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More creationist crap for Kentucky

BY sponsoring a peg in return for a $100 dollar donation, or a plank ($1,000), or a beam ($5,000) you could help a bat-shit crazy creationist organisation build a replica of Noah’s Ark in the state of Kentucky.

A visual of the proposed new theme park

Earlier this week, Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear (Democrat) unveiled a plan to construct a creationist theme park – a joint venture between the Governor and the mad Ken Ham’s Answers in Genesis, which early gave Kentucky a Creation Museum.

The park will reportedly cost at least $150 million and create 900 jobs.

Ark Encounter will include:

All the modern recreation amenities, including a full-sized wooden ark, a walled city much like was found in ancient times, a replica of the Tower of Babel with exhibits, a first-century Middle Eastern village and even outdoor parking.

The park is scheduled to open in the spring of 2014.

The Louisville Courier-Journal reports that the theme park will seek tax incentives, under the Kentucky Tourism Development Act, which could subsidize up to 25 percent of the project. The state, then, returns the sales tax on costs such as admission, food and gift sales.

Senior VP of Answers in Genesis Mike Zovath told the Courier-Journal that Kentucky officials have told him the proposal for tax incentives “looks good,” and that the park could draw up 1.6 million visitors a year.

38 responses to “More creationist crap for Kentucky”

  1. DS says:

    First…

    “even outdoor parking”

    Holy Cow! Outdoor parking! I’d go just for the outdoor parking…

    Second…

    To everyone who thinks it’s only the Republicans who are religious nutters… well, this.

  2. mikespeir says:

    I want them to put that sucker on the water. Let’s see how long it floats–in one piece, I mean.

  3. ZombieHunter says:

    A replica of the tower of babel?? didn’t that get trashed by the magical sky wizard first time around and won’t he do the same to this one replica or not??

  4. Broga says:

    With this mental junk being supported by people in government it makes you wonder about the quality of their other judgements. Although with the religionut bishops, including publicity hound Carey, in the House of Lords I suppose we have our own dotty lawmakers.

  5. AngieRS says:

    $1000 a plank eh? You’d have to be a plank to sponsor one.

  6. JohnMWhite says:

    Let them build it and then try to put seven of every clean animal and two of every unclean animal on it… and then watch them try to explain why it doesn’t work.

    Also I’d like an explanation as to why it was an odd number of clean animals. What happened to monogamy?

  7. elainek123 says:

    Guess what Eastbourne uk is going to build a mosque dividing the Eastbourne people but of course religion wins thru. There will be a lot of disruption to the Town,obviously paying no property tax etc.
    I could say I want sponsers as I want to sponsor an atheist building in Eastbourne, so please contribute but I dont really want you to contribute.
    I am just worried about the future as segregation of men and women is coming to Eastbourne, and I thought we were trying to fight against this..

  8. JohnMWhite says:

    I don’t think we are trying to fight the building of mosques, churches, synagogues or temples. Religious people have the right to practice their faith and construct buildings for the purpose, though of course we’d hope they come to the conclusion that it’s not worth it and put the money and effort to better use. The issue is that they get various tax incentives that the rest of us have to bear the burden of, and religion receives a special place in society as unimpeachable. I’m not entirely aware of the Eastbourne situation but I’m not sure why simply building a mosque would divide the people unless the people were intolerant bigots like those freaking out over the Ground Zero Mosque That Isn’t Actually A Mosque Or At Ground Zero.

  9. Chad D. says:

    I don’t see how this is not a conflic of interest for the Gov.
    Separation of Church and State doesn’t mean “business partners”/

  10. Graham Martin-Royle says:

    A full size replica of the ark is a bloody good idea. Get it built and then try insisting to everyone that it’s big enough to take 2 of every type of animal on the planet. If that doesn’t convince people that this story is bollox then I doubt if anything will.

  11. Stonyground says:

    @JohnMWhite
    As I understand it, Noah had to sacrifice one of every clean animal to say thanks to God. Sacrificing animals, every one of which is now an endangered species, after going to all that trouble to keep them alive, always struck me as one of the stupidest parts of the stupid story. I also agree that seeing an actual full-sized replica of the thing would actually bring home the absurdity of the notion that even two of every type of fauna on the entire planet would fit on it.

  12. salon says:

    This is a lawsuit waiting to happen. Since when should taxpayers be giving money to an organization with clearly religious goals? Would the governor be just as happy funding Krishna Land? or how about an Islamic theme park? (Where’s the “Be Happy Without God” theme park, incidentally? Either the governor needs to pony up moolah for any and all comers for those big ole taxpayer funds or get his hands out of people’s pockets.

  13. Broga says:

    @Stonyground

    And the insects. How many different kinds of beetles are there? When Huxley, Darwin’s defender, was asked what he had learned after so many years studying the effects of creation about the nature of god he said, “He has an inordinate love of beetles.”

    I wonder if gorillas are included and what about Neanderthals, and dinosaurs? If the Sky Fairy was so keen to save all his animals why did he permit so many to become extinct?

  14. Daz says:

    Most people have already mentioned the obvious: Let’s see ’em get all the animals in. Here’s some disturbing reading, though. I know we have our political-backhander scandals too, but how on Earth did a connection that obvious not get noticed straight away?

  15. Next Chapter says:

    Plus, you had to take more than just 2 of every animal. What are you going to feed all of the carnivores for 40 days and 40 nights? Not to even mention that if two types of every fauna was taken, where would there be room to put food for the herbivores.

    I know, maybe that is when some animals became extinct. They had to be sacrificed to be fed to others. This is what really happened to the dinosaurs. And the animals that were left EVOLVED into the diversity of animals that we have today!

    Whatever happened to rational thought?

  16. chick-a-boom says:

    Most people have no idea how many different species there are. For them, it will be sufficient to see one stuffed cat, dog, sheep, and cow. (We can bet there will be stuffed animals in the ark!) I don’t think this ark will illustrate the absurdity of the myth to anyone who does not already realise it.

    On the other hand it might be a target for myth busters who can ask where all the 400,000 species of beetle are, not to forget all the plants and fungi which are usually not mentioned at all. It would be tempting to print little leaflets saying “There are 400,000 species of beetle known to science so far” and leave them in the ark.

  17. Anonymous says:

    Awww, satirical cartoons in the Louisville paper make Ken Ham cry!
    http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20101202/OPINION03/312020006/Marc+Murphy+

    Here’s a video clip of the million dollar question asked at the press conference with Kentucky’s governor.
    http://www.freethunk.net/freethunk-news-bites/gov-steve-beshear-and-creationist-theme-park-725
    Tax incentives are thought to come to about $37.5M.

  18. chrsbol says:

    If it plans to open in 2014 it’s going to be mighty disappointing for the “believers” who will all have been raptured away in may 2011.

  19. spamtasticus says:

    They better hurry up and build it before the day of rapture arrives in 2011:

    http://www.wecanknow.com/

  20. Stonyground says:

    Actually I think that the millions of species problem has been solved by whittling them all down to a small number of “kinds” of animals that sort of turbo-evolved into different species after Noah let them out of the Ark.

  21. Daz says:

    Stonyground:

    Yeah, you’re right. The (well a) problem with that would be that if their proposed fast-evolution had taken place, we’d be almost bound to have found some of the transitional forms that they themselves insist have never been found. Hell, given that this ‘evolution’ apparently took place at the same time as the rise of human civilisation, we’d expect ancient pictures of the transitionals.

  22. Broga says:

    @chrsbol

    Damn! There I was getting ready for a family holiday to the Creationist Park and I totally forgot about the Rapture next year. So difficult to fit everything into these busy religious schedules.

  23. Har Davids says:

    Broga, you beat me to it. Why bother, was my first thought when I read the caption. Don’t these people synchronise their actions? What’s an (un)believer to think of all this?

  24. Daz says:

    Har Davids:

    “What’s an (un)believer to think of all this?”

    That’s your problem, right there. You think there’s thought involved…

  25. Marcus says:

    ‘The park is scheduled to open in the spring of 2014.’

    What??!

    Is it just me, but I thought that Harold Camping says the world is going to end on May 21, 2011. In which case, what the fuck is the point in building a ‘god theme park’ that opens spring 2014?

  26. David B says:

    I see Daz beat me to posting the Pharyngula link.

    I don’t know anything about US law on this, but maybe it will lead to some legal repercussions.

  27. NeoWolfe says:

    Even creationist fundamentalists get a few bible items right, like the fact that the ark was not a boat, but a box. http://www.whybaptism.org/Creation-HTML/NoahArk.htm

    There we see dinosaurs extinct for millions of years filing aboard the ark. Damn the luck, only crocodiles and sharks survived the last 4000 years. (bible chonology since noah)

    Does anyone need to ask again how noah and his family collected all the land species at the magnetic poles and North and South America? Who preserved all the species from Madigascar, and who boated them back to their island? Who took the platipus back to Australia?

    The entire idea of noah and the flood is so ridiculous that it doesn’t even merit a response. Yet… elected officials participate in reinforcing its legitimacy.

    I think that humans will inevitably become extinct, because we are too stupid to survive. We can build devastating weapons, but we can’t even examine our own beliefs through logic. We wish to live forever (survival instict), therefore we believe in bullshit promises, and rather than put them to the test, we reinforce them as though they were real.

    When I say what I think, it’s blasphemy. So, I just sit back and watch as humanity self destructs. Thank god for microwave popcorn.

    NeoWolfe

  28. David B says:

    It would be interesting if, in the interests of verisimilitude, they arranged for their ark to be built using entirely ancient technology, by a single family.

    Wonder how long it would take?

    David

  29. tony e says:

    I have always maintained that the religious fundies often do our work for us.

    This time that particularly deluded piece of work, Ken Ham, is helping to make himself and the other evangelicals look even more stupid than usual, which is actually quite an achievement.

    This is the man who has publicly declared that man and dinosaur existed together, so if he puts two life size replicas of each known species of dinosaur into this construction exactly how big is this ark going to be?

  30. Stuart W says:

    Marcus, perhaps that’s really what they want an ark for.

    I don’t know if this is the funniest slice of Ham available on the Web but it has to be a contender.
    Presenting: the ‘proof’ that dinosaurs were on Noah’s Ark.
    http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/answers-in-genesis/listen/dinosaurs-were-they-on-the-ark-110661.html

    For those who can’t bear to give him any hits or hear that voice, here goes. Buy-bull a) never mentions that ‘animals’ created on sixth day does not include dinosaurs and b) states elsewhere that there was no ‘death before sin’. Adam and Eve were around six thousand years ago (“if you add up the dates”) so therefore dino deaths, supposedly millions of years ago, couldn’t have come first.

    *Crickets chirp*

    You’ll never watch the T-Rex cargo scene from ‘The Lost World’ the same way again.

  31. erudition says:

    English author Julian Barnes wrote a wonderful behind the scenes story about the events surrounding Noah and family in his book “The History of the World in 10 1/2 Chapters”. You will learn what really happened to the unicorn.

  32. NeoWolfe says:

    The idea of crustacean fossils in high altitude rocks, and the valley of whales, with the bones of animals extinct for millions of years, will not convince the fundamentalist christian of reality. They will attach their own reality, that it is proof of the flood. No amount of scientific evidence will convince them, because to doubt their beliefs is to doubt their immortality. They do not possess the strength to accomplish that. Sad.

    Truth is a puzzle where all the pieces fit together. Religion is accepting disjointed arguments on faith. Can humans really be saved?

    NeoWolfe

  33. GordonWillis says:

    @ Graham Martin-Royle
    They’ve thought of that one. This is from the NY Times report:

    “We think that God would probably have sent healthy juvenile-sized animals that weren’t fully grown yet, so there would be plenty of room,” said Mr. Zovath, a retired Army lieutenant colonel heading the ark project. “We want to show how Noah would have taken care of them, taken care of waste management, taken care of water needs and food needs.”

    It’s just hilarious. It’s true, you couldn’t make it up (unless you were Douglas Adams or Terry Pratchett).

  34. Milz says:

    ooooo field trip to Kentucky anyone? Creationist Museum followed by the Creationist Theme Park! Sounds like a day in Disney Land….except Disney Land is more historically accurate.

  35. elainek123 says:

    Good idea I will contact the Council and say perhaps we could have a Creationist Museum in Eastbourne, at least we are at the seaside. It would certainly compliment the new mosque being built.
    I guess Eastbourne residents will not mind this, perhaps the Council could close some more beds in the hospital and with any money saved we could also have more xmas decorations. Anyway what we say will not be taken any notice of.

  36. A hilariously scarey post, thanks. I put it on my own site to help spread the word as the loonies spread the madness.
    Checked out Answers in Genesis too. Jeez, there are some seriously screwed up people out there…

  37. elainek123 says:

    Cheers. This madness must be spread so that reason and logic can be spread across the Continent. I have found the Freethinker great this month, should be read by all to find this reason and logic in some great articles.

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