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Comedian is accused of ‘hate speech’

Comedian is accused of ‘hate speech’

Germany’s Dieter Nuhr, above, is being investigated by the authorities for ‘insulting a faith community’ – Islam.

The investigation against Nuhr was prompted by a complaint by German Turk Erhat Toka, who accused Nuhr of “spreading hate speech” in  his performances.

According to this (Google translated) report, Nuhr – in tackling the issue of freedom of expression – said that free speech has never been under greater threat in Germany since the Third Reich.

It’s the first time since 1945 that you worry that you will be killed for saying the wrong thing.

Nuhr has repeatedly triggered protests by Muslims with his performances. For years, he has been strong critic of Islam – and not just on stage.

In 2011, writing in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, he said that tolerance was “alien” to Islam, a religion he described as “regressive”.

There is tolerance in Islam only where it has no power.

He said the same climate of fear was gripping the rest of the West.

HateToka, above, is quoted as saying:

If someone makes fun of Islam, I do not mind.

But he insisted that the contents of Nuhr’s shows were “stupid, silly propaganda” against a minority under the guise of satire.

Reinhold Mokrosch, spokesman for the Round Table and emeritus professor of Protestant theology, also criticised Noor, saying he is promoting “Islamophobia” in many parts of society.

Migration researcher Klaus J Bade accused Nuhr of lacking an understanding of the religion, saying he is confusing Islam with the Islamic State.

But in a Die Welt op-ed (Google translated) Henryk M Broder suggested that if any offence be taken, it should be against the “barbarism” of a religion that allows, for example, the recent hanging of a victim of rape in Iran.

This Stern report (Google translated again as the case seems to have been totally ignored by English language media) suggests that a prosecution against Nuhr is unlikely to proceed.

19 responses to “Comedian is accused of ‘hate speech’”

  1. Broga says:

    The reaction to Dieter Nuhr confirms his opinions. If he thinks this, and I agree with him, why should he not say so. He certainly hit the target when he said Islam is tolerant only where it has no power. We can see countries where it has power and the barbarism of its activities.

    As in the Third Reich if you exercise free speech where Islam holds power you may end up dangling from the end of a rope or worse. Dieter Nuhr should be encouraged and supported.

  2. Trevor Blake says:

    I don’t like that German group that refers to Jews as animals (2:65-66), calls Jews greedy (2:96), and says all Jews should be killed (2:191-2). You know, Islam. Who did you think I was talking about? Then again I don’t like Islam anywhere.

  3. barriejohn says:

    Trevor Blake: William Norman Ewer got into terrible trouble over his little ditty “How odd of God/ To choose the Jews”, and I believe he had to apologise for it. The strange thing is that this is precisely what the Old Testament says, where YHWH speaks in the most disparaging way about “His ancient people”!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Norman_Ewer

    Not odd of God. / Goyim annoy ‘im.

  4. Vanity Unfair says:

    A German Muslim with no sense of humour?
    Why am I not surprised?
    (Double stereotype: would anybody like to try for a triple?)
    Translating from German is tricky enough without the problems of conveying comedy and idiom. Even if we had a good translation of his routine it might still be difficult to come to a balanced conclusion.

  5. Donar says:

    @Broga: Dieter Nuhr is encouraged and supportet by his fans and even increased his fan base because of this ridiculous lawsuit. He doesn’t get much encouragement and support by his colleagues though, because they are rather scared to offend islam.

    He said in an interview yesterday that we have to be friendly to women, foreigners and religions (by law), which doesn’t only violate the right of free speech but is also a contradiction in itself, because we can’t be islam friendly and at the same time women friendly.
    Furthermore he said that the only way to follow that law is to shut up about these topics, which most comedians do (also out of fear of islam).

    He didn’t even insult muslims, allah or muhammad. He only talked about the ideology of islam and quoted the quran (Stuff like “All infidels have to be killed”). He also talked about political issues in islamic countries, which should be allowed.

    This lawsuit is pretty messed up and stupid but I see it as a good thing. Nothing will happen to him because it’s completely unjustified but maybe it will convince our stupid government to maybe rethink some parts of the law. In 2006 our government was against the repealing of the blasphemy law, so they were way behind their time and they still are. The blasphemy law is still not repealed but it violates the “International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights” from the UN from 2011, so I guess it will be hard for the islamists to plead on the blasphemy law – they can only plead on the “Incitement to hatred” law, which wouldn’t really justify this lawsuit (in my opinion).

  6. Paul Cook says:

    Since when did the Germans have comedians?

  7. Barry Duke says:

    Paul, of course Germans have comedians. Here’s one who explains German humour:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/german/comedy/jokes.shtml

  8. barriejohn says:

    Henning Wehn is hilarious; I love his dry humour on QI.

    http://youtu.be/LqEB_598cU8

    Sandi Toksvig is funny as well!

  9. Broga says:

    @Angels_K: Suppose he had said, “I am not an atheist.” Or, even more aggravating to the crazies, “I am an atheist.”

  10. Matt Westwood says:

    A German and a Frenchman were in an English language class. They were asked to construct a short piece of English which included the words green, pink and yellow.

    The German said, “I woke up this morning and rejoiced that the grass was green, and the sun was shining bright yellow, and I made myself a pink gin.”

    The Frenchman said “The telephone went green green, so I pink it up and say: yellow?”

    Humour is the same throughout the world — every nation has a neighbour where everyone is stupid.

  11. barriejohn says:

    Matt: When I first went to Lancashire I heard the saying, “Cheshire born and Cheshire bred; strong in th’arm and thick in th’ead” and laughed like a drain. Later, I heard “Lancashire born and Lancashire bred…”, “Yorkshire born and Yorkshire bred…” and realized that every county oop north used it against their neighbours!

  12. Toto says:

    How to be a devout Muslim….wail scream whinge whine and shriek about anyone who speaks the truth about islam.

  13. Dan Brown says:

    Where are the Muslim comics to fight back?!?
    To fight fire with fire or, in this case, to fight derision with derision.
    Oh, that’s right, there’s no one to sympathize with misogyny and genocide that emanate from believing in made up bullshit.
    Funny how that works, isn’t it?

  14. Paul Cook says:

    What is interesting is that there are hardly any Turks in Turkey that look like that wank*r. Beards like that are frowned upon.
    What is it about going and living in countries in the EU that makes these people behave like they’re in the Stone Age.

    Answer: FREEDOM.

  15. jay says:

    This is because ‘racism’ has been broadened to mean, not just the harming or abusing people because of their race, but to include thought-crime as well, with people trying to outdo each other in ideological purity (not unlike Islam).

  16. Newspaniard says:

    The case against the man who said that he was not a muslim, has reminded me of another case where a chap noticed that a bin-bag wearer seemed to get special privileges going through airport security. Again, the complainant against his remarks was an islamist. I am astounded that islamists are allowed to be employed as security staff at any airport, particularly when they decide who does or does not board an aircraft. Are these people “vetted” or, because of their “faith”, do they get passed on the nod?

  17. Philip Smeeton says:

    This is not a war between Christianity and Islam. Though it is that too. This is a war between free secular democracy and the totalitarian ideology of Islam.
    We have to define and defend our democratic principles.
    Such as free speech.

  18. Matt Westwood says:

    Because it is usually crucial to my career that I have uneventful travel, I make a point of being taciturn and impassive whenever passing through anything that smacks of “control” at airports. Seriously, joking about *anything* is not conducive towards a journey in which you are left uninterfered with.