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Christianity is the antidote to nasty things like Nazism, claims foolish Catholic bishop

IF A contest had been staged in the UK to find the most offensive Easter sermon of 2012, Mark Davies, the Roman Catholic Bishop of Shrewbury would surely have shashayed off with the top prize.

The Roman Catholic Bishop Of Shrewsbury, Mark Davies

Davies, according to this report, used the PAGAN festival to warn Britons that if they persisted in undermining Christianity, the country would fall victims to “the most sinister of ideologies” – such as Nazism.

This posturing nitwit – who surely must be aware of the fact that it was German Catholics and the Roman Catholic Church who put total power within the Nazis’ reach – said:

It has, indeed, been the experience of this past century, as both Blessed John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI have observed, how the most poisonous ideologies have arisen within the Christian nations of Europe.

Thus Nazism or Communism attempted to discard the Christian inheritance of faith and morality as if it had never existed.  They sought either to return to the pagan past or to ‘re-create’ and ‘redeem’ humanity by political will and ideology with terrible consequences.

He then lamented:

Today we are becoming increasingly aware that there are those in leading positions within our society who wish to see history somehow reversed, who wish the very light which Christianity brought to these islands would recede.

Equally foolish, but in this case simply vacuous and banal, were the words of “Dumbledore”. The Archbishop of Canterbury used his last Easter message before his retirement later this year to attack what he called the downgrading of religious education.

Rowan Williams criticised the Government for not including religious education as a subject counting towards the English baccalaureate, an alternative to A-levels which is being offered by more and more schools.

Keith Porteous Wood, Executive Director of the National Secular Society, summed up the collective Easter tosh thus:

The churches are in revivalist mode and are stopping at nothing to stem their haemorrhaging support and boost their power.

To do so they are inventing persecution, threatening the Government, rewriting history and even persecuting an oppressed minority – gay people.

Hat Tip: Agent Cormac

62 Responses to “Christianity is the antidote to nasty things like Nazism, claims foolish Catholic bishop”

  1. Jesus Christ is Lord says:

    Westwood, while you have belittled love to hormones and my capacity to love as poorly judged I will hold firm to my understanding and affection for Christ whose purpose was to show us how to love. “Love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends…” -John 15:12

  2. Broga says:

    JCiL: Well not exactly a convincing argument is it? There are a great many paedophile priests but not so many as there are protestants.

    Mother Theresa, pushed by the Vatican for sainthood, was a cruel, luxury loving and duplicitous woman. I note you too have been conned by the propaganda surrounding her.

  3. Matt Westwood says:

    @JCiL: So you’re not interested in answering the point I raised, then? Yes, I have a rationalist view of the universe in that I want to understand why and what, etc.

    To that end I do not understand how it is possible to rationally believe something completely unbelievable. My only conclusion is that the person believing it comes from a position of irrationality – that is, belief based on what you want to be true rather than what makes sense.

    Okay, so my take on love is that it’s a chemical reaction which causes a mood swing. Yours is … what, exactly? Can you explain to me what love is? Without quoting from some crappy poxy old book of bronze-age superstition, that is?

    I reiterate: your response is emotional, not rational (whether caused by hormones or what, that’s not relevant at this stage). A rational response would be “That doesn’t make any sense, let me find out what really happened.” The emotional “feelings” response is: “Wah, that is just so cool, I love this guy, everything about him must be one hundred percent true …”

    Are you able to take an objective view? Because if not, you are probably going to end up being led into some very unpleasant exploitation situations. Teenage girls are notorious for it. They know everything.

  4. Jesus Christ is Lord says:

    To love is to will the good of another. My feeling is a reaction (which I do not deny), a passion, which comes from realizing the good in Christ. I agree young girls can get swept off their feet blindly and end up in bad situations. I, however, am not blind though I do feel, and am seeking what is good.

  5. Jesus Christ is Lord says:

    What is love? Love is when you want nothing but the happiness of another, to BE happiness for another.

    Love is a mother staying awake hours in the night taking care of her baby. Love is a husband working long hours to provide for his family. Love is my sister working hard on a card she made for my birthday. Love is the nun who gives her life to serve the poor. Love is the professor who challenges his students to excel… I could go on.

    But it begs the question: If that is love how do you rationalize a love for God, for someone you cannot see?

    Answer: Look at the human condition. The human person isn’t driven by some inward superego or need to actualize, but by an innate desire to love and seek the goodness in all things of this universe. We desire it so deeply that we want to rationalize, dissect, perfect, touch, feel, and know everything… “God.” We desire God. As a Christian I am privileged to love and seek this goodness, God, through His Son who one day will bring me to His Father and reveal all the mysteries of the Universe! It is very cool indeed!! As a rationalist, you must long for the day to have all the questions answered!

  6. JohnMWhite says:

    JCiL, you offer nothing but speculation and psychobabble, wrapped around your own notion that your particular brand of a particular religion is the correct one. Would you be so willing to believe the exact same words out of the mouth of somebody called AllahIsKing?

    Besides, you’re lying. You say ‘we’ desire something that is not universally desired, and you promote your deity as a loving being when citing the exact book that indicts him as a rapist, a bigot and a mass murderer unrivaled in his vileness. And you just keep asserting that things that are true are not, and that things that are not true are. What is the point in you even having a conversation with another person if you cannot even accept the cold, hard reality of completely verifiable facts.

    For example… Hitler was a Catholic. There are no ifs, buts or excuses – he was baptised a Catholic and there is no record of the church ever kicking him out or of him filing a formal declaration of defection. Hitler died in communion with the Catholic faith, and he died after he and his fascist cohorts in Spain, Portugal and Italy signed accords with the Vatican. The Catholic church firmly believes ‘once a Catholic, always a Catholic’, and this is the same church that welcomed the war criminal Tony Blair with open arms. Your god is not loving and your church supports and protects violent fascists, warmongers and paedophiles – these are facts that cannot be disputed, only willfully ignored by a moral coward that Jesus, if he ever existed, would be utterly ashamed of.

  7. Jim Boomba says:

    Is it Ken in drag?

  8. Graham Martin-Royle says:

    @jcil:

    Oh your catholic church is sooooo good isn’t it, sooooo fuuuull of luuuuurve, always seeking the truth. Hah!

    Sanal Edamaruku under attack for exposing Catholic “miracle”

    As he exposed the “miracle” of the drippling Jesus in Mumbai, revengeful Catholic Church leaders vow to harass Sanal Edamaruku with an array of blasphemy cases. The harassment has started. Sanal can be arrested any moment.

    “It is nothing new that the Catholic bishops try to sentence their opponents to the stake when they run out of arguments. Giordano Bruno’s is a case in point. But try as they may, they cannot stop me to stand for reason, science and historic facts. And I am not alone. Freedom of expression is under attack and we are going to defend it!”
    -Sanal Edamaruku
    Exposing the “miracle”

    On 10th March, Sanal Edamaruku flew to Mumbai. The TV channel TV-9 had invited him to investigate a “miracle” that caused local excitement. He went with the TV team to Irla in Vile Parle to inspect the crucifix standing there in front of the Church of Our Lady of Velankanni. This crucifix had become the centre of attraction for an ever growing crowd of believers coming from far and wide. The news of the miracle spread like wild fire. For some days, there were little droplets of water trickling from Jesus’ feet. Hundreds of people came every day to pray and collect some of the “holy water” in bottles and vessels. Irla was about to become a pilgrimage centre.
    But Sanal Edamaruku spoilt this prospect. Within minutes, he clearly identified the source of the water (a drainage near a washing room) and the mechanism how it reached Jesus feet (capillary action). The local church leaders, present during his investigation, were far from pleased. See the investigation in detail on YouTube.

    TV debate with the Bishop
    Some hours later, in a live program on TV-9, Sanal explained his findings and accused the Catholic Church of miracle mongering, as they were beating the big drum for the drippling Jesus statue with aggressive PR measures and by distributing photographs certifying the “miracle”. A heated debate began, in which the five church people, among them Fr. Augustine Palett, the priest of Our Lady of Velankanni church, and representatives of the Association of Concerned Catholics (AOCC) demanded that Sanal apologize. But he powerfully argued against them. Via telephone, Msgr. Agnelo Gracias, auxiliary bishop of Mumbai, intervened in order to rescue the image of the Catholic Church. He claimed the Church was “always cautious in attributing supernatural causes” to such phenomena and always striving “to find ‘scientific’ explanations.” He even assured the Pope was a friend of science. Sanal countered elegantly, referring to the case of Giordano Bruno. He also discussed the Vatican’s official process of canonization in which “miracles”, certified by a Vatican commission, are obligatory for every saint. Since there are more than 10,000 Catholic saints, the Vatican surely qualifies for “miracle mongering”. And the allegedly so science-loving Pope allows exorcism in the Vatican itself. According to recent press reports, he even personally lent a hand to cast out the devil from the body of a Swiss Guard man. In this highly interesting debate, Sanal triumphed over his shouting opponents. [The whole TV program is recorded. You can watch an abridged version of it on YouTube.]

    Threat live on TV
    When they saw their hopes dashed to force Sanal to his knees and apologize, they publicly threatened to file a blasphemy case against him. Sanal pointed out that this would give him an excellent opportunity to support all his statements with evidence in a court of law, with the bishop of Mumbai in the witness box. Foaming with rage, the church people vowed to harass him by filing an array of cases against him in all Mumbai police stations. They did.
    Sanal can be arrested any moment
    We know of three petitions on the base of Article 295, Indian Penal Code that have been filed against Sanal.
    Meantime, Mumbai police announced that they were out to arrest him.
    Sanal can be arrested any moment. In every single place where a petition is filed against him. He could be forced to appear in person to answer them. If his answer is not found satisfactory, he could be arrested. He could be forced to fight a multitude of criminal cases in different places. This is not only immensely time and money consuming. Given the fanaticism of some Catholic believers, it can be a danger for his life.

    Yes, the rcc just loves the truth.

  9. AgentCormac says:

    JCiL

    You ask, ‘how do you rationalize a love for God, for someone you cannot see?’ then answer your own question by stating, ‘…we want to rationalize, dissect, perfect, touch, feel, and know everything… “God.”’

    Well, I’d say you are right in as much as most people crave knowledge and understanding. But how do you suppose believing in an imaginary deity will satisfy that very human need? What has god shown us? Nothing. What answers has he given us? None. What knowledge has he shared with us? Zilch. And I’m sorry to disappoint, but God won’t one day reveal all the mysteries of the Universe to you. That is called wishful thinking. Delusion. If you want to know about the Universe, start reading some science. It’s amazing, you know. It delivers tangible, verifiable evidence which we use to reveal all kinds of incredible mysteries on a daily basis.

    Unlike love between two humans, love of god is a one-way street. For all the devotion and adoration given by believers, all that comes back is a deafening silence. There is no physical presence, no interaction, caring, contact, sharing, intimacy or reciprocation, other than that which the human imagination conjures up to fill the inconvenient absence of any response.

    There is only one life, JCiL. Stop wasting yours on something that doesn’t exist and start enjoying the very real and very fulfilling wonders of reality.

  10. remigius says:

    Jesus Christ! I’m Bored.

  11. 1859 says:

    I don’t like this christian ‘love’ – I’ll stick to fornicating with my gnomes in the garden…..

  12. Matt Westwood says:

    We should have this person on POTD – she’s a natural.