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Mad Muslim hate preacher barred from addressing Reading University students

ABU Usamah at-Thahabi is a Muslim extremist who doesn’t care much for homosexuals. Or females. In fact, he advocates the killing of gays, thinks women are “deficient” and encourages the beating of little girls who refuse to wear the hijab.

Abu Usamah at-Thahabi

Abu Usamah at-Thahabi studied the Koran and suffered brain damage

Tonight he was due to address Reading University students, having been invited by the university’s Muslim Society, but his speech was cancelled yesterday, according to this report, because of fears that his presence would invite protests from “extremist groups”.

A campaign group calling itself Student Rights, claiming that Abu Usamah is anti-gay, issued a call for demonstrators to assemble outside the venue 30 minutes before the scheduled start of the event.

Last night University spokesman Alex Brannen issued a statement saying that the event had been cancelled because:

The safety of students, members, staff and visitors is of paramount importance.

The statement added:

Reading University Muslim Society, Reading University Students Union (RUSU) and the University of Reading are in agreement that the laudable aims of the Muslim Society’s ‘Discover Islam Week’ are undermined by the increasing threat of violent protest from extremist groups outside the University community.

In a statement issued today, Peter Tatchell, of the Peter Tatchell Foundation, said:

Thahabi endorses the murder of gay people and of Muslims who give up their faith. He says women are deficient and encourages the beating of little girls who refuse to wear the hijab. While this cancellation is welcome, the stated reasons for the cancellation are inadequate.

The university authorities say the event was cancelled due to threats of violent protests from the far right EDL. However, they have failed to condemn the Muslim Society for inviting Thahabi.

Offering him a platform clearly violated the equal opportunities and non-discrimination policies of the university and the student’s union. He should have never been invited in the first place. Women, Muslim and LGBT students have a right to go to university without being menaced and threatened by hate preachers.

Tatchell’s statement details Abu Usamah at-Thahabi’s history of “murderous incitements, sexism and threats against fellow Muslims”.

Thahabi was caught on camera inciting hatred while addressing worshippers at the Green Lane Mosque in Birmingham. He said:

Do you practice homosexuality with men? Take that homosexual man and throw him off the mountain. If I were to call homosexuals perverted, dirty, filthy dogs who should be murdered, that’s my freedom of speech, isn’t it?

On Muslims who leave the faith he said:

Kill him in the Islamic state … If the Imam wants to crucify him, he should crucify him. The person is put up on the wood and he’s left there to bleed to death for three days.

He derided women as “deficient”, inferior to men and religiously and intellectually “incomplete”.

He advocates violence against little girls who refuse to wear the hijab:

She should start hijab from the age of seven, by the age of ten it becomes an obligation on us to force her to wear hijab and if she doesn’t wear hijab, we hit her.

When he was later interviewed by Channel 4 News, he refused to withdraw or apologise for his comments.

This is the second time this year that this madman has been given the elbow. In January the Warwick University Islamic Society cancelled a planned appearance by the hate-monger.  The Society said that is had not been  aware of Abu Usamah’s comments, which had been captured by a Channel 4 TV team in 2007.

The President of the society said:

Warwick University Islamic Society does not allow any speakers on campus that will cause any negative issues with The University itself.

35 Responses to “Mad Muslim hate preacher barred from addressing Reading University students”

  1. AgentCormac says:

    With views like those, it isn’t just British universities the hate-mongering religiot should be kicked out of.

  2. Matt Westwood says:

    Now we know what he looks like we can throw shit at him in the street when he goes past.

  3. Har Davids says:

    Let’s ‘Discover Islam’ with the help of people like these. It’s like using Jack the Ripper as a means to sell straight razors to the general public.

    And why this bull-shit about an ‘increasing threat of violent protest from extremist groups outside the University community.’?

  4. Marky Mark says:

    (he advocates the killing of gays, thinks women are “deficient” and encourages the beating of little girls who refuse to wear the hijab.)
    …Again, it is all about hate and the most hateful psychopaths join these cults they call religion. But the problem is the followers, as they must be a hateful lot too.

  5. L.Long says:

    Doesn’t England have one of those silly laws about talking bad about others and inciting hate and violence???
    Why is he not in jail????

  6. Robster says:

    Sounds like the extremists will be inside the venue, not outside. Why are these hate filled twits allowed in to civilised countries to tout their nonsense? Sureluy the authorities with a quick Google can see what these extremist types are on about. What they’re selling is not wanted in a civilised society. Send the twit back to one of his desirable muzzy countries.

  7. JohnMWhite says:

    I have a feeling “send him back!” and calling people ‘Muzzies’ is the kind of thing the university was worried about, particularly with the likes of the EDL waiting to protest the event. It is most unfortunate that reasonable, tolerant people wind up on the same side as blatant racists and xenophobes, and the terminology and thoughts of the two start to merge. Not that it is hard to understand why people would be so angry with a preacher who whips up hatred and violence against women and homosexuals. Hate incites hate.

    I think we should be careful not to play into the hands of those who would hide their hateful rhetoric behind a shield of persecution. The university should not have felt remotely comfortable suggesting that anybody but the preacher himself was likely to be a problem. And despite having some reason to express concern over anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant sentiment in protests, they still should be deeply ashamed that they extended an invitation in the first place, and that they failed to condemn the dangerous rhetoric of this particular extremist.

  8. Trevor Blake says:

    Kevin Carroll of the EDL has been arrested for allegedly making the following comment on facebook about Muslims: “They are all backward savages, a devil-spawned death-cult worshipping all that is barbaric and unholy. Pure evil”

    Mr. Carroll’s alleged words are unkind but make no call to action. Mr. Usamah at-Thahabi’s words are both unkind and a call to action. One wonders when Mr. Usamah at-Thahabi will also be arrested.

  9. John A says:

    Yet again a ridiculous over deference to religion, this time by Reading University. If ABU Usamah at-Thahabi wasn’t a Muslim but still held exactly the same primitive views he would be seen as ignorant, stupid and nasty by all civilised people. Would Reading University then be so ready to accept as a speaker to its charges a person who is clearly deranged, deluded and a dick-head? I would hope not, but of course he’s a Muslim so different rules apply; stoking up threats of physical violence against whole communities and bullying people seems to be acceptable by Reading University as long as it’s done in the name of ‘Allah’ or ‘Mohammed’ (Bossman and Best Helper at The religion of Peace inc.).
    Just when did ignorance and stupidity become a point of view worthy of an airing at an English University?

  10. Cameron says:

    … that his presence would invite protests from “extremist groups”…That is worded wrong, it should say “his extremist views will invite protests…

  11. T says:

    Is this muslim shitbag a British citizen? If not he must be deported back to the hell hole he came from. If yes then he must be put in prison and take his chances with some people who will straighten him out. The evil bastard did not think all this up for himself. Some other equally nasty fuckwit has put these ideas in his head. And this guy will do the same and on it goes. Verminous ignorant bigot.

  12. Great Satan says:

    The problem is that he is’nt a “mad muslim”, but a proper muslim – the Koran itself explicitly calls for the execution of homosexuals (as well as Jews,Infidels etc) and for the spread of Islam through the sword.

  13. DCBrighton says:

    T,

    He’s a US citizen and yes, he should be sent back.

  14. Groover says:

    Is this the same university muslim society that recently caused a stink about a pineapple satirically called mohammed? Seems to me it’s the students (young people at an institution to study and grow their minds) who are pushing the agenda. Let’s call a spade a spade. They’re guilty of stirring things up and thick as shit.

  15. vito says:

    Should be added to George Carlin’s list of people that ought to be killed

  16. Graham Martin-Royle says:

    I am no supporter of the edl, in fact I despise the racist scumbags but, as Trevor Blake has pointed out, Kevin Carroll hasn’t actually incited anyone to commit an act of violence towards anyone else, he has merely said things which are insulting to followers of this horrid religion.

    What this man has done is to incite violence which, as far as I’m concerned, takes him outside the boundaries of acceptable free speech.

    Why do our wonderful police not take action against him? Too scared of the reaction I guess.

  17. barriejohn says:

    I heartily agree with the remarks about the EDL. We all have to be nice about the Mohammedans – or else!

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/maryamnamazie/2013/02/28/oppose-channel-4-and-bbcs-censorship-when-it-comes-to-islam/

    “Blasphemy-law-by-stealth”

  18. barriejohn says:

    “The Religion of Peace” – and suspicious beards:

    tp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/islamist-leaders-death-sentence-for-war-crimes-sparks-fatal-riots-in-bangladesh-8515749.html

    Obviously, as in the recent Vicky Pryce case, a jury would have found him quite innocent. Frightening!

  19. tony e says:

    I believe that free speech is fundamental to a free society.

    Whilst I vehemently disagree with the statements he has made, should he be allowed to make them?

    Part of me thinks that he should because public opinion is fickle, and one day we atheists may be forbidden from public speaking (like the good old days when heretics were burned at the stake).

    The rational part of me also knows that to spread hatred is wrong and he should be told, in no uncertain terms, to shut the fuck up!

    I’m struggling with this one.

  20. barriejohn says:

    Tony e: I am in the same boat as you. Basically, I believe that people should be able to believe and say what they like, however abhorrent we may find their views, but this guy is inciting violence – against gays in particular. There we must draw the line. I agree that the waters are much more murky when it comes to religions actively discriminating against women, gay people and even racial groups, as they do, but this case seems quite clear cut to me.

  21. sailor1031 says:

    It seems to me that if we are going to respect the rights of islamists to make speeches promoting violence against women, children and non-muslims then we should also respect the islamic tradition of violent, even lethal, protest riots against those who make unpopular speeches. It seems to work well in Pakistan to silence those with whom the rioters disagree. Let the EDL protest. It’s only fair.

  22. DJ says:

    It’s ironic that this nutter’s speech was cancelled due to concerns about ‘extremists’! Why was a foreigner openly committed to inciting hate crimes allowed in the country?

  23. AgentCormac says:

    tony e

    Completely empathise with your dilemma. But for my money freedom of speech should not extend to incitement to violence against any individual or group. Much as we might not like what they say, idiots like Abu Usamah at-Thahabi should be allowed to say whatever they want – as long as it does not cross that line. When it does, then he should expect to be locked up for being a threat to society (or part of it).

  24. AgentCormac says:

    DJ

    Especially when people who criticise religion do get banned from entering the UK.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7882953.stm

  25. tony e says:

    barriejohn, AgentCormac,

    I agree,free speech should not extend to inciting violence.

    I, personally, would like him to be broadcast far and wide on every type of media possible, so people can see and hear his vile nonsense and judge him on that, BUT, as the vast majority of this planet bizarrely needs religion to make their moral decisions for them, this would probably backfire.

  26. Bob says:

    Fixating on a few words of what this cleric has said, however offensive, and then trying to shut him up, prevents us developing a full understanding of the problem. Without this understanding, how can we hope to find the right solution? Understanding comes from listening and observing, and that includes allowing people to talk.

    For whatever reason, this cleric feels a need to exert power and authority. I wonder why? Is there anything we can do to make him feel that he doesn’t need to? Trolls aside, does anyone have any constructive suggestions about how to make this man feel better so that he no longer wants to hurt others, or see them hurt?

  27. JohnMWhite says:

    Bingo, tony e. That’s the real problem with a complete open season for freedom of speech – the principle may be sound and noble, but the result could be catastrophic. There are enough religious people just waiting for the word to start clobbering those that ain’t exactly like them that free speech cannot be allowed to extend to saying x group needs to die.

    Saw a documentary about slavery in the United States last night – in the 1890s/early 1900s. It still existed, but under the guise of debt slavery or penal servitude. Black people were still so despised in certain parts of the US that a mob would kill them at the drop of a hat – and this situation did not really change for another 60 years. Just existing but being different was enough to have an entire group of people lose their minds and murder someone, like a pack of rabid wolves. It is insane what hatred can do, and truly dangerous to allow the idea that “difference needs to die” to enter the public consciousness.

  28. David Anderson says:

    The more we see cases like this where the government and the police cherry pick who they will prosecute the more support parties like the EDL will get.

    Old Enoch’s speech about “rivers of blood” might prove right afterall, just a bit later than he thought.

  29. stargraves says:

    Freedom of speech is a NOT an innate human right in our law. It is a qualified right – trumped by the likelihood of it causing harm or violence towards others – as in this case.

    Clearly – he is in breach of UK and European law – and needs to be dealt with. Simple as.

  30. barriejohn says:

    Is this muslim shitbag a British citizen? If not he must be deported back to the hell hole he came from. If yes then he must be put in prison and take his chances with some people who will straighten him out.

    T: Are you not aware just how many Muslims there are in British prisons, and what a fruitful recruiting ground they find them? We should do everything we can to keep people like this out of them!

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3aa_1212339799

  31. AgentCormac says:

    Bob (I’m assuming you aren’t Bob Hutton because what you have posted is actually thought-provoking and interesting)

    As I see it, this isn’t a case of some poor individual who has mental health issues which society needs to understand and try to deal with. Nor is it someone whose words are perhaps being taken out of context and need re-evaluating. We know full well what this hate monger is all about because we can all read the instruction manual he is using to fuel his rhetoric.

    However, I suppose the question is this: is he a charlatan, an opportunist who, like so many religious people before him, can see the potential which religion offers to have power over others? Or has he been so indoctrinated into religious extremism from birth that he truly believes that anyone who doesn’t accept what he believes needs destroying?

    Either way, I honestly think he is beyond being help. And he needs locking up before he can fill yet more innocent minds with bigotry and hate.

  32. remigius says:

    Bob, ‘…does anyone have any constructive suggestions about how to make this man feel better so that he no longer wants to hurt others…?’

    Yes. We can submit to Islam. We can kill all the gays, oppress all the women, indoctrinate our children, surrender any vestige of freedom, and live our lives according to the deluded ramblings of a violent ignorant paedophile on a flying horse.

    Hope this helps!

  33. Angela_K says:

    @Bob “Understanding comes from listening and observing, and that includes allowing people to talk”. That would be the antithesis to religious extremists.

    Those deluded fools whose brains have been rotted by religious indoctrination do not want to listen to anything that challenges their dogma and blinkered world-view. Many have tried – including this forum – to engage with the religious but their minds are already closed; they ignore any evidence and come back with some rubbish from their holy book.

    “…..how to make this man feel better so that he no longer wants to hurt others…” For hate preachers like him a strategically placed few grammes of lead would suffice.

  34. tony e says:

    JohnMWhite,

    This is causing me to have mental somersaults! I worship the ideal, but the reality is not as good.

    There is a poem by Niemoller (ironically a priest) which articulates free speech far better than I ever could.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came

  35. Matt Westwood says:

    “There are enough religious people just waiting for the word to start clobbering those that ain’t exactly like them that free speech cannot be allowed to extend to saying x group needs to die.”

    But free speech in return allows you to say “This arsehole spouting this particular shit also needs to die.” Result: pagga. Result: lots of violent and nasty people die. Result: double plus good.