Allowing the RC Church to investigate itself is like ‘leaving Dracula in charge of the blood bank’

THE  latest revelation in Australia’s on-going state inquiry in the Catholic Church’s handling of sex abuse is that “fly-in” priests imported from abroad pose a danger to parishioners.

Victims organisation Broken Rites said it was aware of at least seven cases in which imported priests had sexually abused people, including one where the priest abused five women, four of them members of his own family, researcher Wayne Chamley said. He added:

If it’s good enough for Australia to shanghai problem priests and send them off to Samoa or Rome [a reference to actions by the Salesian order], why wouldn’t overseas bishops do it to Australia?

The Australian Catholic Church has not released the number of clerics imported mostly from India, Nigeria and the Philippines to ease the catastrophic decline in parish priests, but a study last year estimated they made up 20 per cent of Australia’s total of 1,500.

Dr Chamley also said that Church lawyers tried to ‘king hit victims as hard as possible to demoralise them in negotiations for compensation.

They wring their hands and speak in humble voices, but in the cut and thrust of mediation it’s boots and all.

He added that etting the church investigate itself was like:

Leaving Dracula in charge of the blood bank.

Dr Chamley condemned submissions to the inquiry by the Salvation Army and Catholic Church. The former, at eight pages, was “an insult” to the Parliament and people of Victoria, given the hundreds of child victims of abuse by its officers, and its response to victims was often:

Secretive, unco-operative, mean-spirited and legalistic.

The Catholic submission, on the other hand, was notable for what it left out, including two Australian Senate inquiries that showed ”children who ended up in the ‘care’ of the Catholic Church were subjected to widespread sexual abuse, procurement for sexual purposes by other adults, severe and unwarranted physical abuse, criminal assault, prolonged solitary confinement, exploitation and unpaid child labour, slavery, starvation, administration of drugs and provision of alcohol” during most of the past century.

Patrick Tidmarsh, a Victoria Police expert on interviewing victims, told the inquiry the Catholic Church had neither the motivation nor the ability to investigate abuse complaints.

Where is the motivation for an organisation or person to pursue perpetrators when the consequences to that organisation are so severe? I can’t think of a single case where a priest has not been moved and re-offended, and moved again and re-offended again.

He said a Church investigation could not bring the ”crucial independence” the police had.

Meanwhile, ABC News reported that a former New South Wales priest claims to have witnessed a “system of cover-ups” within the Catholic Church to hide child sexual abuse.

Kevin Lee was ordained as a priest 20 years ago and worked as a police chaplain for some of that time, but was relieved of his parish responsibilities in Western Sydney this year when he admitted to marrying a woman in secret.

His comments follow those of Detective Chief Inspector Peter Fox who told Lateline on Thursday night that the Catholic Church is involved in cover-ups and paedophile priests have destroyed evidence to avoid prosecution.

Hat tip: Bill Murray


17 responses to “Allowing the RC Church to investigate itself is like ‘leaving Dracula in charge of the blood bank’”

  1. Graham Martin-Royle says:

    So a priest was chucked out for getting married? Silly fool, he should have just raped a few choirboys, the rcc are perfectly ok with that!

    And no, no organisation, especially one with a track record as bad as the rcc, should ever be allowed to investigate itself over criminal matters. Crime investigation is a matter for the police, any attempt to hide/cover up, obstruct the police investigation, any hold up in reporting suspicious behaviour to the police, should result in both the person and the organisation being heavily fined with the person responsible for the obstruction looking at a long jail term.

  2. barriejohn says:

    What nonsense – of course we can trust the Vatican to police itself!

  3. Bubblecar says:

    Australia is in many insidious ways dominated by the Catholic church, because of their very many powerful agents within the mainstream political parties. This is why a grinning paedophile like George Pell can sit comfortably in the middle of his very extensive spider web, knowing that he’s as safe as Jimmy Savile from any effective challenge.

    It would be legally possible in Australia for the government to completely shut the Catholic Church down, a move which I would very much support. But alas, it’s not going to happen.

  4. AgentCormac says:

    I don’t understand why there haven’t been calls at the very highest level for the RCC to be refused permission to operate in many countries around the world (personally, I’d ban them from every single country). Over and again this insidious organisation has been found out, with its officials guilty of perpetrating or covering up some of the vilest crimes imaginable. Yet all we hear from our politicians is a deafening silence. And the RCC goes merrily on its way as if nothing had happened. If this were any other kind of organisation whatsoever (ie non-religious) they would be shut down and hounded out of town.

    At least Irish Irish Prime Minister, Enda Kenny had the balls to tell it how it is when the Cloyne Report came out.

    We need more politicians like Enda Kenny.

  5. barriejohn says:

    Or more people like these, AgentCormac. The Vatican-of-worms lost no time in bringing THEM to justice!

  6. Trevor Blake says:

    Abusive clergy are moved to a new parish and the victims are ordered to be silent. Not a few unconnected bad choices, the formal and documented policy of the Holy See for decades.

  7. Matt Westwood says:

    “Gabriele is serving his prison term in a special detention room inside the Vatican police station.

    The Vatican authorities were worried that if he were to be moved into an Italian prison he might be subject to pressure to reveal secrets which might cause further embarrassment to the Pope, says the BBC’s David Willey in Rome.”

    “Subject to pressure to reveal secrets”? Sorry, but if it were me I’d be screaming all the secrets I knew as loudly as I could, continually. They’d have to kill me to shut me up, and even then I wouldn’t be silenced.

  8. barriejohn says:

    Matt: Considering the fact that he was imprisoned for passing on “Vatican secrets”, there can be only one reason why he is being kept where he is. As Don Vito Corleone might have said: “I’m a superstitious man. If a policeman should shoot him in the head, or he should hang himself in his cell, or be struck by a bolt of lightning, I will hold some of the people in this room responsible”!

  9. AgentCormac says:


    Quite how the pope and his acolytes have been allowed to acquire the authority of a state is another mystery to me. How the feck have we managed to accord them such status? They must be laughing up the gold-hemmed cuffs of their flouncy robes. In effect they wield both supernatural and human power.

    How they must be laughing at just how stupid we have been.

  10. Matt Westwood says:

    Is the Vatican the last remaining vestige of the Roman Empire? I know the Holy Roman Empire was more-or-less what Germany was called in the middle ages, when Italy was still a hodge-podge of more-or-less independent city states, but was the Vatican the descendant of the H.R.E.? I confess my knowledge of European history (was there any other) of that era is muddled and limited to what I picked up in school aged 13-14. Oh, and of course Neal Stephenson novels.

  11. remigius says:

    Matt. Voltaire remarked that it was neither holy, Roman, nor an empire!

  12. Robster says:

    After all this stuff both in Oz and just about everywhere else afflicted with catholicism (or christianity in general), the problem could be sorted by keeping kids and priests well separated. Granted that would make indoctinating the catholics of the future somewhat more difficult, but hey two probems solved. Perhaps the priests could offer their nonsense by closed circuit TV.

  13. Georgina says:

    I am with Sam Harris on this one: as long as all theologists are assumed to be good because they serve a god, then children will not be taught to kick the priests in the groin, scream and run to the next police station.
    (Theoretically, they don’t need that part of their anatomy anyway!).
    As long as religion is considered special, the police won’t immediately arrest anyone suspected of rape, hell, they don’t even arrest muslims for fear of religious offense!

    All religious organizations should be treated as social clubs; taxed, controlled and prosecuted for their crimes.

  14. Brian Oliver says:

    Praise the absent Lord!

    Our Prime Minister has finally lived up to her atheist credentials and called a Royal Commission into the institutional cover-ups of sexual abuse against children. The Catholics will be the main targets, though she has broadened the proposed terms of reference to include churches, schools, etc to avert claims of bias against the Catholics.

    At last, hopefuly, the church-based pedophile rings and their abettors will be brought to account. This could be the end of the Catholic church in Australia!

  15. RabbitOnAStick says:

    Hilarious isn’t it. In 2012, some pagan ‘king’ still controls what these clowns must do throughout their lives and abstain from sex as though that would help them deal with social and everyday problems. What a bunch of ignorant cretins all these people are to believe this utter nonsense.

    how can a pagan god nearly 2000 years ago still decide the rules for these people in 2012 is beyond me.

    and I have been to Iznik – Nicea. Its [now] a shit hole.

  16. Tom80 says:


    I don’t understand why there haven’t been calls at the very highest level for the RCC to be refused permission to operate in many countries around the world (personally, I’d ban them from every single country).

    Bit extreme especially as following is fron UN Charter of human rights@
    Article 18.
    • Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

    As a practising Catholic I certainly want the freedom to worship as I please. If those in authority in the Church carry out criminal actions they should be prosecuted just as anyone else would be. I would not like to see any religios organisation banned,or non religious come to that.