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If you want to keep Afghans happy, don’t mention the Taliban, paedophilia or women’s rights

A TOP military commander in Afghanistan is reportedly pissed over a proposed new handbook for American soldiers which warns them not upset Muslims by speaking ill of the Taliban, advocate women’s rights or criticise paedophilia.

The Wall Street Journal reported that the handbook suggests that many of the confrontations between coalition troops and Afghans are the result of:

Ignorance of, or lack of empathy for, Muslim and/or Afghan cultural norms.

The handbook tells soldiers that they should be prepared for a “social-cultural shock” when meeting Afghan soldiers, and avoid potentially fatal confrontations by steering clear of such controversial subjects as Taliban misdeeds, religion and local attitudes to women.

But, according to this report, the draft handbook’s instructions to treat the locals with kid gloves “is not going over well” with US Marine Gen. John Allen, the top military commander in Afghanistan.

General John Allen

General John Allen

Said Col Tom Collins, a spokesman for the US-led coalition in Afghanistan:

Gen Allen did not author [it], nor does he intend to provide a foreword. He does not approve of its contents.

More than three dozen attacks by Afghan soldiers have claimed the lives of some 63 members of the coalition this year. The insider attacks could jeopardise plans to transfer full security control to Afghan forces in 2014.

The version reviewed by the Journal is still subject to revisions,  Lt Gen David Perkins, commander of the Army’s Combined Arms Center at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.

The handbook is the result of a study, based on interviews with 600 members of the Afghan security forces and 200 American soldiers. It paints a grim portrait of opposing cultures with simmering disdain for each other..

The draft handbook includes a summary stating that some US soldiers consider Afghan forces to be “basically stupid” thieves, “gutless in combat”, “profoundly dishonest” and engaged in “treasonous collusion and alliances with enemy forces”.

Other “taboo conversation topics” include “criticism of Afghans”, “mentioning homosexuality and homosexual conduct” or “anything related to Islam”.

 

15 Responses to “If you want to keep Afghans happy, don’t mention the Taliban, paedophilia or women’s rights”

  1. barriejohn says:

    “Don’t mention the gays”!

    I came across this this morning:

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/muslims-seek-gay-marriage-exemption-084242696.html

  2. Ex Patriot says:

    If I was the General I’d be pissed off too. It tme we got out of that piece of crap called acountry and the brain dead male part of the populaion or any one that follows that daffy religion that has no reason to even exist but then no religion should exist, they are all man made evil and myth

  3. Ex Patriot says:

    If I were that
    General I would be pissed also. It is time we got out of that wothless backwater of a country. That place is not worth any more American or Allied lives to be lost.That country will never amount to anything now or in the future as long as it adheres to the pre stone agee religion that it has. Just to be fair all religion is nothing more than man made mythology practi8cd by brain dead idiots, some very evil ones at that

  4. Georgina says:

    Or maybe he is pissed because he realizes that ‘sensitivity’ breeds contempt.

    The culture they are so careful of despises Quislings and has no respect for anyone unwilling or unable to stand up for their own beliefs.

    The USA would gain more support if the soldiers stood up and said “No way, we have our standards!” and demanded that they also show respect to the female soldiers.

  5. JohnMWhite says:

    Not surprised. This is a sticking point the world over, and it is only because secular society has raised the bar on civilised conduct so much in the West that there aren’t more Christians and Jews shooting people for pointing out their faiths tend to do harm to homosexuals, women and children. When you truly believe a bigger bully wants you to hurt people or suffer eternal consequences, you’d get a bit ratty with anybody trying to tell you otherwise. People have to get over the hurdle of magical thinking before they can even begin to accept criticism about their cultural practices.

  6. john.c says:

    The only reason america is still in Afghanistan is not for the good of the Afghans, its for the rich lithium deposits being speculated on in that region, were it not for that i am sure they would never of put troops on the ground there,prefering to take the high tec megadeath approach from the safety of the skies.As to not offending the Afghans, surely the first part of the manual should of read “Dont indescriminately bomb the shit out of them.”

  7. barriejohn says:

    @john.c: The real irony is that the Afghan operation is supposedly a NATO exercise (North Atlantic Treaty Organization!).

  8. barriejohn says:

    Meanwhile, in “democratic” Egypt:

    http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/12/15/255279.html

    “At one point in our history, Cleopatra, a woman, ruled Egypt. Now you have a constitution that makes women not even second-class but third-class citizens,” this is that Olivia Ghita a prominent businesswoman declared. Adding, “This constitution is tailored for one specific group (the Muslim Brotherhood). It’s a shame. I am very upset.”

  9. barriejohn says:

    And as for our old friends, allies and trading partners in Saudi Arabia:

    http://www.arabtimesonline.com/NewsDetails/tabid/96/smid/414/ArticleID/191146/reftab/36/Default.aspx

  10. Matt Westwood says:

    Can’t be coherent on this subject, sorry.

  11. barriejohn says:

    This’ll cheer you up then, Matt:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2250051/Taliban-kill-women-polio-aid-workers-Pakistan-administer-vaccines-children.html

    Is there a single word to be said in defence of Mohammedanism?

  12. Matt Westwood says:

    Er … they do their little bit to keep the population down?

  13. Robster says:

    Can we mention shavers or having a bath?

  14. Brummie says:

    Very good comment JM White!

  15. Marky Mark says:

    Ex Patriot said:
    (It tme we got out of that piece of crap called acountry)

    john c said:
    (The only reason america is still in Afghanistan is not for the good of the Afghans, its for the rich lithium deposits being speculated on in that region, were it not for that i am sure they would never of put troops on the ground)

    …Exactly !!