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US mayor equates atheists with Nazis

US mayor equates atheists with Nazis

Oh, and the Ku Klux Klan

THE  American Civil Liberties Union in Michigan and two other groups have filed a federal lawsuit seeking an injunction against a Michigan city’s ban on an atheist booth in a municipal building.

The groups said the Detroit suburb of Warren lets a church group run a “prayer station,” distribute religious materials, discuss religious beliefs and pray with visitors in a City Hall atrium but refuses to let atheist Douglas Marshall use the same space.

Americans United for Separation of Church and State and the Freedom from Religion Foundation also are part of the lawsuit in US District Court that says Marshall’s request in April to install a “reason station” was rejected by Mayor Jim Fouts (above).

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Said Dan Korobkin, ACLU of Michigan deputy legal director:

Once the government opens public space for use by private groups, it cannot pick and choose who can use the space based on the content of their message or whether public officials agree with that message.

He added:

The city cannot allow speech supportive of religion and reject speech supportive of atheism.

Fouts told The Associated Press last Wednesday that Marshall’s “reason station” would be diametrically opposed to prayer.

The city has certain values that I don’t believe are in general agreement with having an atheist station, nor in general agreement with having a Nazi station or Ku Klux Klan station. I cannot accept or will not allow a group that is disparaging of another group to have a station here.

Just so you know, Mayor Fouts, 71 recently suffered a brain bleed when he fell down jogging. Whether this prompted his idiotic outburst is anyone’s guess.

23 responses to “US mayor equates atheists with Nazis”

  1. L.Long says:

    The comment shows at the least that he is stupid when it comes to the idea of what atheist are and what the Nazis or the KKK are or were. Comparing 2 highly xtian organizations to atheism is saying I don’t know anything about either.
    And if this can be seen as evidence of the brain damage then get him out of office!!!

  2. Canada Dave says:

    “I cannot accept or will not allow a group that is disparaging of another group to have a station here.”

    So if a Muslim went to the prayer station and wanted to say an Islamic prayer and was prevented from doing so…..would he then be in a position of being “disparaged” ….given that the Christians in the booth would most likely not permit it?

    The “reason station” would not have to be a location that would mock or otherwise belittle religion…..it would simply be a place where people may come to discuss why they believe what they do and review it with rational thinking people and see how their faith stands up in the light of logical thought.

  3. 1859 says:

    The only reason this clown has barred the rationalists is because he knows in his heart of hearts they have a fucking good case – it’s a decision based on cowardice.

  4. Matt Westwood says:

    And the silly man has Godwon himself before he’s even started.

  5. Trevor Blake says:

    “I cannot accept or will not allow a group that is disparaging of another group to have a station here.”
    [Jesus said:] Ye [the Jews] are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. – John 8:44

    f a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. – Leviticus 20:13

    Shall I go on?

  6. The Woggler says:

    The only way these religionnuts can beat non-believers is by silly insults and deliberate misrepresentation. They simply kick reasoned argument out of the window.

  7. Norman Paterson says:

    I keep trying not to disparage, but sometimes it’s really hard.

  8. Paul Cook says:

    I think this is just racist. And I think I am deeply hurt.
    Racism against atheism is very real.
    [To my fellow regulars- you know what I mean! – No apologies to all other religions – especially islam, that considers itself/ themselves a ‘race’ and therefore subject to racsim legislation].

    On hitler – a committed catholic the evidence is very real and available. Just one sample of his obsession with catholism – the german occupation of Croatia/Yugoslavia/Serbia during WW2 saw an increase in hundreds of thousands of ‘converted’ Orthodox serbs to catholicism, forced on them by the catholic Croats. That was better than being annihilated in the worst atrocities of the Second World War. They killed more than many of the other death camps and even shocked the Germans as to methods and numbers. (e.g.Jasenovac).
    Their catholic extermination of Serbs jews and just about anyone else that wasn’t a catholic, were truly astonishing – and many catholic priests and monks were involved and carried out some incredible atrocities – all in the name of religion.

    Whenever did an atheist last commit such atrocities ?(and Stalin never was carrying out what he did as an atheist -he did what he did as he was an utterly insane madman).

  9. Broga says:

    Fouts is, to put it at its kindest, an ignorant bigot. I have read a lot about the Nazis and Hitler – a vainglorious, sadist and hypochondriac. Also Heydrich , Himmler and others,

    Fouts, assuming he can read, should try Hitler’s Pope by John Cornwell. I’m currently reading the excellent “Auschwitz” by Laurence Rees although the pitiless cruelty makes it a tough read.

    To compare atheists to the Nazis must be the ultimate insult.

  10. Stephen Mynett says:

    This is worth reading as well: http://www.amazon.co.uk/God-Fascists-Vatican-Alliance-Mussolini-ebook/dp/B00CCOO6WU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406633395&sr=8-1&keywords=karlheinz+deschner

    Barry has featured Deschner on this site before and I agree that it is a shame not all of Deschner’s works have been published in English.

  11. AgentCormac says:

    Gratifying to see that the ‘Prayer Station’ is hardly inundated with passers-by desperate to be ‘saved’. What beats me is why these morons can’t just keep their dumb beliefs to themselves – that way we’d have none of this bother. (I know, I know – it’s their mission/duty/whatever in life to ‘save’ as many souls as possible.)

  12. Lurker111 says:

    Jeez. To have an anti-prayer station, all you’d need is one poster that says the following:

    If your prayer is in accordance with God’s Plan, then what you’re praying for is going to happen anyway.

    If your prayer is in conflict with God’s Plan, then what you’re praying for isn’t going to happen.

    So there’s no point in praying.

  13. Barry Duke says:

    Here’s the Deschner link, Stephen.

  14. Rob Andrews says:

    Theists are alway talking about the crimes of Hitler and Stalin as evidence of crimes committed by atheists. Yes that’s true. I tell them.

    But the crimes were committed BY atheists, not for atheism. Witch burnings and heracy trials and holy wars, were done IN THE NAME OF CHRIST.

    And stalin, et al were NOT SECULAR HUMANISTS. Show me one atrocity commited by secular humanists.

    International Humanist & Ethical Union.
    http://www.IHEU.org

  15. remigius says:

    “Theists are alway talking about the crimes of Hitler and Stalin as evidence of crimes committed by atheists. Yes that’s true. I tell them.
    But the crimes were committed BY atheists…”

    Nope. That’s not true. Have you actually read any of this article. Hitler was NOT an atheist. The Nazi’s were NOT atheists.

  16. Lucy1 says:

    They had ‘god is with us’ on their belt buckles, I think, though obviously in german.

  17. Broga says:

    Stalin was heavily influenced by Roman Catholicism in his youth. He said later that he based some of his techniques on the Jesuits.

  18. Adam Tjaavk says:

    Hitler’s Christianity

    http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

    _____

  19. Norman Paterson says:

    Where’s the FSM?

  20. Robster says:

    That Hitler was an atheist has been long proven incorrect. Those on the other team arguing for god/jesus et al really need a new argument to explain their need for irrational nonsense. Get to work christians etc. and actually do something for a change.

  21. Norman Paterson says:

    Robster – “actually do something” – spot on. All the argument is just so much hot air. The dogs bark but the caravan moves on. We explore Mars, we eradicate diseases, we discover amazing things about the universe. The religious spend their time talking, as if that would change any damn thing.

    There is a quote from somebody about people talking themselves to death, being buried by their own nonsense. I remember the gist, but not the actual words. Any pointers would be welcome!

  22. Matt Westwood says:

    “actually do something for a change.”

    But we *have* been doing something — we’ve been *praying really hard*.

  23. Vanity Unfair says:

    “The city has certain values that I don’t believe are in general agreement with having an atheist station, nor in general agreement with having a Nazi station or Ku Klux Klan station. I cannot accept or will not allow a group that is disparaging of another group to have a station here.”
    He doesn’t say that the NSDAP was an atheist organisation, and the KKK always pretended to be a religious organisation, after all they did burn churches. What more enidence do you need of religious credentials? His implication is that these two organisations and one philosophy have a common approach to spreading their message. And I find that very insulting.