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Homophobic St Neots cafe owner warned that he could be barred from entering the US

Homophobic St Neots cafe owner warned that he could be barred from entering the US

THE homophobic Christian owner of a coffee shop near Cambridge in the UK was warned today that he might face being banned from entering the US because of his hateful rhetoric towards homosexuals.

Paul Shinners, second from left, pictured with his Cornerstone team

Paul Shinners, second from left, pictured with his Cornerstone team

The Rev Paul Shinners, owner of Cornerstone in St Neots and head of an organisation called Passion for Souls, received a letter from Melanie Nathan, who serves on the Marin Human Rights Commission in California after we revealed yesterday that the evangelical pastor had attended a Christian rally in Uganda on December 31, where he joined other Christian fundamentalists in calling on the Government there to speed up the process of the notorious “Kill the Gays” bill.

On reading the Freethinker report, Commissioner Nathan wrote the following letter to Shinners:

I note your purposeful quest in supporting the Ugandan ‘Kill the Gays’ Bill’. It just strikes me as horrific that someone who purports to be a man of G-d would openly incite such violence on foreign soil.  You ought to know better. 

Human rights activist Melanie Nathan

Human rights activist Melanie Nathan

Mr Shinners, with all due respect, your support and call for passage of legislation that would kill people marks you as an accessory to the potential genocide that is likely to follow, not to mention the inciting of the current persecution that is already occurring. 

Gay people in Uganda are being persecuted, assaulted and tortured as we speak because of this rhetoric that you so freely hurl in your discourse and unfortunately in the name of Christianity.  I do not believe that most Christians think in this fundamentalist way and most would be shocked at how you tout the name of Jesus with such vitriol and violent intent.

Mr Shinners, you are free to practice your religion and to preach to your heart’s content. No one will ever dispute that nor take that away from you.  However you are not free to preach harm and violence against others and that is what you have done and are continuing to do.

You have no right to preach about legislation that is against basic human rights standards and decency as expected of a British citizen either in his own country or around the globe.

She added:

I plan to explore with UK Justice Dept. whether or not there is legislation similar to the US Alien Tort Act, under which we are currently suing Pastor Scott  Lively in the US for his purposeful persecution of Ugandans on African soil, when he preached calling for their demise.

Scott Lively

Scott Lively

In essence you have done the same. Your name will also be submitted to the list of unwelcome gay haters in the USA, to join the likes of David Bahati, Martin Ssempa and others and I believe you may find that you will not be allowed travel privileges into the USA in the future.

To go to another country to tell them to kill people based on their sexuality is not what G-d wants by anyone’s religious standards and you have taken it too far.  I hope that you will find it in your heart to look at what you have done and to issue an apology to the LGBTI community of Uganda as well as to provide a written retraction of your support for the Bill.  If you do I would be glad to publish it in a prominent publication. 

In the meantime this letter to you sir, will be made public.

 – Melanie Nathan, Commissioner, Marin Human Rights Commission, California, USA. Private Courts Inc.

George Broadhead, of the UK gay charity, the Pink Triangle Trust, said he was appalled that a social organization in the UK, which claims to have been established “to love the Father, love one another, love our neighbour, and even to love our enemy” should be a hub of hatred towards gay people.

Cornerstone even published a poster ahead of the Uganda event, which pictured Shinners among the event’s leading hate-mongers.

Broadhead added:

It is even more appalling that a UK-based social organisation should attempt, through the direct efforts of its owner, to interfere with the democratic processes of a foreign country.

But, but … Christianity is “an ashamed force for good“. That’s what our old friend Stephen “Birdshit” Green – an ardent supporter of the “Kill the Gays” bill – told a “sadly depleted” audience in Manchester.

Cornerstone is situated at 2-6 Cambridge Street, St Neots. It can be contacted on  +441480 471505 to or by email (paul.shinners@cornersn.com).  Cornerstone is also on Facebook.

49 Responses to “Homophobic St Neots cafe owner warned that he could be barred from entering the US”

  1. AgentCormac says:

    According to Birdshit no one turned up to hear the tedious old hate monger spout his bile because, “…the Politics Philosophy and Economics Society decided to hold their annual Christmas party on the same night.” Nothing to do with Green being a complete twat with nothing vaguely meaningful to say, then?

    BTW, Nathan’s letter is excellent. These bastards need to know that if they are going to meddle in world affairs, the world will be watching.

  2. Broga says:

    Shinners, an ignorant and cruel bigot, is increasingly going to be under attack as his vicious ideas are exposed to the public gaze. The more people who know about this man the better. Of relevance to the contemptible Shinners, who no doubt thinks he is following bible teaching, is an article in the current Freethinker. Edward Falzon, in an interview, refers to its advocating human sacrifices and says there are parts of the bible that “nobody who isn’t a complete psychopath could possible follow.” He gives examples.

    He deals with the frequently heard canard that only the New Testament need be followed. The OT accounts for 80 per cent of the content and 95 per cent of the timeline. To disown the OT is to disregard most of the “owners manual.” Shimmers picks what he selects and ignores what he doesn’t like. Reading the interview with Falzon you realise why TfTD has become so vapid with its contributors straining to reduce any reference to their bible to a minimum. The shame of owning up to the contents their “good book” with its “good news” has has corroded their confidence. As well as being an embarassment to the listeners they have become an even greater embarassment to themselves.

  3. Barry Duke says:

    That’s the beauty of the Internet,AC. No longer can these maggots do their dirty work in the dark, or in obscure locations without quickly having the spotlights turned on them. They can run, but they can no longer hide.

  4. RabbitOnAStick says:

    The cafe is apparently owned by a UK Charity. Call me Mr Picky but a charity urging killng of people. Ummm.. that is not a charity nor a legitimate purpose for a charity.
    In fact it probably prevents charitable status and t’s tax benefits.

  5. JohnMWhite says:

    Sorry, but I have to take issue with the letter from Melanie Nathan.

    It just strikes me as horrific that someone who purports to be a man of G-d would openly incite such violence on foreign soil. You ought to know better.

    What god are you talking about? From writing it ‘G-d’ I think we can assume the Hebrew one, Yahweh, and he has quite a track record of inciting violence on foreign soil. It’s what most of the Torah is about.

    To go to another country to tell them to kill people based on their sexuality is not what G-d wants by anyone’s religious standards and you have taken it too far.

    Actually it is what his god wants. His god is explicitly clear in this. It’s the same that Nathan’s god wants. And he’s not going far enough by that god’s reckoning since he’s only seeking a political remit for homosexuals to be tried by the state and executed, he’s not killing them himself.

    This is what people like Melanie Nathan have to accept – your god says these things, your god wants these things, and homophobia and misogyny and other forms of intolerance don’t magically sprout in some deranged person’s brain. They are planted there, often by religions that explicitly express such notions. Stop pretending these faiths are not responsible for their members actually following them. You won’t make any inroads by being dishonest.

  6. 1859 says:

    There was a big chin in St. Neots,
    Who sold coffee, cake and big doughnuts,
    When told my a man, that his shop was a scam,
    He…..

    Can any one please help! I can’t finish it!

  7. Matt Westwood says:

    Not sure, but I think the last line should end “butts”.

  8. barriejohn says:

    Barry: He actually said “unashamed force for good”!

    I just had to share this:

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/01/03/christian-ex-gay-porn-star-the-devil-comes-out-of-your-anus-when-you-have-gay-sex/

  9. Broga says:

    When told by a man, that his shop was a scam,
    He felt like he’d been kicked in the gonads.

    Poor, but best I could come up with immediately.

  10. barriejohn says:

    He said: “Death to gays; no ifs and no buts!

  11. Angela_K says:

    The café is owned by ‘Passion for Souls Ministries’, Registered Charity 1131321.

    I feel a letter to the Charities commission coming on. Let’s get writing!

  12. 1859 says:

    Brilliant Barriejohn…..but I’m on a roll…

    There was a tall man names Shinners,
    Who particularly didn’t like pink sinners,
    But he woke up one day and found he was gay,
    And that, he cried, is the end of Shinners!

    Then his friend called out ‘Paul! Don’t leave me so!
    I love you! I love you! Please don’t go!’
    ‘I must! I must!’ the Shinners replied,
    ‘To my god, to myself, I have always lied!
    I love you too, but I must leave,
    Before the Ugandan police……’

    I’m stuck again!

  13. Robster says:

    There’s a shoe shop down at the mall called “passion for Souls”. They speak in tongues and the staff are a bunch of heels. is this the same mob?

  14. Bettydavis says:

    There seems to be a chain of Cornerstone cafes with one near to me. Are they all the same?

  15. Har Davids says:

    Barring people from entering a country may be a good thing, but can they also be barred from leaving it? I’m sure places like Uganda have enough homophobes who don’t really need the assistance of Mr. Shinner and his friends. Freezing their assets might help as well.

  16. AgentCormac says:

    Quite agree, Barry. 15 years ago I wouldn’t have known where to find other atheists, never mind believe that secularism could become such a cohesive and effective movement. How the church must hate the internet! From burning people at the stake for reading a bible in English, to losing all control over what people are able to k now and think, the advent of the digital age has been a disaster for religion – and especially for religiots like Shinners.

  17. jo says:

    PLEASE do not think that all Christians hate gay people.There are indeed many people who are gay themselves in many denominations.The views claimed to be held by this man are extreme and highly repugnant. He represents a type of Chistianity called fundamentalism which is not adhered to by many rational Christians.Chistian groups in St Neots do a lot of good and one persons/groups extremism shouldnt colour the Neots Christan scene.Thanks for considering this

  18. The Woggler says:

    I think it’s telling that Shitter, Green and Lively have taken up the cause of state murder of gays in places like Uganda. They know full well that they can’t feed their blood-lust and hatred in more ethically advanced countries.

    Hopefully these loathsome creeps will get to visit Uganda and maybe come across some of the following natives:

    food or waterborne diseases: bacterial diarrhea, hepatitis A, and typhoid fever

    vectorborne diseases: malaria, plague, and African trypanosomiasis (sleeping sickness)

    water contact disease: schistosomiasis

    animal contact disease: rabies (2009)

  19. Barry Duke says:

    There may well be a chain, but this Cornerstone seems seems to be an independent outfit run solely by Shinner and his mob.

  20. The Woggler says:

    Jo – personally I believe most Christians are more like you than slime like Shinners.

  21. barriejohn says:

    Barry: I read that little speech of Green’s the other say, but I must have dreamt that you didn’t want us giving the cunt further publicity on this site! This is the bit that particularly appealed to me:

    The fact is, Christianity is an unashamed force for individual and societal good throughout the world.

    Look at how many hospitals are named after saints. London has St George’s, St Bartholomew’s and St Thomas’s, and Tommy’s neighbour Guy’s was also a Christian foundation. In Manchester there is Saint Mary’s. In Bradford, St Luke’s. In Oldham, All Saints. In Ashford Saint Peter’s. The Knights Hospitaller provided succour to travellers throughout these islands and the world in the middle ages. The Church provided for the poor for centuries until the modern state decided that was its responsibility.

    I have yet to hear of someone leaving a life of crime, packing up drugs, stopping self-harming, getting out of prostitution, by becoming an atheist. But I know many people delivered from these things by the power of Jesus Christ. Their testimonies are all over the web.

    I have yet to hear of an atheist starting up an orphanage at his own expense, as the Christian Thomas Barnado did in the 1860s.

    Or of an atheist campaigning at his own expense, unsupported by public money, against slavery, as William Wilberforce did in the early 19th century.

    Or to limit factory and working hours, set up schools for the children of city slums, champion the cause of chimney sweeps’ boys and improve housing conditions for ordinary men and women, as the Christian philanthropist Lord Shaftsbury did in the med nineteenth-century.

    And of course these Christians went about their philanthropy precisely because of the incarnation of Jesus Christ we celebrate at Christmas.

    Once again, only religiots are motivated to “do good”. There are so many holes in his “argument”, and so many suppositions, that it beggars belief!

  22. David Lawson says:

    I’ve just emailed the St Neots Town Centre Manager. Maybe she’ll have something to say to him also.

  23. K Brennan says:

    http://www.passionforsouls.org.uk/

    I think passionforsouls are very much aware of whats going on.

  24. The Woggler says:

    barriejohn – this was my response to Green’s stupid post

    http://www.atheistnexus.org/profiles/blogs/atheism-an-unashamed-force-for-good

  25. remigius says:

    Er, Jo. You shouldn’t use the words rational and christian in the same sentence.

  26. barriejohn says:

    Woggler: Most westerners in the past identified as “christian”, so his claims are baseless anyway. Until relatively recent times you had to be a practising Anglican to attend Oxford University! He’s talking about philanthropy , which is a humanistic trait (humanists can be religious or otherwise, as some people on here have failed to grasp in the past). He hasn’t heard of an atheist founding an orphanage, evidently. That proves nothing. Worse still , he naively (and dangerously) asserts that only “Jesus Christ” has the power to deliver people from psychiatric problems. This is nothing but a lie. I am sure that a great deal of self harm has been caused by religious upbringing, and in my own case I suffered for years from severe depression – to the point of being suicidal – as a result of being indoctrinated into his precious Christian faith. Thankfully, the almost complete lack of comments on his site (expecially compared with this!) shows just how few take any notice of him at all.

  27. RabbitOnAStick says:

    Dear All

    May i advise caution.
    be very careful what you do writing to the Charity Commission etc. Or asking ‘authorities’ to seize assets. There is a difference in making an assertion and that assertion being ‘true’. Isn’t this what we always criticise!
    My original comment was there is not likely a charitable status attached to a ‘charity’ that promotes hatred and homophobia. These being not charitable causes.

    The link is in the use of the web istes to Uganda. and the hateful event being promoted.
    Shinner hasn’t yet done anything wrong save share his stupid views and post the Ugandan poster on the cafe web site. Did he attend this event? The passion for souls web site says ‘they led missions to Africa where miracles signs and wonders accompanied the missions”. This is delusional but unfortunately not illegal. If the charity has status to carry out these ‘missions’.

    If he uses the charitable status to promote these hateful ideas that is different. if he uses charitable funds to go to Uganda and promote this hate that is different. But making wild allegations that ‘he has done this or that’, is a very poor way to criticise him.

    we can engage him in criticism as has the lady from the US.

  28. Angela_K says:

    RoaS. Yes I agree. I had a read through the Charities Commission complaints documentation last night and it would seem that under their current terms of reference, the commission would not investigate

  29. stokebruernehuman says:

    I think all the gays from miles around should converge on this coffee shop and turn it into a gay meeting venue. Come on boys and girls – go to it. Maybe all arrange to meet up an Saturday afternoons.

  30. Kevin Rice says:

    While I find this guy to be morally and politically a degenerate, I think that he is safe if he wats to travel to my country – so far.

    This “Commissioner” is from a private organization that has no official bearing whatsoever with the governments of the State of California or the United States. The legal proceeding she mentions that are underway are in effect a private suit, and in no way initiated by any government.

    As reprehensible as this so-called man-of-God may be, he has done nothing yet that would bar him entry into the United States in accordance with US Immigration policy.

  31. AgentCormac says:

    Am I seeing things, or is Shinners trying to grope that girl’s boob?

  32. Alfonso says:

    @AgentCormac

    He is more likely to be fondling the buttocks of the gentleman to his right… Or at least wanting to.

  33. Hayad Haben says:

    Lovely piece of assassination by association. It would be far more helpful to provide accurate and specific allegations against individuals. Do you have a transcript of what Mr Shinners has said or is he guilty because he was at a prayer day event in uganda or because he is a christian?

  34. Addy says:

    I’m pretty sure at some point in time there were some Christians who regarded coffee drinking sinful. Maybe he’ll be struck down for touting the Devil’s juice?

  35. Marky Mark says:

    There was a tall man names Shinners
    Whose religion molested young minors
    When speaking of hate for the rights of other faiths
    He experienced a wrath from his trait

    The people arose, laughed at his nose
    And his large chin that caused a weird poise
    His hate was exposed, his business disposed
    An soon forced to wear weathered used clothes

    His house was than sold, his family he told
    Was god will and they all would find gold
    His family soon left after he was arrested for theft
    And began sucking cocks from his right and his left

    He pleaded to the judge that he needed the funds
    And sucking cock would save his rear buns
    The judge was amused cuz his chin was all bruised
    From balls slapping it when he was used

    He was sentenced to jail where his rear buns were than nailed
    As he tried to earn money for bail
    He soon found this all fun and retracted his pun
    Than married his cellmate named…Bruce

  36. Rebecca says:

    Well you must be gutted that CofE is going to be allowing gay bishops then!! Get your head out your back side and welcome to the 21st century.

  37. Rebecca says:

    JohnMWhite – umm he is a christian? :s I’m not one myself but I’m pretty sure the christian God doesn’t go round telling people to kill gays

  38. Scethin says:

    Jo. Your comment leads me to assume you are a christian, if so then why do you insist on tolerating homosexuals when the bible clearly instructs you to kill them?

  39. Broga says:

    @Scethin: Just been watching the news. It seems that the C. of E. is able to accept gays as bishops providing they promise to be celibate. Fascinating. To whom do they promise? Will a standard form for the promise be drafted? Will the promise be before the House of Bishops e.g. “I promise before God not to fornicate with a man.” This to be followed by applause.

    How will they check? I heard a C. of E. spokesperson explain that the homosexuality could be accepted. It was the behaviour that wasn’t. What about hetero sex outside marriage? Or with little boys? Any promises on those?

    Others are saying that the important thing is to follow biblical teaching. That is quite something and I needn’t repeat here what bible teaching advocates. I think Rowan Williams must be glad he legged it and the new man hasn’t taken long to open a real can of worms. However, they religious obsession with sex, regardless of a world submerged in problems of hunger, abuse of women, environmental dusasters and over population continues. How much more irrelevant can they be? And they have 26 bishops as unelected members of our legislature.

    When what is preached in public by the upper echelons is contrary to what they practice in private is evidence of decadence.

  40. Matt Westwood says:

    Maybe they will use the stool with a hole that is used by the RC to inspect the genitals of a prospective candidate for papacy, to make sure that the candidate is in fact male. Except what they’ll do is detect for traces of either condom lubricant and/or poo.

  41. remigius says:

    Matt, there won’t be any traces because gays eat da poo-poo…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjnrLt3VuSM

  42. Barry Duke says:

    Assassination by association, Hayad? This man appeared on a platform together with a bunch of others who used the occasion to demonise homosexuals and call for Uganda to pass anti-gay legislation. It was reported that “Rev Paul Schinners (sic) from the United Kingdom commended Uganda for the Bill, saying it was a clear stand for God. ‘There is no other nation world over that has such a plan and through this, Uganda is going to be blessed’, Rev. Schinners (sic) said: See:
    http://www.monitor.co.ug/News/National/Calls-to-pass-the-anti-gays-Bill-dominate-New-Year-messages-/-/688334/1655670/-/11vv8ob/-/index.html
    If Shinners walks like a homophobe and squawks like a homophobe, one can assume that he is a a homophobe.

  43. owainglyndwr1416 says:

    The Media never ceases to amaze me.. First there was the New York Times calling George Zimmerman a “White Hispanic” then the Media covering the Nicola Furlong Murder called her African American attacker a “Christian Musician” .. Now it is the “Kill the Gays Bill” Take note they did NOT refer to the Jewish Pedophile Ring that was broken up in Italy as Jewish Pedophiles NO they were called “Russian” Pedophiles .. Those sickos were murdering Children as young as 2 years of age and sold the sick footage to 600 “Gentile” clients at 20.000 Dollars each.. When media bosses were quizzed why they refused to disclose their true ethnicity they replied “Because it would generate hatred towards Jews”

    Attacking Christianity in the media ? FINE Attacking Whites in the media ? FINE Attacking Islam in the media ? Fine ..Attack badly behaved Jews in the Media ? You’ve got to be kidding.. Now you know why 90% of the Western Media is controlled by Jews.. And now they are attacking a Christian because they don’t like his views on Homosexuality..

  44. remigius says:

    @owainglyndwr1416. Trolling is on Mondays.

  45. Daz says:

    And now they are attacking a Christian because they don’t like his views on Homosexuality

    You mean I’m Jewish and I didn’t know it? Oy vey!

  46. Matt Westwood says:

    Attacking Christians in the media? Excellent! We are not going to stop until the whole rotten filthy edifice has been utterly, utterly destroyed. Run and hide, now.

  47. RabbitOnAStick says:

    Regarding all the name calling and deeply offensive comments can i refer all to this link. It is the best quote of 2012 is it not?

    It’s from bridshit. he’s replied to you Barriejohn and you too Agentcormac.
    It is of course the tired views on gays etc being despicable etc.

    http://www.christianvoice.org.uk/index.php/2012nov29uganda/#comments

    Quote of the year for sure. Birdshit says…….

    “I guess it is inevitable that atheists prefer myth to cold hard fact.”

    Priceless.

  48. barriejohn says:

    ROAS: I just can’t believe that he and his despicable followers still peddle the twin myths that (a) paedophiles are almost exclusively homosexual, and (b) most homosexuals are also paedophiles, but they are going to keep on reiterating these slurs as they play to people’s prejudices. Talk about ignoring “cold, hard facts”!

  49. RabbitOnAStick says:

    BarrieJohn

    indeed.

    that particular set of comments (link provided) is truly sad for the statements made. Not just sad, but also desperate and offensive in they epitomise the narrow minded truly mendacious individuals and bibble bashers that flood that web site. Their statements, and self righteous inter-each-otehr proselytising is quite awful.