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Lunatic ‘ex-gay’ Christian group challenges anti-gay poster ban

THE Core Issues Trust, an outfit that believes in the “legitimacy of therapy for those dealing with unwanted feelings of same-sex attraction” and is vehemently opposed to gay unions, is seeking a judicial review this week of a decision by London Mayor Boris Johnson not to allow it to plaster its propaganda on the die of buses.

Dr Davidson

Dr Davidson sees homosexuality as ‘a normal developmental aberration

In response to gay rights group Stonewall’s “Some People are gay. Get over it!” bus posters, Core issues concocted an alternative poster, declaring:

Not Gay! Ex-Gay, Post-Gay and Proud. Get over it!

They got in a huff after being told by Johnson to stuff it; that the message was  offensive to gays, and could even spark retaliation against the wider Christian community.

The trust declares on its website:

The advertisements indirectly advocated the possibility that some individuals benefit from sexual re-orientation therapy and as men and women who voluntarily seek change in sexual preference and expression, should be respected in their choices to seek help in this way.

The trust added:

On Thursday, the Trust will ask Judges to reverse the ban on the basis that the Mayor had unlawfully restricted free speech, and had discriminated against the Trust by stifling one side of the debate on the issue.

It will also point to advertisements permitted by TfL on other controversial issues including pregnancy and abortion advisory services, sexualised imagery of women and the recent campaign by the British Humanist Association in which the poster read ‘There’s probably no God’.

It also said:

On Thursday Dr Mike Davidson, the head of the trust, and his supporters will go to the High Court to claim Mr Johnson’s ban on their poster campaign should be reversed on the grounds that he unlawfully stifled free speech.

According to this report, “this is all about being free to talk about these issues,” said Dr Davidson, who himself “has a homosexual past”.

The Belfast-based crackpot said:

It was a mistake to assume these views we were expressing came from entrenched homophobia, and failed to recognise that people who want to walk away from their homosexual feelings are a group in their own right.

Andrea Minichiello Williams

Andrea Minichiello Williams

Andrea Minichiello Williams, director of the Christian Legal Centre, which is supporting Dr Davidson’s case, said:

The ban on these advertisements was the beginning of a kind of reverse discrimination which threatens to obliterate debate in the public sphere. Boris Johnson needs to realise his mistake and ensure there is freedom for all in the marketplace of ideas. He cannot prefer one group over another.

A Transport for London spokesman said:

The advertisement breached TfL’s advertising policy as in our view it contained a publicly controversial message and was likely to cause widespread offence to members of the public.

Hat tip: BarrieJohn

25 Responses to “Lunatic ‘ex-gay’ Christian group challenges anti-gay poster ban”

  1. Angela_K says:

    Dr Davidson has a “homosexual past”, another self-loathing bigot just like O’Brien then. Hopefully someone will come forward and dish the dirt on Davidson too.

    With Minichiello Williams on the case he is bound to lose.

  2. barriejohn says:

    More on Davidson from their website, here:

    http://www.core-issues.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=68&cntnt01returnid=15

    Director of the Christian Legal Centre, Andrea Minichiello Williams, commented:

    “There is a clear lack of tolerance for Mike’s Christian beliefs about sexual ethics. The views of the BPA and UKCP amount to an attempt to rule on and control what he can believe as an individual.

    “Mike has always been open about his interest in and support for therapy which deals with unwanted same-sex attraction. Those who have worked most closely with him testify to his professionalism and ethical conduct.

    “The BPA and UKCP’s attempt to ban those with Christian beliefs on sexual ethics from being therapists is the real unethical conduct here.

    “Along with the case of Lesley Pilkington, we are witnessing a worrying trend where the door to practising professional therapy is being closed to people with Christian sexual ethics”.

    They’re always the bloody victims, aren’t they, in true 1984 style!

  3. barriejohn says:

    More here:

    http://www.core-issues.org/index.php?page=ukcp-dispute

    Protecting gay people from bullying should never be used educatively to promote homosexuality so that individual identity choice is obscured.

    Gay feelings may change and may be helped to change. There’s no such thing as ‘no choice’ when we experience gay feelings.

    The claim that gay feelings are hard-wired is the opposite to what science teaches: that the environment is the major causal factor.

    Stonewall doesn’t appear to recognise the need for spaces in our schools where children and their parents can live according to faith or no-faith values and walk away from homosexuality respectfully and with dignity.

    Evidently, there are lies, damned lies, and “Christian truth”.

  4. Har Davids says:

    L’histoire se répète! If people are insecure/dumb enough to fall for these snake-oil peddlers, let them go and see them. As long as alternatives to this BS are available, let Sore Issues waste their money on ads on busses. With all the false advertising we’re being bombarded with, I can’t imagine this widespread offence to members of the public.

  5. ChadW says:

    I would assume that Dr Davidson will be able to produce a number of other people who feel as he does. If so, does this not become an issue of free speech? If Stonewall have the right to purchase advertising space on the side of a bus to state their opinions on sexuality why can the same right not be afforded to Core Issues? As far as I can see neither advert is overtly threatening, inciting any criminal action, nor particularly offensive.

  6. barriejohn says:

    The reasons why the ads were felt unacceptable are outlined here:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/12/anti-gay-adverts-boris-johnson

    Johnson, who contacted the Guardian to announce he was stopping the adverts within two hours of their contents becoming public, said: “London is one of the most tolerant cities in the world and intolerant of intolerance. It is clearly offensive to suggest that being gay is an illness that someone recovers from and I am not prepared to have that suggestion driven around London on our buses.”

  7. barriejohn says:

    Mike Davidson, ex gay:

    I am a vixen dyke’s dog

  8. Marky Mark says:

    X-gay…hummm, I’m guessing he was just drunk that night and picked up a T-girl. Woke up sober and ran to church than confessed. They classified him as gay, but now cured.

  9. jay says:

    I don’t like to side with these guys, but I don’t see a functional difference, between banning these relatively restrained ads and the blocking of atheist ads that might “be offensive to Christians”.

    We correctly bristle when people suggest that our ads might make a town appear ‘unfriendly to religion ‘. No one has a right not to be offended.

  10. barriejohn says:

    Jay: I’m not “offended” by the ads myself, but you have to bear in mind the number of homophobic attacks that take place in our cities, and the point was also made that vulnerable young gay people might have been adversely influenced by the ideas being implied by the ads.

  11. JohnMWhite says:

    Exactly, barriejohn. There’s a big difference between suggesting there is probably no god (or telling women where they can get abortion counseling or simply lingerie ads) and suggesting that gay people are entirely broken on the inside and should get themselves fixed before they can be counted as equal human beings. The reason the former are offensive to Christians is that some Christians cannot stand to live in a world that does not allow them to control it. The reason the latter is offensive to some of us and is a problem for gay people themselves is that gay people are frequently attacked for being gay and frequently find themselves so mentally distressed they become ill or kill themselves, all because a certain segment of society really wants them to feel bad about being who they are.

    Once again, in a time of crippling austerity, I can’t help but marvel at the Christian spirit of charity that is throwing money at bus ads and legal suits specifically to make gay people feel unwelcome in the world.

    “Protecting gay people from bullying should never be used educatively to promote homosexuality so that individual identity choice is obscured.”

    Translation: Let us make the faggots miserable so that we can coerce them into being the way we’ve decided they should be.

    Another Christian group advocating bullying. These people are soulless and they can go fuck themselves.

  12. tony e says:

    Did she honestly say ‘He cannot prefer one group over another’ and manage to keep a straight face?

  13. barriejohn says:

    Here’s something that we hadn’t considered. Inclusive education leads to lower academic grades!

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/02/25/us-radio-host-lgbt-inclusivity-in-schools-to-blame-for-falling-grade-averages/

  14. Buffy says:

    “It was a mistake to assume these views we were expressing came from entrenched homophobia”

    Bullshit.

  15. Robster says:

    These silly godbots have a wonderful talent in their being able to say one thing while meaning the complete opposite, bit like what they call the “good news” of the baby jesus/god/ghost thing nonsense. It’s not good news and they know to sell it, they need marketing tricks, hence their choice of language. They can’t even lie with sincerity.

  16. JohnMWhite says:

    “The ban on these advertisements was the beginning of a kind of reverse discrimination which threatens to obliterate debate in the public sphere.”

    Surely reverse discrimination is, you know, not discriminating. This is a lawyer? She sounds like an eight year old raised by skinheads trying to insist that affirmative action is ‘reverse racism’.

    The Core Issues Trust has a lot of whining about the dangerous gay agenda on their site for a bunch of not-a-bigots™, and their main concern is that they’re not allowed to discriminate by refusing to let gay people go about their lives by getting married, getting government benefits, getting not bullied to death in school or even getting a hotel room. Utterly contemptible that they even pretend to not be vicious homophobes. At least own up to it you moral cowards.

  17. 7footpiper says:

    That’s very true, though it would be awesome if the religiots could let the gays who want to be gay just be gay.

  18. John A says:

    ‘Boris Johnson needs to realise his mistake and ensure there is freedom for all in the marketplace of ideas. He cannot prefer one group over another.’
    If that’s what they truly believe, then why did they protest against the recent campaign by the British Humanist Association in which the poster read ‘There’s probably no God’, and try to have them removed? Umm, obviously another example of their idea of equality being somewhat different to the dictionary definition of it.

  19. barriejohn says:

    John A: You’re right, but they’ll never see it. In THEIR case it’s not intolerance and bigotry, but just standing up for what God says is right. It’s the same when it comes to all that hell-fire preaching: “It’s not what WE say – it’s what God says”!

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/02/26/video-westboro-baptist-church-faces-counter-protest-at-la-high-school-over-tolerance-of-gay-pupils/

  20. John A says:

    @barriejohn: yes indeed, and as Blaise Pascal said, “Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully as when they do it for religious conviction”.

  21. the Woggler says:

    Surely “Not Gay! Ex-Gay, Post-Gay and Proud. Get over it!” is a personal statement that relates to Dr Davidson. Is that what bus advertising is for?

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