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	<title>Comments on: Riots follow the shooting of Pakistani Christians accused of blasphemy</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I literally cannot imagine being so fired up by any â€œideaâ€ that I would kill for it. Donâ€™t get me wrong, Iâ€™m sure I could do the deed in defence of self, loved ones, etc., wouldnâ€™t hesitate â€“ I hope. But for an idea! And so silly an idea as the reputation of my big friend/slavemaster in the sky! I cannot get that headset on. The rational part of my brain wouldnâ€™t let my emotions go that way. I confess: I&#039;m different (apparently, and with certificates that appear to prove it, let alone the evidence of my actions, in, for instance, never having killed another motorist with different ideas about the Highway Code).

On that basis, I guess it could become reasonable to consider seriously that dangerous old question of comparative intelligence. Isnâ€™t it a fair question to ask how the hell (no pun intended) anyone with a mind that functions above a certain level â€“ power of speech, ratiocination, not barking at the moon â€“ can get into a murderous state. Even given the power of mass-hysteria, you still have to reckon that the mass is composed of individuals apparently separated from the â€œlower ordersâ€ (not necessarily my phrase) by an IQ that goes left of the single Units column.

The question then is why this can happen with depressing regularity amongst a bunch of people defined by â€“ here we go â€“ geography / culture / religion. Whatâ€™s going on? If we canâ€™t talk of comparative intelligence, we have to resort to the negative of that scale, I suppose: consider degrees of stupidity (usefully defined above) as evidenced by actions and attitudes amongst statistically-significant cohorts delineated by observable common factors. And those factors areâ€¦ (er, Discuss)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I literally cannot imagine being so fired up by any â€œideaâ€ that I would kill for it. Donâ€™t get me wrong, Iâ€™m sure I could do the deed in defence of self, loved ones, etc., wouldnâ€™t hesitate â€“ I hope. But for an idea! And so silly an idea as the reputation of my big friend/slavemaster in the sky! I cannot get that headset on. The rational part of my brain wouldnâ€™t let my emotions go that way. I confess: I&#8217;m different (apparently, and with certificates that appear to prove it, let alone the evidence of my actions, in, for instance, never having killed another motorist with different ideas about the Highway Code).</p>
<p>On that basis, I guess it could become reasonable to consider seriously that dangerous old question of comparative intelligence. Isnâ€™t it a fair question to ask how the hell (no pun intended) anyone with a mind that functions above a certain level â€“ power of speech, ratiocination, not barking at the moon â€“ can get into a murderous state. Even given the power of mass-hysteria, you still have to reckon that the mass is composed of individuals apparently separated from the â€œlower ordersâ€ (not necessarily my phrase) by an IQ that goes left of the single Units column.</p>
<p>The question then is why this can happen with depressing regularity amongst a bunch of people defined by â€“ here we go â€“ geography / culture / religion. Whatâ€™s going on? If we canâ€™t talk of comparative intelligence, we have to resort to the negative of that scale, I suppose: consider degrees of stupidity (usefully defined above) as evidenced by actions and attitudes amongst statistically-significant cohorts delineated by observable common factors. And those factors areâ€¦ (er, Discuss)</p>
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		<title>By: barriejohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>barriejohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve watched many documentaries about the undeveloped world, so I am well aware of the corruption which pervades much of their public life (not that Europe is squeaky clean there, BTW!), but it does appear that the regular police are the only thing that stands between many people and total chaos. The &quot;thought police&quot; are a separate entity entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve watched many documentaries about the undeveloped world, so I am well aware of the corruption which pervades much of their public life (not that Europe is squeaky clean there, BTW!), but it does appear that the regular police are the only thing that stands between many people and total chaos. The &#8220;thought police&#8221; are a separate entity entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If everyone gave up their religions we wouldn&#039;t have people fighting over whose imaginary friend is the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If everyone gave up their religions we wouldn&#8217;t have people fighting over whose imaginary friend is the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Godless not gormless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godless not gormless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barriejohn

It&#039;s nice of you to think highly of the pakistani police force, but I don&#039;t think they&#039;re quite as &#039;heroic&#039;as you think. They&#039;re muslims too, and do very little to help those attacked by fellow muslims. They all stand by one another as we know and they&#039;re pretty much all alike when it comes right down to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barriejohn</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice of you to think highly of the pakistani police force, but I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re quite as &#8216;heroic&#8217;as you think. They&#8217;re muslims too, and do very little to help those attacked by fellow muslims. They all stand by one another as we know and they&#8217;re pretty much all alike when it comes right down to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Godless not gormless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godless not gormless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This appears to be a conspiracy against peace and religious harmony in Faisalabad.&quot;

What? By Muslims? Surely not!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This appears to be a conspiracy against peace and religious harmony in Faisalabad.&#8221;</p>
<p>What? By Muslims? Surely not!!</p>
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		<title>By: L.Long</title>
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		<dc:creator>L.Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyday I read this about BS religions killing other BS religions and gays and atheists, and everyday I give thanks to Jefferson-Adams-Washington-Franklin-etc for doing a great job!!!
And then get fearful as I look at the BS arse-holes in this government!
Specifically the republicans.
They can see what is going on in the other parts and still want that for us...crazy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyday I read this about BS religions killing other BS religions and gays and atheists, and everyday I give thanks to Jefferson-Adams-Washington-Franklin-etc for doing a great job!!!<br />
And then get fearful as I look at the BS arse-holes in this government!<br />
Specifically the republicans.<br />
They can see what is going on in the other parts and still want that for us&#8230;crazy!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Rees</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Rees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poverty and fear, and those in power using religion as a tool of subjugation. Those are the root problems in Pakistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poverty and fear, and those in power using religion as a tool of subjugation. Those are the root problems in Pakistan.</p>
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		<title>By: hissing sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>hissing sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as i understand it these crispos were set up. The pamphlets were hand written and do not match their hand writting. Seems to me someone dont like em. Read this on a counter jihad site, cant remember which 1 as i read over a half dozen per day. Best guess is; tundra tabliods, vlad tepes blog, the iconoclast, gates of vienna, atlas shrugged or some other one. Been reading them for a long time. Fuck the mohoundians&amp;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as i understand it these crispos were set up. The pamphlets were hand written and do not match their hand writting. Seems to me someone dont like em. Read this on a counter jihad site, cant remember which 1 as i read over a half dozen per day. Best guess is; tundra tabliods, vlad tepes blog, the iconoclast, gates of vienna, atlas shrugged or some other one. Been reading them for a long time. Fuck the mohoundians&amp;</p>
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		<title>By: Stonyground</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stonyground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Broadsword says in the first post, this kind of thing seems to happen so regularly that we are almost bored with it, we have to make a conscious effort to keep it real by reminding ourselves that there were two needless deaths involved, real people with grieving friends and relatives.

I wonder, have these things always been common in backward, religion infested countries or are they coming to a peak just now? Is it that the Islamists are more and more resorting to rage and violence because the modern world is increasingly shining a light onto their laughable beliefs and exposing them for the poisonous crap that they are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Broadsword says in the first post, this kind of thing seems to happen so regularly that we are almost bored with it, we have to make a conscious effort to keep it real by reminding ourselves that there were two needless deaths involved, real people with grieving friends and relatives.</p>
<p>I wonder, have these things always been common in backward, religion infested countries or are they coming to a peak just now? Is it that the Islamists are more and more resorting to rage and violence because the modern world is increasingly shining a light onto their laughable beliefs and exposing them for the poisonous crap that they are?</p>
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		<title>By: Janstince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janstince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris - Personally, I consider someone who has multiple personalities or rolls his feces into little balls as a &quot;nutter.&quot;  These people seem to have only one personality: rabid.

Broadsword and Barriejohn - I do think that most of the police in these countries are heroes who attempt to uphold the law in very dangerous situations.  Unfortunately, many are just as rabid and delusional as the people doing the killings (consider the moral police in Saudi Arabia) and join to get a power trip and the nice bribes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8211; Personally, I consider someone who has multiple personalities or rolls his feces into little balls as a &#8220;nutter.&#8221;  These people seem to have only one personality: rabid.</p>
<p>Broadsword and Barriejohn &#8211; I do think that most of the police in these countries are heroes who attempt to uphold the law in very dangerous situations.  Unfortunately, many are just as rabid and delusional as the people doing the killings (consider the moral police in Saudi Arabia) and join to get a power trip and the nice bribes.</p>
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