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More Jinn (and tonics) for British Muslims

BRITISH Muslims are reportedly increasingly prone to mental health problems. Nothing, of course, to do with their insane religion, but because of increased activity by demons – specifically Jinns.

A BBC documentaryPossession, Jinn and Britain’s Backstreet Exorcists – reveals that UK health and social workers and those in the criminal justice system

Are increasingly having to understand belief in spiritual possession among ethnic minorities, with new research highlighting a particular issue with some sections of the British Asian community blaming mental health problems on the supernatural.

“Star” of the documentary is exorcist Abou Mohammed, of Ilford, East London, who does a nice little line in banishing Jinns – for £60 an hour. He is surrounded by copies of the Koran, containers of olive oil and a spray-bottle of water which he uses on the Jinn, the supernatural spirits, that he says possess many of his clients.

Mohammed, who goes by the title of Raqi, has a waiting list several months long.

One of his clients is Mudasar Khan, 41, who says he has been possessed by a Jinn for years. He describes it as something that surrounds his body, buzzing, making him unwell and even stopping him sleeping.

Mudasar Khan being “exorcised” by Muslim quack Abou Mohammed

Curiously, I had that problem earlier this year, but a €1.99 mosquitoes repellent did the trick.

Khan has been on anti-depressants in the past and suffered panic attacks, but he says the Jinn prevented medication from working and that it is only coming to Abou Mohammed that has provided some relief.

For five years Khan has been treated by Mohammed, whose tonic is to call up up the Khan’s Jinn and speak to it directly to it

Hmmm. Five years at £60.00 a session. You do the math.

Mohammed knows what he does is controversial. While the BBC were filming his work he filmed them, concerned that the crew would distort what he does. He said – promise not to laugh – that

There are many charlatans in his field.

The exorcist believes some illnesses are unnecessarily dealt with by doctors when they are actually spiritual problems. He even says some people have operations they do not need because the Jinn has tricked doctors.

I cure them by this book [the Koran]. You have to have a faith in it and it will work. So yes, anxiety, depression, heart problems, many, believe me, many problems get cured by this healing.

Professor Swaran Singh, head of the Mental Health and Wellbeing division at Warwick Medical School, has just completed a five year study, funded by the Department of Health, into why patients from ethnic minority backgrounds were often reaching mental health services in a more severely ill state than the rest of the population.

We found that in the very early stages when people have depression or anxiety, they seek help through their GP because it looks like a psychological problem. When they become seriously unwell, like when they develop delusions or start hearing voices, then the groups diverge.

The Asian groups, particularly the British Pakistanis, then attribute their problem to a religious cause, for instance, possession by a Jinn. So they seek help through the imams, through the mosque.

British Muslims in particular are brought up learning of the existence of Jinn in the Koran, though what the Jinn actually are is not universally agreed upon.

However, the nasty little buggers are said here to be strongly attracted by:

Strong perfume and women who don’t cover their hair.

There’s more on evil Jinns and magic here.

Prof Singh says that religious care can bring a great deal of comfort to patients, but it can create serious problems if it is the only help sought

As well as the misdiagnosis of mental health problems there have been other extreme consequences to the attribution of possession. In September this year four members of the same Muslim family were found guilty of the murder of 21-year-old Naila Mumtaz in Birmingham.

Mumtaz’s in-laws, Zia Ul-Haq and Salma Aslam, who along with her husband Mohammed Mumtaz and brother-in-law Hammad Hassan were convicted of her killing, thought she was possessed by evil spirits.

The trial heard evidence that she was killed as family members attempted to drive out a harmful Jinn spirit.

Naila’s brother Nasir Mehmood believes Jinn was used as a way of “explaining away” the death:

The thinking behind her in-laws was that they would have the body released, take it back home to Pakistan, and say Jinn did it. Jinn killed her. There’s no reason to explain anything further than that. People are very susceptible to believe that sort of stuff.

Tony Medhi, a family friend who helped Mr Mehmood through the case, says he is very used to seeing spiritual possession used as a “catch all” for any problems in the British Pakistani community he grew up in:

The Jinn concept is used to keep society in its place. If somebody isn’t behaving correctly, maybe somebody’s behaviour is very extreme, it could be due to some mental illness, or physical disability or something like that, people will turn around and say ‘it’s Jinn. Jinn has done this to her or him’.

Catrin Nye’s full documentary will also be available online here.

Hat tip: Agent Cormac and M A Chohan (magic and Jinns link)

22 Responses to “More Jinn (and tonics) for British Muslims”

  1. Dan says:

    Gee, it sure it great that we Americans are not so deluded! ;)

  2. Dess says:

    I’m just going to say it. Rather than revelling in the amazing scientific advances we have produced and expanding on this knowledge. We are now with Islam growing exponentially in England having to regress in our effort and time having to deal with what can only be described as medieval madness.
    Jinns, blasphemy, halal food, our political system being altered to accommodate, freedom of speech under attack. I grow tired at constantly hearing of Islam, and it’s never in a good light. Why oh why do we have to deal with this in the 21st century.

  3. Broga says:

    The Jinns’ racket is a nice little earner just like indulgences in the past for the Vatican racketeers. It is a beautiful scam really. Selling nothing, it can never be demonstrated not to work and the con man pockets the money. One of Ratzo’s predecessors sold indulgences to the very wealthy for whatever they did in the future: rape, murder, theft – the lot. I think it was this in particular that got Martin Luther so uptight.

  4. David Anderson says:

    Indoctrination, superstition, ignorance and the wiley feed off the gullible. Religion, same as it ever was.

  5. Matt Westwood says:

    Psychiatric problems can indeed be cured by lunatic beliefs. Let the stupid fuckers go on getting milked, is what I say.

  6. allismyth says:

    Strong perfume and women who don’t cover their hair.

    To cover the beating and the raping…
    I could not help myself it was the jinn made me do it excuse.
    hypnosis con trick for a price,here is one for free, Stop belief in them and they disapear forever. With education people relied more on teachers and less on preachers and their superstition will no longer oppress the people.

  7. David Anderson says:

    Trouble is allismyth, many teachers now believe in religious shit.
    How many teachers have you read about lately that do not know the meaning of “theory” when applied scientificly?

  8. RussellW says:

    I wonder if I can get medical insurance against jinnic possession.

    Jinni sound like a real pain in the arse, a visit by an incubus or succubus was much more fun for Medieval Christians, Islam is so boring demonic possession would probably seem like a holiday from the mind numbing tedium.

  9. barriejohn says:

    Is this any worse than homoeopathy?

  10. Angela_K says:

    @Barriejohn. Well homoeopathy is ineffective but harmless. Will we see NHS funded witchdoctors to appease the religious?

  11. Stephen Mynett says:

    We already have NHS funded witchdoctors, they are just called hospital chaplians.

    They are all lovely people. I remember in my youth if you were stuck in hospital on a Sunday you had to endure a religious service on the ward. One of these in the Nuffield in Oxford was a cracker. On an orthopaedic ward, where there were at least three patients in hip spikas (plaster casts that go from the abdomen to at least the knee of one leg)and many other unable to get up, we were treated to a sermon with the theme “take up thy bed and walk”.

  12. Trevor Blake says:

    I am an atheist living in the USA instead of a Muslim living in the UK. But I offer my exorcism services by remote for one-half the cost listed above. A bargain! Just send me the money and I assure you a week free of demonic troubles. After a week, send more money.

  13. barriejohn says:

    Angela_K: Homoeopathy, like this nonsense, is hardly harmless when people turn to it in place of proper medical treatment. I have a healthy degree of scepticism regarding modern medicine, but when I was suffering very badly from depression – and actually suicidal – my Brethren advisers were prepared to fund consultations with “a very good homoeopath”, and if I had given in to the pressure I might very well not be here today to tell the tale!

  14. barriejohn says:

    Stephen Mynett: Why don’t the chaplains just heal everybody?

    “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.” (John 14:12)

  15. chrsbol says:

    He describes it as something that surrounds his body, buzzing, making him unwell and even stopping him sleeping.

    Jinnitus Tinnitus

  16. Angela_K says:

    Sorry Barriejohn. What I should have qualified was that using homoeopathy remedies [ie water] is harmless. I agree about the dangers of eschewing conventional medicine in favour of quackery, whether homoeopathic or religious mumbo-jumbo.

  17. Matt Westwood says:

    Crocodile Dungbeetle:

    “That’s not a demon.

    THIS IS A DEMON.”

  18. remigius says:

    ‘Hmmm. Five years at £60.00 a session. You do the math.’

    Can’t. Insufficient data. How many sessions in a year?

  19. Groover says:

    So that’s what they mean by jinn and tonic!! Retards. Well said Matt, let the suckers get on with it.

  20. kerryd says:

    What an absolute load of BS ! The jinn are attracted by “Strong perfume and women who don’t cover their hair.” And these people are too STUPID to realize what a crock of shyte this is ? Let me guess what will happen next. The muslims will start lobbying for a law requiring ALL women to cover their hair and stop wearing (strong) perfume. They have already PROVEN that they have NO desire to live in peace with non-muslims, and have NO tolerance for any that don’t believe the same way they do, despite their (obviously false) claims that islam is a religion of peace and tolerance. But hey, keep giving in to them. Keep appeasing them the way you tried to appease Hitler in the 1930′s. That worked out well for you, didn’t it ? Same thing happening here, just based on religion instead of race.

  21. Anna says:

    It is obvious that this article has provoked some eyebrow-raising comments on Muslims being the ‘idiot-group’. But hang on… isn’t it mainstream WESTERN TV with programmes such as “Most Haunted’, ‘Crossing Over with John Edward’ and famous series ‘Charmed’ not to mention the countless live psychic readers all the rave? So, the masses in the west (most probably not Muslims) are huge fans of these broadcasts otherwise they wouldn’t be aired due to not being commercially viable. Isn’t this the same thing in principle but with a different twist? – Uh… yes it is! Anyone who has singled out Muslims (as above) needs a reality check and quite frankly a good slap for being so ridiculously ignorant!

  22. Matt Westwood says:

    @Anna: Yeah but people who take this rubbish TV seriously are not also killing people for not believing the same poppycck that they do. Islam is utterly poisonous shit and must be wiped out from the face of the earth. Christianity is not is intrinsically disgustingly vile but some of its practitioners are so utterly foul as to be not worth of being called human, so likewise it needs to be utterly destroyed. As for judaism, and their ritual mutilation of children, they are utterly beneath the lowest contempt.