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UK Muslims told in a nationwide sermon that child sex abuse is ‘un-Islamic’

FOLLOWING lengthy jail sentences imposed yesterday on seven Muslim thugs who ran a paedophile ring in Oxford, today worshippers at 500 mosques across the UK heard a sermon in which they were warned to:

Shun evil, wrongdoing and all forms of indecent and immoral behaviour.

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Organised by not-for-profit group Together Against Grooming (Tag), it warned of a backlash as a result of cases of sexual grooming involving mainly men of a Pakistani or South Asian background.

But there were rumblings of discontent over the sermon. According to the BBC Sheikh Ibrahim Mogra, an imam at Abu Bakr Mosque in Leicester, said:

People were troubled by us reading the sermon and one man asked me how he could stop it being read. He said ‘it was not our fault this had happened, our religion does not teach us to do these things and we are condemning it’. But as I said to him our only option is to speak out about it.

Monawar Hussain, founder of The Oxford Foundation, which runs educational programmes to promote religious and social harmony, said the sermon was a “fundamental error of judgement” that would play into the hands of far-right groups.

Hussain, imam at Eton College, said:

Our view is that there is no Muslim on the face of this earth that does not already know that child sexual abuse is evil and wicked: this is normal standard teaching in most mosques. There is a terrible danger that far-right groups will point to this and say ‘I told you so’.

Sentencing the seven men who abused the girls as part of a gang, Judge Peter Rook said:

These were sexual crimes of the utmost gravity. The depravity was extreme, each victim was groomed, coerced and intimidated.

Judge Rook jailed brothers Akhtar Dogar, 32, and Anjum Dogar, 31, for a minimum of 17 years telling them they had been found guilty of “exceptionally grave crimes”.

Mohammed Karrar was given life with a minimum of 20 years for the 18 “dreadful offences” he committed, including raping a child under 13.

His brother Bassam Karrar, was jailed for life with a minimum of 15 years.

Kamar Jamil, 27, was jailed for life with a minimum term of 12 years. Assad Hussain, 32, and Zeeshan Ahmed, 27, were both jailed for seven years.

The judge said the gang, all of whom were of Pakistani or north African origin, had targeted vulnerable girls, and said on occasions “the depravity was extreme”.

You targeted the young girls because they were vulnerable, underage and out-of-control.

He said each of the six victims had shown “enormous courage” in giving evidence during the trial.

Hat tip: BarrieJohn

23 Responses to “UK Muslims told in a nationwide sermon that child sex abuse is ‘un-Islamic’”

  1. barriejohn says:

    You’d need to be told that this was wrong, wouldn’t you? The case was debated at length on the BBC Asian Network, with some leaders apparently in a state of complete denial regarding the problem!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b02yj2tb

  2. Matt+Westwood says:

    Why should they not have to sit through a sermon about it? After all, we hippies have to sit through hours and hours of blethering nitwittering about the Evils of Drugs by Poppycocking Head after Poppycocking Head on the idiot-box, why shouldn’t the same approach be used on other unpopular social minorities?

  3. Trevor Blake says:

    1. When has an anti-Muslim backlash happened in the West? Ever? One isolated case is one too many, but the systematic and authority-based backlash that Muslim groups constantly shout about has yet to materialize. The only people who oppress Muslims on a systematic basis are other Muslims (such as the multi-century warfare between Sunni and Shia).

    2. “Our religion does not teach us to do these things.” That is a bald faced lie and Imam Mogra knows it. Mohammed bought Aisha when she was six years old and raped her when she was nine. Because the leader of their religion raped children, the Muslim government of Afghanistan just voted against raising the age of consent laws.

    3. I reject utterly that the choice is between being a pro-pedophilia Muslim or a far-right extremist. This is how the debate is being phrased and I will not sign on to either of those camps.

    4. “There is no Muslim on the face of this earth that does not already know that child sexual abuse is evil and wicked: this is normal standard teaching in most mosques.” This is a bald faced lie and Imam Hussain knows it. The Quran supports enslavement of women (4:15, 4:24, 23:1-6). The Quran supports beating women (4:34, 38:44). And the Quran is the final unchanging foundation of Islam (11:1).

    Lan Astaslem!

  4. Chuck Longstreth says:

    Now, if we can just manage to teach the Vatican that paedophilia is evil we will be getting someplace!

  5. remigius says:

    Our view is that there is no Muslim on the face of this earth that does not already know that child sexual abuse is evil and wicked: this is normal standard teaching in most mosques.

    Yeah, but what about Prophet Mohammed?

    You know, that violent, mentally ill, woman hating, paedophile on the flying horse!

  6. Angela_K says:

    “….child sexual abuse is evil and wicked” Unless the victims are kaffir.

    The fact the Mosques have to deliver a sermon about raping children shows quite clearly what is wrong with their ideology.

  7. barriejohn says:

    Angela_K: And people are falling over themselves to congratulate them, too! Has the world gone mad?

  8. remigius says:

    And people are falling over themselves to congratulate them, too! Has the world gone mad?

    Yep!

  9. Robster says:

    One gets the impression that be a “religious person” one needs to do nothing more than make up stories and tell a symphony of lies. The whole nasty show is lies, they lie about the god/prophet/holy spook nonsense, they lie about their preferred prophet’s child molestation, they pretend stuff for no reason other than it’s written in an old book fabricated by bronze-age goat herders and spend their adult lives playing ‘Let’s Pretend’. Can’t be good for a persons sanity.

  10. Geoff Trescott says:

    Islam is a scourge that should never be introduced by way of immigration into Western countries. It has virtually ruined the Netherlands, is on its way to ruining the UK and Australia has seen the dark (and only)side of Islam. Before this vermin arrived in Australia, we didn’t have a ‘Middle-Eastern Crime Squad’.
    Like all revealed religions, it is pure human fabrication and has no place in a ‘civilised’ world. If they wish to live like goat-herders and goat-f@#*%!s and adhere to the beliefs of stupefied peasants 2000 years ago in their own countries – let them.
    We want no part of it, least of all do our women, who are valued and educated members of our society, but disparaged as whores and harlots by our Muslim immigrants.

  11. Angela_K says:

    And these are the same people who continuously whine that without religion there would be no morals. The religious idea of morals is whatever fits in with their dogma, while us the enlightened, get our morals from a common sense and respect for humanity.

  12. barriejohn says:

    Angela: Tut! Tut! If it weren’t for the Bible how would we know that murder was wrong?

  13. David Anderson says:

    Next week’s sermón; Abuse, violence and murder are not acceptable actions against people who don’t believe or conform with your religión.

  14. Gerry Hill says:

    Everywhere it says 500 mosques. Last I heard, the sermon was being sent to a few involved mosques (tens?)and offered to a total of some 500. Was there a 100% take-up then?

  15. Harry says:

    “Our view is that there is no Muslim on the face of this earth that does not already know that child sexual abuse is evil and wicked”

    Which is the problem. While you deny that some don’t already know this it won’t go away.

  16. Matt+Westwood says:

    “Next week’s sermón; Abuse, violence and murder are not acceptable actions against people who don’t believe or conform with your religión.”

    On the other hand, nobody cares much about what you barbarians do to each other. As long as you don’t go shooting schoolgirls in the head, civilised society tends to look a bit askance at that.

  17. Larry Honn says:

    Angela: Tut! Tut! If it weren’t for the Bible how would we know that murder was wrong?

    Total Bull Shit…you can’t be that stupid!

  18. Daz says:

    Barriejohn, how do you manage to attract so many apparently irony-blind commenters?

  19. barriejohn says:

    Daz: It’s a gift. You’d think that the “Tut! Tut!” was a bit of a giveaway, wouldn’t you?

    Next week’s sermón; Abuse, violence and murder are not acceptable actions against people who don’t believe or conform with your religión.

    I don’t think they’ve said that, have they?

  20. Angela_K says:

    @barriejohn. Yes, some people just don’t understand irony.

  21. David Anderson says:

    barriejohn; My comment was a stab at sarcasm aimed at the utterings of Monawar Hussain and others. Obviously it failed.