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Begone and belt up, Cardinal Burke!

Begone and belt up, Cardinal Burke!

Just days after mouthing idiotic remarks about gays, Cardinal Raymond Burke, Prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura, has been demoted.

Burke is moving from the Church’s chief guardian of canon law to a minor post as patron to the Sovereign Military Order of Malta.

Clearly peeved over the the direction a worldwide meeting of Church leaders is taking, Burke said yesterday that – with the apparent blessing of Pope Francis – the RCC is being “weakened”.

An interim report of the discussions released on Monday, called the Relatio, produced a widespread backlash among conservative bishops who said it suggested a radical change to the Church’s teaching on questions like divorce and homosexuality, and Burke has been among the most publicly critical of the bishops picked by Pope Francis to lead the discussion.

Relatio?, the Cardinal angrily ejaculated, “more like bloody fellatio!”

Popegays

Just kidding …

What he did say is that if Pope Francis had selected certain cardinals to steer the meeting to advance his personal views on matters like divorce and the treatment of LGBT people he would not be observing his mandate as the leader of the Catholic Church.

Burke said that Francis had “done a lot of harm” by not stating “openly what his position is.” He added that the Pope had given the impression that he endorses some of the most controversial parts of the Relatio, especially on questions of divorce.

The Pope, more than anyone else as the pastor of the universal church, is bound to serve the truth. The Pope is not free to change the Church’s teachings with regard to the immorality of homosexual acts or the insolubility of marriage or any other doctrine of the faith.

Putting a brave face on his demotion, Burke said:

I very much have enjoyed and have been happy to give this service, so it is a disappointment to leave it. On the other hand, in the Church as priests, we always have to be ready to accept whatever assignment we’re given. And so I trust, by accepting this assignment, that God will bless me, and that’s what’s in the end most important.

Hat tip: Paul Cook

17 responses to “Begone and belt up, Cardinal Burke!”

  1. AgentCormac says:

    Burke must be laughing his abstinent little cock off now though as Frankie has suffered a blow to proposals for wider acceptance of gay people.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29677779

  2. Broga says:

    Frankie’s problem is in trying to square the circle. The Church’s teaching and “truth” has held to no divorce, no abortion, no acceptance of gay people to join in the rites of the Church, no gay marriage, celibate priests and nuns and no contraception. They have clung to this, giving way here and there, for centuries. If they decide to change their teaching on the “truth” does that mean the earlier truth was not the truth.

    On the other hand, they know that their flock are ignoring the ” truth” being preached. Off to mass on Sunday morning and on with a condom in bed in the evening. The preaching becomes pointless and the apparent following of it a sham. Do they just continue with the ritual and ignore the reality?

    Or do they shuffle, equivocate, use their usual casuistry and pretend. Faced with an epidemic of child sexual abuse, a lack of candidates for the priesthood falling attendances at church the policy is not working.

    Or do the throw out the practices from the past, have married priests and attempt to modernise. In which case many who have suffered deprivation, emotional and sexual, by following the teaching will ask, “Why did I bother? What was it all for.”

    Frankie is between a rock and a hard place.

  3. AgentCormac says:

    Broga

    You are absolutely right. Frankie and his cohorts can’t have it both ways – either what they preach is the infallible word of god or it is man-made bollocks. Surely it isn’t negotiable. And by changing their position (or at least trying to, given Frankie’s failure as linked to above), they undermine the very rock upon which they supposedly stand. The transparency of their deceit is there for all to see – yet the likes of Bob Hutton claim that we are the ones who have been ‘blinded’ (by the devil, apparently. Yawn.).

    Sadly, the world is packed to the gunnels with people who cannot grasp reality because they have had their capacity to think erased by an institution which is perhaps only matched these days in terms of demanding blind obedience by the horrific regime of Kim Jong-un, the supreme leader of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. And what a revolting excuse for a human being that twat is.

  4. Anne says:

    Popes are as reluctant to overthrow the precedents/rules set by former popes as the Supreme Court of the USA is reluctant to overthrow precedents set by former courts.

    The RCC needs a leader who will have courage. All it needs is ONE Pope who will speak ex cathedra and toss out all the bullshit rulings by his predecessor.

    He will of course then immediately be assassinated, as these right-wing types have way too much invested in having petty power over others to allow anyone to challenge their petty preserves.

  5. Gindy51 says:

    Anne, the current SCOTUS is more than happy to toss out anything it’s GOP monied interests don’t like be it precedent or not. Just look at their tossing out of the Voter Rights act and the subsequent draconian voter laws passing left and right in red states (TX being the worst.)

  6. Broga says:

    Gindy51: Help! I have not long since discovered that POTUS means President of the United States. But now we have SCOTUS. Who he? This site is a continuing means of improving my education.

  7. barriejohn says:

    Broga: Supreme Court of the United States.

    Anne: If the pope threw out all the BS rulings of his predecessors they’d have nothing left!

  8. barriejohn says:

    AgentCormac: Putting cynicism to one side, I think we may have a humanistic pope here after all, otherwise how do we explain his warning about “a temptation to hostile inflexibility, that is, wanting to close oneself within the written word, (the letter) and not allowing oneself to be surprised by God, by the God of surprises, (the spirit); within the law, within the certitude of what we know and not of what we still need to learn and to achieve. From the time of Christ, it is the temptation of the zealous, of the scrupulous, of the solicitous and of the so-called – today – ‘traditionalists’ and also of the intellectuals”?

    We were told on the news tonight that doctrine doesn’t change but develops and becomes more clearly understood over time. Hahaha – ever heard that before? There’s another synod in a year’s time. The dinosaurs will go back to their dioceses, think about things, listen to what people are saying, and then vote again. Frankie is obviouly betting on change, and he may well get it.

    http://www.news.va/en/news/pope-francis-speech-at-the-conclusion-of-the-synod

  9. Anne says:

    “Anne: If the pope threw out all the BS rulings of his predecessors they’d have nothing left!”

    Precisely, Which is what the RCC had (allegedly) in the first century CE. Wasn’t until somebody or other — Constantine, maybe? — realized what political ramifications could come out of owning his own church? Even sent his mother to the Middle East to somehow mystically divine the locations of all sorts of relics.

    I would have preferred the first century RCC, when basically you were still a Jew, only a more liberal kind of Jew.

  10. Robster says:

    That Frank, the pope, isn’t he supposed to be god/mary/jesus’s right hand man, the leader and direct link between all the heavenly nonsense and us dirty sinners? Surely with that kind of influence, that god/mary/jesus could indicate to the ol’ Frank what its desires are and whatever the gaggle of bishops has to say is really as irrelevant as the church itself? If that’s not the case, why bother with a pope?

  11. Trevor Blake says:

    I’m here to tell you, if the Roman Catholic Church ever changes a basic tenet such as purgatory or indulgences then they’re done for. Everyone will see through them and the faith will not endure.

    Er… that is… oh never mind.

  12. Paul Cook says:

    @ Anne

    that is interesting you mention assassination, as that was exactly what David Yallop wrote about ‘In God’s name’, the assassination of pope John paul 1.
    Yallop refers to evidence that at that time John paul 1 was going to reorder the vatican, get rid of all the conservatives, the thieves and mafia in the bank, and replace them all with men who would make change, who were decent more honest and able to help the poor, inform and society generally. He also was going to relax the orthodoxy on sex, marriage, marriage of priests, and contraception.

    He didn’t live long after being made pope, despite being a very healthy man for his age. No post mortem was carried out. His body embalmed. Oddly the embalmers were asked to attend the vatican before news of his death was made, or his body found.

  13. Broga says:

    @barryjohn: Thanks. Frankie does indeed seem to want a more flexible, accepting Church. He has a hell of a job on his hands as the hard liners have a great life for themselves, including their sex partners ferried into the Vatican.

    @Paul Cook: I think Frankie has only one lung. Opportunities there?

  14. Paul Cook says:

    @Broga
    If he has only one lung why hasn’t he asked god for a new one? Or more importantly as he is gods spokesman on earth why hasn’t god put one back?
    The babble does say a believer doesn’t need medicine and prayer heals and recovers all. One only has to ask.

  15. HRH says:

    Still kween of the “cappa magna,” Ray doesn’t much care about his demotion. After all, he’s still the Unofficial Pope of the Republican Catholic Church. The best friend the 1%ers have ever had. They won’t desert him.

  16. Har Davids says:

    All religion is built on sand. Once you start taking some of it away, the whole structure it’s supporting is bound to crumble and crash. The good thing about the RCC is, that there’s hardly any help needed, most of the destruction is done by the clergy, both in action and words.

    Makes me wonder if the present pope is a closet Atheist.