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Council removes offensive posters

Council removes offensive posters

Posters instructing women on which side of the road to walk appeared in the London borough of Hackney.

According to this report, the signs were spotted along Stamford Hill in Hackney this week.

The Shomrim group, whose Jewish volunteers support policing in the area, said they were put up by an orthodox Jewish group during the Torah Procession earlier this week, in order to prevent men and women from the religious sect who are not married or related “from touching”.

Chaim Hochhauser, from the Stamford Hill Shomrim group, said it had contacted the organisers to inform them the posters “lacked explanation”.

He said the posters were aimed at people from the the Orthodox Jewish community who were attending the street event.

Hochhauser said:

Shomrim have since contacted the event organisers, and explained that these posters lacked explanation in the English text, and therefore could have offended people who don’t understand the Hebrew wording and the logo.

Stamford Hill is home to over 20,000 Haredi Jews, the third largest group.

Rosemary Sales, a councillor for Stamford Hill West, described the posters as “unacceptable” and said they had been taken down.

Several residents in my ward in Stamford Hill have drawn these posters to my attention. It is of course quite unacceptable to try to restrict women’s movements in a public place and council officers removed these posters as soon as it was reported to them.

Hackney Police Superintendent Andy Walker said he had spoken to the organisers about the “potential misinterpretation” of the signs.

Hat tip: Frits and BarrieJohn

21 responses to “Council removes offensive posters”

  1. barriejohn says:

    So, if we heathen have it explained to us precisely WHY women are not to be touched, that’s OK is it?

  2. Daz says:

    “in order to prevent men and women from the religious sect who are not married or related “from touching”.”

    Hmm. How unsurprised am I that, in order to achieve this, it’s the women who are being instructed on where to walk?

  3. Adam Tjaavk says:

    “…Hebrew wording…”!

    Yiddish wording in Hebrew lettering.

    klutzes! (Yiddish in Roman)

    _____

  4. Matt Westwood says:

    As an instructional poster it wouldn’t work anyway. A woman on the other side of the road would not see the poster and blithely continue to lollop along, caroming into all sorts of orthodox gentlemen and rendering them unclean to a dismaying degree. So: big fail there.

  5. barriejohn says:

    Daz: Of course it would be the woman’s fault should contact be made.

    “For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.” (Blame it all on Eve; I Tim. 2:13&14 – almost certainly written by a Jew, in case anyone quibbles!)

  6. Broga says:

    The subjugation of women must be so destructive to any heterosexual relationship. What kind of man wants his wife/partner to be subordinate to him. Her role presumably being to act as a cook, cleaner and sexual object.

  7. L.Long says:

    Broga….’what kind of a man’ NO kind of a MAN.
    Insecure women hating males with tiny dingges and teen age mentalities cuz they have never became A MAN!

  8. Toto says:

    I am having to pinch myself frequently and with some force these days to convince myself that I am not actually dreaming about the antics of the pious. Everyday I am confronted with news of the sheer nastiness violence and intolerance of those who know the minds of their gods. Well I say “Pox on them all”. Just think how humanity could prosper and thrive, think of what could be achieved if the religious fundamentalist fascist parasites were not absolutely bent on smashing everything up. That we let the godly get away with such breathtaking criminality is a shame on all decent people.

  9. Newspaniard says:

    Do they really tolerate this kind of poster nonsense in Israel?

  10. barriejohn says:

    Regarding the situation in Israel, the following article by Sami Michael seems to be a balanced account :

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4316783,00.html

    Woman is not created from the rib of man, but is herself a complete and unique being.

    A woman’s body, her soul and her feelings are not the property of man.

    Woman is not merely a helper, but an independent being and a full partner (and sometimes is also the main breadwinner in a family).

    A society that trashes women, that harms their status, and excludes them from the public sphere is a backwards society, a sick society that is dark and failing and will never truly flourish – both materially and spiritually.

    The complete antithesis of what the Bible says!

  11. barriejohn says:

    And do you remember how they treat innocent young girls on their way to school?

    http://freethinker.co.uk/2012/01/08/eight-year-old-girl-sparks-a-backlash-against-ultra-orthodox-jews-in-israel/

    Members of an extremist Haredi group that have settled there over the past several years have been pushing for the creation of gender-segregated bus lines, designating parts of the city where women and men were directed to separate on public streets, and harassing the girls of Orot Banot on the ground that they did not dress modestly enough.

    Last week, the extremists caused outrage when they dressed in Nazi concentration camp gear to make the point that opposition to their gender separation ideology was tantamount to persecution.

    In the aftermath of the Channel 2 story and the reaction, the ultra-Orthodox mayor of Beit Shemesh ordered workers to take down street signs that directed women to cross the street and “not linger” in front of a synagogue. As they did so, Haredim threw rocks and called the municipal workers ‘Nazis.’

  12. Matt Westwood says:

    It’s not religion that’s the problem here as such, it’s tribalism. It’s this little worm that eats into a person’s brain that says: the group of people I identify with is different from everybody else. We’re special. We’re better. And because we’re better, we have the right to tell the other people what to do. And of course we have the right to tell our*own* people what to do, because if they don’t do it they’re not of us. And so on.

    Every single kind of identification with a particular subset of the human race in opposition to the complement of that subset is an instance of that mindset: whether it be partisanship to a particular football club, membership of a political party, citizenship of a particular nation (a particularly insidious one here, because most people take for granted their nationality as a badge of identity), which leads onto discrimination by the language one speaks, the colour of one’s skin, the food one eats, the hand with which one wipes one’s arse, and of course one’s religion.

  13. John C says:

    New game for the ladies, hareditag!

  14. AgentCormac says:

    I wonder what people would think and the reaction would be if the posters that had been put up read ‘Jews should please walk along this side of the road only’.

  15. A Confused Atheist says:

    A group of Jews put up these signs and not a single story on anywhere other than The Freethinker is recorded. If a group of Christians were to do this, ditto. If a group of Muslims were to do this, then there would be a huge swarm of media attention and outrage; the Daily Mail would have about two or three pages covering the case; the Far-Right politicians in the UK would have a field day; and once again, Muslims would be scapegoated.

  16. Angela_K says:

    @A confused Atheist. This report was carried by the Independent yesterday [no comments allowed and link in the above article] but I didn’t see the story anywhere else either. Religious fanatics of all stripes seem to be protected by a Government and media terrified of being accused racist.

  17. Paul Cook says:

    I saw a BBC London news report on it. They interviewed the lady councillor

  18. Paul Cook says:

    How would there be strict jew women outside anyway? Wouldn’t they all be inside locked away out of sight?

  19. Maggie says:

    “One law for all” is a concept we are moving farther and farther away from, and there is only one cause:religion.

  20. Frank says:

    “Potential misinterpretation”, ahaha, thanks for the laugh.