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		<title>By: drcancerman</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/07/24/jinned-up-turki-trussed-in-basement/comment-page-1/#comment-39424</link>
		<dc:creator>drcancerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tom Rees


I don&#039;t think anyone in here is denying what you just said.</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone in here is denying what you just said.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Rees</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/07/24/jinned-up-turki-trussed-in-basement/comment-page-1/#comment-39353</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Rees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela_K - try broadening your horizons a little and take a look at some of the horror that goes on in the name of Christianity in Africa. Take a look at the abuses that used to go on in Korea and China before they modernised. 

It&#039;s superstition and ignorance, not any specifics of the religion, that do this. Religions - all religions - are used as tools by the powerful to abuse the powerless. Islam is a particular problem in the modern world because colonial history means that Islamists can portray rationality and egality as a Western imposition. They play the xenophobia card, which means they are more difficult to unseat than the lunatics from other religions around the world. 

We need to understand the problem, folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela_K &#8211; try broadening your horizons a little and take a look at some of the horror that goes on in the name of Christianity in Africa. Take a look at the abuses that used to go on in Korea and China before they modernised. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s superstition and ignorance, not any specifics of the religion, that do this. Religions &#8211; all religions &#8211; are used as tools by the powerful to abuse the powerless. Islam is a particular problem in the modern world because colonial history means that Islamists can portray rationality and egality as a Western imposition. They play the xenophobia card, which means they are more difficult to unseat than the lunatics from other religions around the world. </p>
<p>We need to understand the problem, folks.</p>
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		<title>By: MrGronk</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrGronk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Broadsword. I&#039;m still flabbergasted though; who the hell would think of wiping their jaxies clean with animal shit? And this is such an issue in 7th century Arabia that allah has to make a binding pronouncement on it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Broadsword. I&#8217;m still flabbergasted though; who the hell would think of wiping their jaxies clean with animal shit? And this is such an issue in 7th century Arabia that allah has to make a binding pronouncement on it?</p>
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		<title>By: Angela_K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela_K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don, maybe it was a sloppy post of mine but the topic head was islam. All religions engage in barbarous acts but islam is, by a very long way, the worst. If you look at my posts you&#039;ll see I have the knives out for all religions; while I dispise all religion, I reserve most of my venom for islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, maybe it was a sloppy post of mine but the topic head was islam. All religions engage in barbarous acts but islam is, by a very long way, the worst. If you look at my posts you&#8217;ll see I have the knives out for all religions; while I dispise all religion, I reserve most of my venom for islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Broadsword</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/07/24/jinned-up-turki-trussed-in-basement/comment-page-1/#comment-39333</link>
		<dc:creator>Broadsword</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 06:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MrGronk

Sorry for that. I was trying to be concise and the meaning got lost along the way. Muzzies were told not to use bones or animal dung to polish their ringpieces as it was jinn food. There was an article here a while back about Pakistani xians having an Islamically offensive toilet and this was part of the discussion. As you can imagine, any article involving bogs was a source of hilarity. Link here:
http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/07/08/police-arrest-pakistani-christians-for-possessing-a-blasphemous-bathroom-roof/#comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MrGronk</p>
<p>Sorry for that. I was trying to be concise and the meaning got lost along the way. Muzzies were told not to use bones or animal dung to polish their ringpieces as it was jinn food. There was an article here a while back about Pakistani xians having an Islamically offensive toilet and this was part of the discussion. As you can imagine, any article involving bogs was a source of hilarity. Link here:<br />
<a href="http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/07/08/police-arrest-pakistani-christians-for-possessing-a-blasphemous-bathroom-roof/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/...../#comments</a></p>
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		<title>By: MrGronk</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrGronk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Broadsword

Ambiguity alert: Was the prophet (poos be upon him) warning against people wiping their arses with bones or with djinns? How exactly would you wipe your arse with a scaly, evil-tempered demon anyway?</description>
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<p>Ambiguity alert: Was the prophet (poos be upon him) warning against people wiping their arses with bones or with djinns? How exactly would you wipe your arse with a scaly, evil-tempered demon anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Tjaavk</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/07/24/jinned-up-turki-trussed-in-basement/comment-page-1/#comment-39328</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Tjaavk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don - second your thoughts on the dangers of borderline xenophobia; don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever witnessed it going over the border, becoming racist, here. Tapeworm - old Marti Caine joke.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don &#8211; second your thoughts on the dangers of borderline xenophobia; don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever witnessed it going over the border, becoming racist, here. Tapeworm &#8211; old Marti Caine joke.</p>
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		<title>By: drcancerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>drcancerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Don:


&quot;...Iâ€™m seeing knee-jerk xenophobia...&quot;

I don&#039;t see criticism, mockery, and insulting islam as xenophobic. How can that be? It is only a religion, not race, nor nationality. We will mock anything related to islam, from toilet to lil&#039; sheet-heads to the picture above, where there is a bra... and equally to Scientology with their great god of the all-mighty Dc-8&#039;s and the little brothers Dc-9/Md-80&#039;s Xenu, to the great powers of Jesus and his band of drag queens and eventually to the belief that Jedi&#039;s actually exists. 

Why should we be more defensive of islam? Just because it came from the desert and the sand people? Christianity did the same thing! The difference I see between christianity and islam is that christianity is a tiny lil&#039; bit less bat-shit insane than Islam. (Just in case you are still wondering, christianity is bat-shit insane)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Don:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;Iâ€™m seeing knee-jerk xenophobia&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see criticism, mockery, and insulting islam as xenophobic. How can that be? It is only a religion, not race, nor nationality. We will mock anything related to islam, from toilet to lil&#8217; sheet-heads to the picture above, where there is a bra&#8230; and equally to Scientology with their great god of the all-mighty Dc-8&#8242;s and the little brothers Dc-9/Md-80&#8242;s Xenu, to the great powers of Jesus and his band of drag queens and eventually to the belief that Jedi&#8217;s actually exists. </p>
<p>Why should we be more defensive of islam? Just because it came from the desert and the sand people? Christianity did the same thing! The difference I see between christianity and islam is that christianity is a tiny lil&#8217; bit less bat-shit insane than Islam. (Just in case you are still wondering, christianity is bat-shit insane)</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/07/24/jinned-up-turki-trussed-in-basement/comment-page-1/#comment-39326</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam,

I never suggested you had a tapeworm. WTF are you talking about?</description>
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<p>I never suggested you had a tapeworm. WTF are you talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Heâ€™s speaking for all of us on this site, Don!&lt;/i&gt;

Well, I&#039;m on this site and he isn&#039;t speaking for me. If it&#039;s just me that is wrong, I can live with that.

We have a perfectly sensible article on a hideous example of religious based abuse of a helpless disturbed person. Angela K pronounces it unique to Islam and I point out that it is common in many religious societies. Someone responds with &#039;Ohâ€¦defensive of islam?&#039; That&#039;s a discussion?

&lt;i&gt;It will do its best to employ the resources of Science, Scholarship, Philosophy and Ethics &lt;/I&gt;

I&#039;m not seeing that from Angela K and drcancerman. I&#039;m seeing knee-jerk xenophobia, such as we had with the squat toilet thread. 

I do know what the Freethinker is, and its history. I value that. I am a big fan of ridicule, sarcasm and common sense. That&#039;s the only reason I am commenting here. But sloppy thinking, bigotry and mere spite should be challenged. 

Or not. That&#039;s up to you, as you are in control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Heâ€™s speaking for all of us on this site, Don!</i></p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m on this site and he isn&#8217;t speaking for me. If it&#8217;s just me that is wrong, I can live with that.</p>
<p>We have a perfectly sensible article on a hideous example of religious based abuse of a helpless disturbed person. Angela K pronounces it unique to Islam and I point out that it is common in many religious societies. Someone responds with &#8216;Ohâ€¦defensive of islam?&#8217; That&#8217;s a discussion?</p>
<p><i>It will do its best to employ the resources of Science, Scholarship, Philosophy and Ethics </i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not seeing that from Angela K and drcancerman. I&#8217;m seeing knee-jerk xenophobia, such as we had with the squat toilet thread. </p>
<p>I do know what the Freethinker is, and its history. I value that. I am a big fan of ridicule, sarcasm and common sense. That&#8217;s the only reason I am commenting here. But sloppy thinking, bigotry and mere spite should be challenged. </p>
<p>Or not. That&#8217;s up to you, as you are in control.</p>
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