you do. I know, I was a father at seventeen. All you can do as a parent is to hopefully prevent it from being a lifechanging event. It was for me, but it doesn’t have to be for my children.
It’s common sense, of which religion has no grasp or conception.
NeoWolfe
July 14th, 2010 at 2:41 am
Do these people not remember being children? By the time I received sex-ed (at 11 or 12 as I remember), the whole class already ‘knew’ the basic mechanics, so to speak. We’d known amongst ourselves, by rumour spread amongst presumably ‘innocent’ (not having yet had the lessons) children, for two or three years by then.
I saw a girl the other day, must have been 8, maybe 9, years old at the most, wearing a t-shirt with the slogan ‘tart in training,’ and that kind of thing is hardly unusual these days. Seems if they want to address the sexualising of children they need to look at the parents, not the schools. But then, that would take work not just rhetorical nonsense. And of course, parents with no political reputation to protect might tell them exactly what they think of them …
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