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The notion that young ‘kaffur’ women are ‘easy meat’ lay at the heart of a Muslim paedophile ring

SEVEN members of a sadistic Muslim paedophile ring in Oxford are to be sentenced on June 26 after they were convicted in the Old Bailey this week of of a catalogue of offences including conspiracy to rape, child prostitution and trafficking over an eight year period.

Their victims – vulnerable schoolgirls – were plucked from the streets and care homes to be drugged, raped and sold into prostitution in the university city of Oxford.

Judge Peter Rook warned them:

You have been convicted of the most serious offences. Long custodial sentences are inevitable.

Two sets of brothers, Akhtar Dogar, 32, and Anjum Dogar, 31, and Mohammed Karrar, 38, and Bassam Karrar, 33, were convicted along with Kamar Jamil, 27, Assad Hussain, 32, and Zeeshan Ahmed, 27.

The seven convicted members of the Oxford paedophile ring

The seven convicted members of the Oxford paedophile ring

Fighting broke out in the dock at the Old Bailey after two other defendants  – Mohammed Hussain, 25, and a man who cannot be named for legal reasons – were cleared. Zeeshan Ahmed struck out at Mohammed Hussain before being bundled out of the dock by officers.

After the verdict, former Labour MP Ann Cryer faced criticism for blaming the Oxford paedophile ring on “cultural practices imported” from Pakistan.

Thames Valley Police Chief Constable Sara Thornton warned about making generalisations about the men’s background, saying similar abuse can happen “across the community”.

But Cryer, who has campaigned on child grooming issues, said:

It’s cultural practices that have been imported into this country from Pakistan and we must not lose sight of that fact. We can’t just turn a blind eye to it.

Speaking on a BBC Five Live phone-in, Cryer claimed there was a “very paternalistic culture in Pakistan,” saying not many women had voted in the recent elections there.

She went on to claim that Pakistani communities in the North of England had:

Imported the view that women are not worth much and therefore they do not care too much about what happens to them.

Her views were criticised by the next caller, who said:

It’s shocking that you could demonise an entire culture with the behaviour of a few evil individuals from that culture.

There was also a backlash on Twitter, with many users criticising presenter Nicky Campbell for failing to challenge her.

But the most damning imdictment of Islam’s role in this horrible case came from Dr Taj Hargey, a MUSLIM community leader and imam at the Oxford Islamic Congregation. Writing in the Daily Mail, he said:

The fact is that the vicious activities of the Oxford ring are bound up with religion and race: religion, because all the perpetrators, though they had different nationalities, were Muslim; and race, because they deliberately targeted vulnerable white girls, whom they appeared to regard as ‘easy meat’, to use one of their revealing, racist phrases.

Indeed, one of the victims who bravely gave evidence in court told a newspaper afterwards that ‘the men exclusively wanted white girls to abuse’.
But as so often in fearful, politically correct modern Britain, there is a craven unwillingness to face up to this reality.

He added:

Moreover, reputable studies show that around 26 percent of those involved in grooming and exploitation rings are Muslims, which is around five times higher than the proportion of Muslims in the adult male population.

To pretend that this is not an issue for the Islamic community is to fall into a state of ideological denial.

But then part of the reason this scandal happened at all is precisely because of such politically correct thinking. All the agencies of the state, including the police, the social services and the care system, seemed eager to ignore the sickening exploitation that was happening before their eyes.

Hat tip: BarrieJohn

42 Responses to “The notion that young ‘kaffur’ women are ‘easy meat’ lay at the heart of a Muslim paedophile ring”

  1. [...] Seven members of a Muslim paedophile ring in Oxford, England, have been found guilty of a catalogue of child sex abuse charges. They targeted young white girls are are awaiting sentence. More on the case here. [...]

  2. the Woggler says:

    These guys were Muslims. Whilst not every Muslim practices the vile trade these monsters did – far from it – the fact that they are Muslims is part of the make-up that lead them to it.

    There, I’ve said it.

  3. Angela_K says:

    Islam hates women and no matter what muslims, the apologists of the BBC and hard left say, this is a fact.

    I’m certainly no fan of the BNP but a few years ago they were vilified for presenting evidence of muslim pedophile grooming gangs abusing young girls.

    And as the old race card has been flashed yet again this shows the most and least racist countries: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325502/Map-shows-worlds-racist-countries-answers-surprise-you.html Sorry it’s the Mail.

  4. barriejohn says:

    We are not allowed to say that these people are Muslim. One obviously can’t comment much on the following story, not knowing what the remarks were that were posted on the internet, but the tone of the police commander’s comment is very worrying:

    http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/crime/2013/05/16/second-man-arrested-over-muslim-prayer-centre-facebook-comments/?

    I would urge anyone else who is considering putting any comments on social media to think very carefully before you post anything.

    If you think what you write may be seen by others as offensive or potentially racist, then simply don’t risk putting it on there. If you do, there’s a chance that someone may make a complaint to the police about what you have written and we are obliged to investigate it. (My emphasis)

  5. the Woggler says:

    Islam is not a race. You don’t have to be Middle Eastern to be a Muslim. Therefore, being disparaging about Muslims is not racist.

  6. Lazy+Susan says:

    If the Police are “obliged to investigate” anything that “may be seen by others as offensive” … I can think of a few posts I’d like to bring to their attention.

  7. barriejohn says:

    Start complaining then!

  8. Pagan Pete says:

    So is it “racist” or “islamophobic” to point out that the Qur’an positively endorses the taking of kuffar sex-slaves “what your right hand posseses” 4:3?

    And pre-pubescent girls? Just following the leadership and example of their “perfect man” good old Mo’ again.

    Oh, how I sometimes wish I could return to my own personal state of Jahiliyyah back in pre-911 days when I knew nothing more about this gang of deluded murderous medieval f*ckwits other than they were allegedly the “religion of peace”…

  9. Dess says:

    @Pagan Pete
    I couldn’t agree with you more.

  10. barriejohn says:

    Same with the Israelis/Zionists. One word of criticism and you’re “antisemitic”!

  11. Broga says:

    Yep, you musn’t generalise and offend the sensitivities of minority cultures. But let me speculate on the lack of enthusiasm of the police and social services when they were asked to take action to protect these abominably abused your girls. The first reason is that neither the police nor Social Services would want to offend the cultural sensitivities of the muslim community. They would be hyper careful a they continue to be about the abomination of FGM.

    The second reason has two parts. The first is that the victims were female and that immediately, as a reflex response, downgrades them. The second is that that they are – how shall I put this? – lower class, with ill educated parents and the clients, potential or actual, of the euphemistically describes care system. Suppose their parents were middle class professionals, educated, knowing how to get to those who can take action. The result would have been very different. We live in a country run by posh boys who are more likely to want to protect millionaire bankers than unwashed kids from the sink estates.

    It is easy and convenient to ignore the inarticulate plebs.

  12. T says:

    What the fuck to people expect when islam absolutely represses integration and equality of the sexes. Male muslims have no idea how to deal with women, are sexually repressed to the point of abnormality, brainwashed and indoctrinated to the edge of mental breakdown. I was friendly with a Pakistani muslim at one time but you did not have to scratch far below the surface of his veneer of respectability to find the ruthless sexual predator. He treated women with shocking callousness and actually encouraged his two boys to look upon women and girls, especially white ones, as the raw materials of sexual gratification. These people think its perfectly ok to have a good time and make some dosh on the side trafficking and selling white trash girls to other repressed perverts.

  13. Matt+Westwood says:

    “It’s shocking that you could demonise an entire culture with the behaviour of a few evil individuals from that culture.”

    Yes, the entire culture is dusgusting and deserves to be utterly, utterly destroyed. Ay-rabs are even worse than Merkins.

  14. David Anderson says:

    Matt+Westwood: Matt, shame on you, you know better than that. Not all Ay-rabs are Muslim and not all Muslims are Ay-rab.
    Islam is the culprit and so is all religion.

  15. RussellW says:

    The length of the sentences imposed will be an indicator of the degree of multi-culti infection in British society.

    Some years ago, here in Australia, the leader of a gang of Moslem sexual predators was sentenced to more than 30 years in jail and his accomplices also received lengthy terms.

    What amazed me was the attitude of those vermin—they actually thought that “Kuffar” women were fair game.

  16. RussellW says:

    The length of the sentences imposed will be an indicator of the degree of multi-culti infection in British society.

    Some years ago, here in Australia, the leader of a gang of Moslem sexual predators was sentenced to more than 30 years in jail and his accomplices also received lengthy terms.

    What amazed me was the attitude of those vermin—they actually thought that “Kuffar” women were fair game.

  17. Trevor Blake says:

    “If you fear that you will not act justly towards the orphans, marry such women as seem good to you, two, three, four; but if you fear you will not be equitable, then only one, or what your right hands own; so it is likelier you will not be partial.” (Qur’an 4:3)

    Sex slavery? Allah approves. These are not the words of an ‘extremist’ or a ‘minority.’ These are direct, in-context quotes from the same Qur’an used by every Muslim on planet Earth. Sex slavery is mainstream Islam. It is the Muslim minority who have adopted (modern / secular / Western) morality who pervert the religion and abandon sex slavery.

  18. JohnMWhite says:

    The issue about Islam not being a race is a canard; racism has a more nuanced definition than people saying “I don’t like him because of his colour”. It is a childish semantic argument to say that it is not racist to stereotype and denigrate Muslims in general, particularly those from a specific region, as if it ‘technically’ not being racist makes it ok. Ethnicity and culture are not one and the same, but they go hand in hand and cannot simply be pulled apart when you want an excuse to whine about political correctness and demonise some people you don’t like.

    Having said that, it is not remotely inaccurate to say that these men got their idea that women are property from their religious faith and the culture surrounding it. It is also not inaccurate to say that this ‘import’ was surplus to requirements, since they came to an obstinately Christian country, and Christianity is just as contemptuous of women and young people. British culture is not nearly so malicious to women, but British culture is separating itself from Abrahamic religious trappings, so that’s no great surprise. British culture doesn’t have a book backing it that says women are property; Islam and Christianity do.

    barriejohn’s quote from the Shropshire Star is deeply concerning. While I do not like the rather simplistic attitude certain people have to Muslims, it is not for me to tell them what they can and cannot say, only to push back with what I think of what they say. The idea of the police threatening, pre-emptively no less, that speech deemed offensive will be dealt with by them is truly sinister. They are purposefully aiming to have a chilling effect, and they must not be allowed to get away with it. The police in the United Kingdom seem so afraid of doing their job that they will dream up any excuse to deal with the most trivial of matters, and to criminalise things that are perfectly legitimate rights rather than investigate real crimes like the collapse of the economy. Nobody has the right to go through life without being offended, and the police have absolutely no place trying to control people’s expression of opinion. Frankly, fuck the police.

  19. Equality Jack says:

    I have no doubt that were I to give free rein to my outrage, my face would become rather pale and blotchy and other physiological expressions of my emotional state would then become manifest, leading to relatively negative effects, so I shall refrain.
    Seeing these stories of kidnapping, torture, and murder done to children sort of make me go total apeshit and all I want to do is rip the guts from these sadistic monsters with my bare fucking hands…so I’ll just leave it at that.

  20. Robster says:

    These men at least should be sentenced to a shave and a bath. Followed by a spray of scent de bacon.

  21. Great+Satan says:

    These sick excuses for “men” will be back on the streets at the end of their sentences at taxpayer’s expense, possibly to start re-offending, and with their victims fearing they will bump into them or be the subject of revenge attacks …. no, this is unnacceptable, they have displayed by their behaviour they are unfit to live in a civilised society such as Britain, and should be deported back to their medieval homelands after doing hard labour.

  22. Matt+Westwood says:

    “Matt+Westwood: Matt, shame on you, you know better than that. Not all Ay-rabs are Muslim and not all Muslims are Ay-rab.
    Islam is the culprit and so is all religion.”

    The question is, why the knee-jerk reaction to “racism is bad”? I contend that in the case of these disgusting people it’s good. The race, the religion and the culture is so bound up in a oneness of filth that it’s really splitting hairs to object to one and not the other. Arabs, pakis – damn them all.

  23. barriejohn says:

    I posted this link on the wrong thread earlier this morning. Someone else did allude to it:

    http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2013/05/census-analysis-shows-christianity-in-dramatic-decline-whilst-a-youthful-muslim-population-is-on-the-rise

    As I said – first the good news; then the bad news.

  24. stargraves says:

    OK so I’m a lefty – I’m a trades unionist and equality officer. I even work at an ecumenical institution despite my devout atheism. I thoroughly support the European Convention on Human Rights and the UK being in the EU.

    At NO point though – has any fellow lefty invited me to the meetings on how to allow Islam to overrun the UK, muslim men to form rape gangs, or indeed, how we should turn a blind eye to it all. So I don’t get the Left-bashing that I hear in regard to these crimes.

    How come the police arrest people criticising Islam? How come the judiciary – the vast majority of whom, like the police, also happen to be pillars of the right-wing in our society – give them pathetically insulting sentences? There’s nothing inherently left-wing about ignoring shocking crimes! If anything the left is far more humanitarian than the right – as the labour movement was, after all, the product of the intellectual elite in response to human rights abuses, and changed society for the good.

    I’m as disgusted by these crimes as anyone – and the statistics bear out the fact that Ann Cryer is right to highlight the backgrounds of these paedo scum.

    Also – our society does indeed benefit from being multi-cultural and multi-racial; we have a huge skills gap in sciences and engineering, computer programming, etc – all positions where people from developed countries can contribute.

    BUT importing racist, misogynist, homophobic child rapists – has never been on the agenda of any left wing conference I’ve attended.

  25. barriejohn says:

    BUT importing racist, misogynist, homophobic child rapists – has never been on the agenda of any left wing conference I’ve attended.

    No, but it has happened, hasn’t it? Peter Mandelson has alleged that New Labour was sending out “search parties” to attract immigrants who would support the left and change the political makeup of the country. It is not only EDL supporters who are not happy with some of the changes that this has brought about.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10055613/Labour-sent-out-search-parties-for-immigrants-Lord-Mandelson-admits.html

  26. Lazy+Susan says:

    Matt Westwood – “Arabs, pakis – damn them all.” – I really object to this attitude.

  27. JohnMWhite says:

    Get a hold of yourself, Matt Westwood. You are free to say whatever you wish (unless Barry Duke determines otherwise) but how can you not see that outbursts like that are undermining this place? The last thing we need is for theistic apologists to have ammunition to write off free thinkers as a bunch of racist bigots, and in your case they would be completely right to do so.

  28. Equality Jack says:

    What? Arabs are not a race, nor are Pakistanis.
    To say damn them all is not racist nor a crime of any sort other than the crime of leaving out all the other Muslims of other countries. Being anti-religion or anti-members-of-foreign-countries is not illegal in the UK, is it?

    Look, you people have got to realize that these Muslims invading your country are not there to be good citizens.

    They are enemy agents sent to set up forward operating bases.
    They are of no particular “race” other than human. They are agents of a foreign power who view your laws with contempt.

    Don’t bend over backwards to allow these enemy agents move freely amongst you, even letting them get positions in government! That is just insane! Fucking batshit INSANE!

    That is the most insane aspect of all this.
    You should be purging all Muslims from the UK and leading the fight for safety for your children.

    Lazy+Susan, I’m sure it was angry hyperbole on Matt’s part, so why object? Must everyone’s attitude be pleasing to you?

    JohnMWhite, what stupid religious bint is ever going to sound credible with anything they say about the atheists they hate?

    Why seek to stifle the free thinking and speech of Matt?

    Anyone trying to paint the whole website as being in lockstep with one person amongst dozens who comment here is, frankly, outrageous and just bloody bonkers.

    I can’t think of anyone who would be so stupid as to argue from the specific to the general like that, or at least be afraid of clueless religious gits who might argue like that, so I’m sure you just need to have a cup and think about it for a bit.

    How many terrorist attacks must you Brits suffer before you realize that anyone following the Muslim religion is following a psychotic criminal code and as such the religion deserves no respect and should be grounds for deportation?

    As a humanist, I do wish we could get psychiatric healing to all religious people, but until then, the best and most non-violent thing you can do is point out their madness while kicking them out of your country for good. Religious freedom is bad because religion is mental illness. I do not consider, at any time, religion to be deserving of any respect whatsoever.

    *Just to remind the powers-that-be, I am an American living in America. I am not constrained by your laws. We have anti-hate crime laws here. I am not violating those.
    I do bang on about it all, don’t I? Catharsis is cathartic.

  29. Stephen Mynett says:

    As interesting as the quotes in previous post were, I have been advised that this bloke is a bit of a twerp and not exactly a reliable source. Although what he said about the PC liberals is valid.

  30. Matt+Westwood says:

    @JohnMWhite: Fair comment. We need to be seen as rational, however angry and full of hate we are inside.

    But honestly, I just really, really, really want to hurt these people very badly indeed.

    They’re nasty young men who think they have an excuse for behaving very badly. As such they need to be killed. It would not be murder, it would be extermination of vermin.

  31. Matt+Westwood says:

    “How many terrorist attacks must you Brits suffer before you realize that anyone following the Muslim religion is following a psychotic criminal code …?”

    We’re starting to wise up.

    Besides, it’s just more of the same as what we had in the 70′s and 80′s (mainly) with regard to another nasty little conflict we had for “religious” reasons (except it was really political with “religious” just used as an excuse), so we’re by-and-large used to it, and we cope pretty well.

    We ruefully watch with quite some concern your own recent similar experiences with this sort of thing, and if it goes on, you too will, as a nation, get used to it and learn how to combat it effectively. Which does not mean getting a bunch of ill-trained emotionally immature members of quasi-military security teams to feel up passengers at airports.

  32. Equality Jack says:

    Well, I was hoping you Brits would lead the way, since it doesn’t really look too promising for our neck of the woods.

    But I understand about being in a comfort zone and coping rather than marching in the streets. I think that is what 90 percent of the people on the internet are doing anyway.

    My apologies to anyone who was taken aback by my long rant.

  33. Lazy+Susan says:

    Equality Jack – The point about Arabs and Pakis is that these are things you are born into and cannot change. So hating them all is like racism, sexism, homophobia or any of the other nasties that we associate with religion. But belonging to a religion does have some choice about it; people do change.

    “I’m sure it was angry hyperbole on Matt’s part, so why object? Must everyone’s attitude be pleasing to you?”

    There’s something ironic about you objecting to my objecting. No, everyone’s attitude must not be pleasing to me. I did not try to silence Matt. No-one suggested he should be banned or moderated. His opinion is still there for everyone to see. I voiced my objection because silence is often taken for consent, and I strongly don’t consent to what he said and I want him to know that.

    I agree with most of what you said about Muslims; but I do think we get nowhere fast by calling them “rats” or other non-humans. They are people and for that they deserve respect. Their ideas are shit, and for that we may end up having to fight to the death. I hope not.

    Re apologies for your rant – no apologies needed, no harm done, robust exchange of ideas is what this website is about.

  34. Equality Jack says:

    LS – I can see how you might view it as nastiness. It is nasty.
    But can’t there be ethical violence and opposition against someone or something in self-defense?
    Must every bit of violent emotion, action, or whatnot be considered as unacceptable to a rational and ethical person?
    Must we accept these acts of war? Must we let these enemy agents move freely amongst us, plotting and killing and kidnapping and all that? And for what? To protect their rights to kill us before we can expel them out of every allied country? Is that a right?
    I’m sorry, but I am too paranoid to ignore these distorted human beings who seek to do such horrible things as an accepted part of their culture. This is more than just a culture war when their criminal code says to kill.
    I would say they can have their rights when they are far far away. Our safety demands pre-emptive action.
    You can’t save anyone if you refuse to act until everything is over and people are dead.
    This is not a courtroom, this is a battlefield.
    Bodies are already all over the place. Do you have any ideas on how we should look at all of it?
    What should we do about these people who are brainwashed into a criminal religion?
    There are over a billion Muslims. You can only bend backwards so far before you fall on your prat. Theocracy is the vast majority goal of all Muslims in the world.
    That means your whole government and way of life are at stake sometime in the cloudy future unless you deny them that avenue of attack beforehand. Afterwards would be too late.
    Alarmist? Yes. Paranoid? Yes. Realistic? You decide.

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  36. Equality Jack says:

    If I did not feel so threatened I would not react so violently.
    The threat is also towards those poor children who are tortured to death as part of the Muslim culture and religion, so I can’t quite manage to accord any rights to these people.

    By extension, it is to a lesser degree that I feel threatened by other religions and their adherents on a sub-group basis.

    How can you trust someone who believes it their duty to lie to everyone?
    How can you trust someone who feels that putting their hand on a child means they own that child and can torture them to death?

    Is the Muslim religion something that should be considered the same as other religions? I don’t think so. I’m for equality pretty strongly, but I have run out of respect for anyone who can follow the Muslim religion knowing what they know.
    You say they have a choice, but they don’t. They kill apostates and beat the religion into them until they are all violent and brainwashed. Their minds are not their own.
    So how do you fight people whose minds are not their own?
    How do you keep them from murdering your children?
    If you want me to view them as someone to have compassion for, I’m afraid I can’t quite do it anymore.
    They are no better than robots with dangerous chips in their heads. I can’t fix them or heal them because no one wants to do anything in that direction, so I am left with few options to defend myself. Crazy people are dangerous.
    If you have any ideas on how to deal with dangerous crazy people, I’d be very glad to hear them.

  37. Marky Mark says:

    There are dick-heads in every group…including religious and non-religious. The difference being, the non-religious are more likely to look at a situation with critical thinking as apposed to blind faith.

    And this is why fanatics can more easily manipulate a group using blind faith…it is a breeding ground for psychopathic personalities to succeed no mater what their religion.

    The Christians who bomb abortion clinics are no different than the Islamic’s that bomb non-Islamics.

    A psychopath test is needed for all religious groups…To weed out the crazy and greedy.

  38. Lazy+Susan says:

    Equality Jack – I see religion as something like Communism. That was a bogey man for all of my childhood and most of my adulthood – and it was a nuclear-armed bogeyman. Now there are still two large communist countries (or empires) but the endless terror of nuclear war has receded. Russia is not the power it was, and in my opinion both Russia and China are moving inexorably towards a more liberal democratic future. When people gain power by fixing ballots, I take it as a good sign, because it shows that ballots are important. China has never been expansionist, and has enough on its hands managing its increasing prosperity.

    You are worried by the threat of Islam coming and changing your way of life. But it’s a two-way process. Muslims come to the west, no doubt full of fervour, but the changes happen to the Muslims as much as to the west. Even if they breed like crazy, the children they produce are not clones, they are individuals who act and react to life to make their own destiny. I’m not saying the west will not be changed, but I don’t think it will become like Pakistan today. Also, when a religion’s numbers increase, sooner or later it schisms. And then the schisms fight each other more fiercely than the fight anything else. There is no united front.

    So, I don’t think the future is necessarily all pleasant and peaceful. It would be the first time ever if it was. But I don’t think it is as simple to predict as you suggest. Nor do I think that our current way of life is so good that any change must be for the worse.

    There is one possibility that I do find worrying, and that is the possibility of a totally religious world, where science is forbidden. This would be a world of poverty, disease, and ignorance, coupled with enormous power and wealth concentrated in the churches. A kind of Dark Ages all over again. What worries me about it is that I think such a world would be stable, ie likely to last indefinitely. I believe we got out of the last Dark Ages because of the Protestant schism in Europe. I don’t know how likely that is to repeat.

  39. Equality Jack says:

    L+S, your post is very sensible, but only touches the surface and didn’t appear to include any ideas on how to deal with crazy people in an effective way, which I was hoping to see.

    I want to put an end to all brainwashing, starting with Islam.
    I want to protect all children, even if it means stopping all births by crazy people. No more victims for the crazies.
    I want to see comprehensive solutions to all forms of mental illness, because letting crazy flourish is crazy.
    I want lots of stuff I will never see.

  40. Bubblecar says:

    “If anything the left is far more humanitarian than the right”

    Except when it comes to Islam. And then you side with the poor muslims against the “American tyrants” and the “disgusting Jews” etc. Why, is anyone’s guess, but it’s the Left’s accommodation of Islamism that has basically destroyed their credibility for a generation or two. I used to think of myself as Left but certainly don’t these days. Being a friend to the most misogynistic, homophobic, inhuman & violent superstitious bullshit currently oppressing the world is not my idea of ideological purity, by a very, very long chalk.