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Gay marriage has been spurred on by a ‘secular theocracy’. Oh, and Satan

THE number of True Believers™  in the US has sunk to all all time low, according to this new study.

And who can blame Americans for ditching faith in ever greater numbers when so many of their religious leaders spout the sort of garbage heard recently on a show called Richard Land Live.

Land is the head of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, and – according to this report –  was joined on the show by the National Organization for Marriage’s Jennifer Roback Morse.

The demented duo took questions on a phone in, and let rip after a female called to thank him and Morse for fighting the “demon of homosexuality”.

Lunatics Land and Morse

Lunatics Land and Morse

Land agreed with the caller that:

The Devil takes pleasure in anything that causes destruction in human society and the homosexual lifestyle does cause destruction.

He went on to claim that homosexuality was at least partly responsible for the collapse of empires in the past:

It’s seen as one of the evidences in the decline of every empire we have seen; studies have shown it became rampant in the Persian Empire, the Greek Empire, the Roman Empire, the British Empire.

Land elaborated:

As you know many of the Roman religions, the idolatrous religions were sexual, and the priests were homosexuals and they worshiped in Corinth they had homosexual priests had these temples that were pre-Christian paganism.

Land and Morse said that they are working against a “secular theocracy” and “sexual nihilists”, with the SBC’s top “ethicist” maintaining that America is witnessing a return to “paganism”.

If you think that’s stoopid to the power of ten, get a load of what televangelist Robert Jeffress said when he apppeared on the Trinity Broadcasting Network’s flagship program Praise the Lord to discuss the opening of his new $130 million megachurch campus – yes, the very one New York Jets quarterback  “Johnny Jesus” Tim Tebow ran a mile from after discovering that Jeffress is as mad as a shithouse rat.

And here’s the proof, from Jeffress’ own lips:

Think about this one time in heaven God was sitting up there with his sketch pad and he said, ‘you know I’m going to design human beings and would it be fun of they started doing this together with one another. God dreamed up sex, He thought it up for our enjoyment, He gave us the equipment to enjoy it with.

He went on to claim that homosexuality is like plugging a TV into a 220-volt power outlet rather than the recommended 120 outlet “because those are antiquated instructions” and “it’s my TV and I can do whatever I want to with it.”

Jeffress added:

Well it is my TV to do what I want to with it but I’m going to blow that TV into smithereens if I put it in a 220 outlet.

Meanwhile it is reported that the Southern Baptist Convention’s polling arm LifeWay is out with a new poll revealing widespread support for gay rights, particularly among young people.

According to the survey, a clear majority of Americans believe that “homosexuality is a civil rights issue like gender, race and age”;  agree that same-sex marriage is “inevitable” and oppose employment discrimination against gays and lesbians.

• 64 percent of those polled agreed “it is inevitable that same-sex marriage will become legal throughout the United States.”

• “80 percent of Americans disagree that employers should be allowed to refuse employment to someone based on their sexual preference.”

• 58 percent of respondents agreed with the question: “like age, race, and gender, homosexuality is a civil rights issue.”

• A majority of Americans believe rental halls and landlords should not be allowed to discriminate against same-sex couples.

• “More Americans do not believe homosexual behavior is a sin than those who believe it is a sin.”

The poll also found that women, young people and people with college degrees were more likely to favour gay rights.

LifeWay’s survey appears to line up with a new bipartisan analysis of exit polls which found that opposition to marriage equality is concentrated among the elderly, white evangelical Christians and people without college degrees.

22 Responses to “Gay marriage has been spurred on by a ‘secular theocracy’. Oh, and Satan”

  1. remigius says:

    ‘He went on to claim that homosexuality is like plugging a TV into a 220-volt power outlet rather than the recommended 120 outlet…’

    It’s perfectly safe if you use protection.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stepdown-240-120V-Transformer-45VA/dp/B000NJ26X2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1363294169&sr=8-3

  2. Barry Duke says:

    While on the subject of sheer idiocy, clock this question from Catholic Norman Smith:

    “Although I try to keep up with what is going on in the world, and particularly in the church, I’m sure I miss a lot of significant developments which prompts this request: Can you or someone bring me up to date with a summary of what currently constitues (sic) the “sexual abuse crisis” in the church. I thought that the vast majority of the incidents ocurred in the 1990’s and before and that remedial steps have been taken. What then brings it back to the level of “crisis” at this time?

    It was in the form of a comment below a puke-inducing piece about Pope Francis in the National Catholic Register:

    http://tinyurl.com/cnrt8v5

  3. 1859 says:

    Barriejohn – let the idiots have their say – and as loud as possible – they’re secularism’s greatest asset.

  4. asquith says:

    Why is it always penetrative anal sex that comes to these tits’ minds when they talk about heterosexuality? As if there weren’t dozens of things a homosexual couple could do together, just like it’s rare for heterosexual couples to engage solely in the missionary position for their entire lives.

  5. asquith says:

    *”when they talk about homosexuality”

  6. Matt Westwood says:

    “Well it is my TV to do what I want to with it but I’m going to blow that TV into smithereens if I put it in a 220 outlet.”

    Actually a lot of modern electronic pieces of equipment are designed so that they automatically detect what they’re plugged into and adjust their operation accordingly. Even more common are those pieces of equipment which have a little switch at the back which allow you to select which mains source you have.

    But is it AC or DC? you may be tempted to ask …

  7. barriejohn says:

    @1859: Did you mean Barry Duke? I haven’t posted here yet!

    For what it’s worth:

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/03/14/excommunicated-westboro-baptist-church-member-suggests-fred-phelps-might-be-gay/

  8. JohnMWhite says:

    Homosexuality destroyed the British empire? That’s news to… well, the British empire.

    And after going to great lengths to argue that homosexuality is sinful, disordered, damaging, demonic, deranged and going to destroy civilisation, I guarantee these abject cowards will balk at being called bigots.

    @Barry Duke – the capacity for Catholics to bury their head in the sand is rivaled only be extinct ancestors of the Ostrich whose remains now powers our cars. I can’t help but be wound up by such willful ignorance. When you’re splitting hairs over dates and magically managing to miss the fact that abuses were covered up, abusers shielded from prosecution and investigations purposefully impeded until the present day… you’re a terrible person who just wants to suck up to the big bully in the sky.

  9. Trevor Blake says:

    Perhaps Mr. Land and Mrs. Morse can help America turn back to Biblical sexual practices such as those found in Judges 21:7-11 and Judges 21:20-23 and 2 Samuel 12:7-8. Because, as Jesus said in Matthew 5:18-19 and Luke 16:17, the old laws apply eternally.

  10. John A says:

    ‘Last year, one in five Americans claimed they had no religious preference, more than double the number reported in 1990.’
    Those stats are very encouraging, but I didn’t realise so many are still of a religious persuasion in the USA; quite an eye opener. When you consider though the massive head start and foothold religiosity has over freethinking then the rapid progress in the demise of support for these monoliths of ignorance is indeed good news. Maybe the first time I’ve had to admit to myself, that people sitting in front of a computer for hours instead of getting off of their arses is actually more beneficial than I realised; these days with so much information so readily to hand ignorance is now just a choice, unless of course they’re stupid then that’s different.

  11. Matt Westwood says:

    ” … bury their head in the sand is rivaled only be extinct ancestors of the Ostrich …”

    Ostriches do not bury their heads in the sand. When hunting, then lower their heads to a few inches above ground so as better to see clearly and not have their vision disrupted by heat-haze. An early visitor to their native habitat didn’t look very closely at what they were doing and made one of the most bonebrained assumptions in what might laughingly be called “science”.

    Sorry to jump down your throat but I’m just still horrified that the above is not yet general knowledge. Think about it@: what possible evolutionary advantage would it afford an ostrich to bury its head at sight of danger? Tiger: “Ooh look, there’s an ostrich. That’s dinner sorted. Damn, it’s just buried its head. Scratch that. Suppose I’d better have monkey for dinner tonight instead.”

  12. barriejohn says:

    Trevor Blake: Yes, why do they ignore most of what the Old Testament says and become so fixated with same-sex attraction? There has to be a lot of repressed homosexuality and self-loathing going on here.

    “And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him.” (Mark 10:2 AV)

    You don’t have to believe that Jesus himself had anything to say on this subject, or even necessarily existed, to realize that the problems surroundng divorce were evident at least 1600 years ago! If two people marry and become one in the eyes of God, how can they then split up? If they have sex with someone else then they are guilty of adultery, and we all know what the Old Testament had to say about that. I do know strict evangelical Christians who adhere to this view, but most shrug their shoulders and say that an exeption has to be made when a marriage breaks down. But they still adopt a hard line where homosexuality is concerned. God abhors it, but he’s prepared to turn a blind eye to adultery. How very odd!

  13. Stephen Mynett says:

    @MattW, I believe the only animal stupid enough was the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast who could be warded off by wrapping a towel round your head. It assumed it could not see you if you could not see it.

    I wonder how many of these adherents of the old and new testaments realise that their books are not half as funny or as well written than Douglas Adams’ Hitchiker’s series. Of course, they have already failed to realise they are not true.

  14. JamesB says:

    “The kind of man who wants the government to adopt and enforce his ideas is always the kind of man whose ideas are idiotic” – HL Mencken

  15. Angela_K says:

    “Secular Theocracy” Land and Morse are so dim they don’t even realise that is a sort of non-sequitur. Also look at other words they use: demon and devil as though they were real. I don’t know about everyone else here, but I’ve seen no evidence of either, nor any gods, the tooth fairy, Leprechauns…

    What is it with religious nutters and homosexuality, why so much hate? Is it because the majority of Gay people have no need of religion or as I suspect the religious desire to control everybody so they conform to the perverted religious world-view.

    Land and Morse look a right barrel of laughs.

  16. Stephen Mynett says:

    The latter mainly I think Angela, Religion is totally about control. The homosexual hatred is probably because they are frightened to accept what they may be – how many homophobes turn out to be closet homosexuals?

  17. Marky Mark says:

    (Religion is totally about control)
    …I also believe it is the PACK mentality that once had its benefits in the survival of our species. The “Us against Them”, creating fear and hate for another group competing for the same resources.
    If one has a magical being to worship, they can justify and be convinced into the unnatural act of taking lives for resources…the modern religious leaders use this same instinct for greed.

    Look at how competing high-school students will fight with another school than are best friends in collage, but willing to fight with another collage together.

  18. Matt Westwood says:

    “I wonder how many of these adherents of the old and new testaments realise that their books are not half as funny or as well written than Douglas Adams’ Hitchiker’s series. Of course, they have already failed to realise they are not true.”

    Adams was an amateur. For true spiritual enlightenment, read Pratchett.

  19. Roq says:

    Adams was a genius. Pratchett is a Real Ale twat in a naff fedora.

  20. Matt Westwood says:

    … and Roq is one of those pricks who injects “42!” into as many conversations he can and thinks it’s both funny and original.

  21. Ex Patriot says:

    When reading about asshats like these two, it makes me proud that I have Athiest for at least 90% of my life. To me religion is nothing more than a poison which fouls all it touches and always will, and I think it may also desteoy more brain cells in a person than alcohol is said to.