A SAUDI man spent six years chained in a basement apartment because his father believed he was possessed by an evil female genie, or jinn.
When the 29-year-old man, identified only as Turki, first began behaving bizarrely, his father – according to this report – took him to local Muslim clerics who recited the Koran over him in a bid to banish the bad-ass jinn.
The father explained:
Most of them became scared when they heard the female voice telling them that she was a royal jinn (genie) and that no-one could exorcise her unless Turki dies.
Jinns are for real, as this photograph in a Turkish newspaper proves
One cleric advised him to truss his son’s arms and legs in chains and read the Koran to him. He agreed to do so:
My son became quiet but is totally unaware of what is happening around him. He does not talk and is now unable to harm anyone.
The insanity that is Islam claims that jinn can be sinister. The things are believed to be normally invisible but can assume human or animal form and are often said to be motivated by jealousy or revenge.
A Saudi human rights activist and professor in shariah who visited Turki found him to be in a “semi-coma”.
Muhammad Al-Suhali said Turki:
Did not know what was going on around him. He could not eat, drink or use the toilet without the help of others.
Suhali urged the Saudi Ministry of Social Affairs to provide the family with better accommodation and take Turki into care.
Note: Five years ago a Turkish newspaper, Yeni Safak, carried a world exclusive:
A first real picture for a jinn in the world and the jinn was mentioned in AL QURAN … in time they call it a ghost in other nations (sic).
In this blog, Turkish journalist and filmmaker Al Murat Guven claims that:
This is a simple sculpture made by hard-plastic in Cheddar Shovcave in Middle-England. Cheddar Chovcave is a kind of horror gallery built in early 1990′s and there are dozens of horrible sculptures inside. This world-wide hoax created by a young British bussinessman in 1996. He took the jinn sculpture’s picture and gave to some Arabic teens in a Suudi Arabian visit. And the legend was born in Saudi Arabia (sic).
One commenter on the blog said:
Jinns are real, period. Whether this picture is real or not is of no importance whatsoever. Fake or Real, its one own mind to decide. No need for further discussion (sic).
Incidentally, there is a serious discussion – I kid you not – over at Islam Awareness as to whether a human can marry a jinn. Quote:
The majority of jurists are of the opinion that such a marriage is not lawful, but some jurists consider it to be lawful.
Hat tip: BarrieJohn
The Freethinker was founded in 1881 by GW Foote, an outspoken critic of religion. After the publication of 
July 24th, 2010 at 9:19 am
I like Gin.
July 24th, 2010 at 10:12 am
“Fake or Real, its one own mind to decide. No need for further discussion.”
Religion in a nutshell. Priceless.
July 24th, 2010 at 10:51 am
It always seems to be the most vulnerable who suffer most at the hands of religion, and yet its apologists assure us that these are the very people that religion does the most for in society!
July 24th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Human rights abuse and stupidity – must be Islam. The lunatic father should have sacrificed a goat, maybe that would have helped his son
July 24th, 2010 at 11:12 am
@ AL and barriejohn
So true!
@ Angela_k
I agree with the first part of your post, but… do muslims sacrifice goats? I thought they preferred to shag them.
“The things are believed to be normally invisible but can assume human or animal form and are often said to be motivated by jealousy or revenge.”
Apart from the bit about being invisible, this sounds like the description of the average muslim male to me.
July 24th, 2010 at 11:45 am
So maybe you can’t marry a jinn but can you keep one in a bottle for when you’re feeling randy?
Joking aside, note the fastidious nit-picking about whether, thanks to their shape-shifting, you’d know whether you were bedding the right one. Hell, imagine what might happen if they went around in black sacks covering their faces!
July 24th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
I can imagine how hearing the Koran recited might scare off the genie. Like if you or I heard it on a plane, for instance.
July 24th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Human rights abuse and stupidity – must be Islam.
Really? Possession by demons is unknown in Christianity, is it?
July 24th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Why did Turki’s father take him to see clerics instead of the quack? Lack of funds perhaps? Now they’ve justified his imprisonment because his family either cannot cope, or are embarrassed by, his challenging behaviour. It’s OK though, a jinn’s responsible.
Surely the muzzie wizards must chant something similar to, “The power of Christ compels you!”, when performing exorcisms?
July 24th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Islam Awareness? How can they lack a sense of humor to such an extent that they are unaware that the questioner was obviously taking the piss? As for the story from Saudi Arabia, seems to me it could happen in any shamanistic society whether islamic,christian, jewish, hindu,secular or whatever – whenever superstition and ignorance is preferred to science and knowledge. But where is the compassion of islam in chaining some poor bastard in an apartment for six years? Don’t think I could do it…..
July 24th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Seems about right, sadly enough.
“The MAN is acting crazy? He must be possessed by a FEMALE demon. That way, we can chain him indoors and leave him in a state of catatonia with no medical help and not feel guilty, cuz he’s got a woman inside.”
Of course, saying anything to the effect that the stupid mullah don’t know shit about psychology and wouldn’t know the best course of treatment for an individual suffering from delusions or some other malady would be tantamount to putting a rope around your neck, makes me wonder who tipped off the outsiders.
July 24th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
Wasn’t it Mohammed (pus be upon him) who declared that jinns eat animal dung and bones hence muzzies should not use them as bumwad?
It’s no surprise they’re so wicked if they subsist on such a poor diet.
I wonder if jinns are a mohammedan invention or part of an earlier cultural tradition?
July 24th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
@Godless not gormless
I forgot which holiday, but they do sacrifice goats.
July 24th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
@Don
Oh…defensive of islam?
July 24th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
drcancerman,
Just noticing unthinking, knee-jerk assumptions. Or am I incorrect that accusations of possession are apt to lead to horrible consequences in quite a few religions?
Or maybe you are right. Hey, it’s Islam so we can just turn our brains off and rant.
July 24th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Broadsword,
Apparently it pre-dates Islam and was a part of Zoroastrian belief. But spirits, demons, whatever you call them are fairly ubiquitous and certainly pre-date monotheism.
July 24th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
@Don
We are talking about islam here, not Christianity. When it is a Christian possession case, then we talk about Christian stupidity in believing that a naughty demon possessed someone.
Right now we are laughing and being surprised how stupid islam is. Besides, between islam and Christianity, islam is the most insane , the most violent and the most idiotic.
July 24th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Drcancerman, I actually think that the main tenets of Christianity are more absurd than those of Islam. I think that it may be possible that post enlightenment this has helped the Christian parts of the world in throwing off the worst aspects of its religion as the sheer absurdity of it made it much more difficult to reply to critics.
In terms of the state of mind of its adherents, I would say that Islam is the nuttiest religion at the present time but this has not always been the case. Don does have a point in saying that other religions can be just as daft, even though Islam is the subject of this particular post.
July 24th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Is that the royal ‘we’, or is there a corporate voice I was not aware of? Or are you just being pompous?
Me, I’m seeing a case of religious idiots responding to a psychological problem with superstition and hysteria. It’s part of a pattern in religious societies. Why that should be and how to respond would be an interesting discussion.
Right now we are laughing and being surprised how stupid islam is.
OK, sorry to interrupt that, carry on. Sounds very cerebral.
Oh, and why are you so defensive of christianity?
July 24th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
He’s speaking for all of us on this site, Don!
“In issue 1 of the Freethinker (May, 1881) Foote wrote:
The Freethinker is an anti-Christian organ, and must therefore be chiefly aggressive. It will wage relentless war against Superstition in general, and against Christian Superstition in particular. It will do its best to employ the resources of Science, Scholarship, Philosophy and Ethics against the claims of the Bible as a Divine Revelation; and it will not scruple to employ for the same purpose any weapons of ridicule or sarcasm that may be borrowed from the armoury of Common Sense.
Although Christianity had always been the main target for the magazine’s scathing barbs, Islam and other fast-spreading religions in the UK have also come into the firing line, and their lunacies exposed.”
(From the “History” link at the top of the page.)
July 24th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
I would have thought that ‘we’ had the simple meaning of ‘those conversing here’. Not royal, not corporate, and no I don’t have a tapeworm. Pompous? Hah!
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July 24th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
He’s speaking for all of us on this site, Don!
Well, I’m on this site and he isn’t speaking for me. If it’s just me that is wrong, I can live with that.
We have a perfectly sensible article on a hideous example of religious based abuse of a helpless disturbed person. Angela K pronounces it unique to Islam and I point out that it is common in many religious societies. Someone responds with ‘Oh…defensive of islam?’ That’s a discussion?
It will do its best to employ the resources of Science, Scholarship, Philosophy and Ethics
I’m not seeing that from Angela K and drcancerman. I’m seeing knee-jerk xenophobia, such as we had with the squat toilet thread.
I do know what the Freethinker is, and its history. I value that. I am a big fan of ridicule, sarcasm and common sense. That’s the only reason I am commenting here. But sloppy thinking, bigotry and mere spite should be challenged.
Or not. That’s up to you, as you are in control.
July 24th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
Adam,
I never suggested you had a tapeworm. WTF are you talking about?
July 24th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
@Don:
“…I’m seeing knee-jerk xenophobia…”
I don’t see criticism, mockery, and insulting islam as xenophobic. How can that be? It is only a religion, not race, nor nationality. We will mock anything related to islam, from toilet to lil’ sheet-heads to the picture above, where there is a bra… and equally to Scientology with their great god of the all-mighty Dc-8′s and the little brothers Dc-9/Md-80′s Xenu, to the great powers of Jesus and his band of drag queens and eventually to the belief that Jedi’s actually exists.
Why should we be more defensive of islam? Just because it came from the desert and the sand people? Christianity did the same thing! The difference I see between christianity and islam is that christianity is a tiny lil’ bit less bat-shit insane than Islam. (Just in case you are still wondering, christianity is bat-shit insane)
July 25th, 2010 at 12:53 am
Don – second your thoughts on the dangers of borderline xenophobia; don’t think I’ve ever witnessed it going over the border, becoming racist, here. Tapeworm – old Marti Caine joke.
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July 25th, 2010 at 2:27 am
Broadsword
Ambiguity alert: Was the prophet (poos be upon him) warning against people wiping their arses with bones or with djinns? How exactly would you wipe your arse with a scaly, evil-tempered demon anyway?
July 25th, 2010 at 7:18 am
MrGronk
Sorry for that. I was trying to be concise and the meaning got lost along the way. Muzzies were told not to use bones or animal dung to polish their ringpieces as it was jinn food. There was an article here a while back about Pakistani xians having an Islamically offensive toilet and this was part of the discussion. As you can imagine, any article involving bogs was a source of hilarity. Link here:
http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/...../#comments
July 25th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Don, maybe it was a sloppy post of mine but the topic head was islam. All religions engage in barbarous acts but islam is, by a very long way, the worst. If you look at my posts you’ll see I have the knives out for all religions; while I dispise all religion, I reserve most of my venom for islam.
July 25th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Thanks, Broadsword. I’m still flabbergasted though; who the hell would think of wiping their jaxies clean with animal shit? And this is such an issue in 7th century Arabia that allah has to make a binding pronouncement on it?
July 26th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Angela_K – try broadening your horizons a little and take a look at some of the horror that goes on in the name of Christianity in Africa. Take a look at the abuses that used to go on in Korea and China before they modernised.
It’s superstition and ignorance, not any specifics of the religion, that do this. Religions – all religions – are used as tools by the powerful to abuse the powerless. Islam is a particular problem in the modern world because colonial history means that Islamists can portray rationality and egality as a Western imposition. They play the xenophobia card, which means they are more difficult to unseat than the lunatics from other religions around the world.
We need to understand the problem, folks.
July 28th, 2010 at 4:58 am
@Tom Rees
I don’t think anyone in here is denying what you just said.