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New movie ‘debunks’ Xmas’s Pagan origins

New movie ‘debunks’ Xmas’s Pagan origins

Fundamentalist Christian actor Kirk Cameron, who became an international laughing stock when he co-starred in creationist Ray Comfort’s idiotic ‘intelligent design’ banana video, has made a movie to pour scorn on those wanting to ‘snuff out’ the ‘holy root’ of Christmas.

In Saving Christmas, the evangelic oaf “tackles some of the most controversial and disputed issues surrounding the celebration of Jesus’ birthday” and predicts that atheists “won’t be too elated with its storyline”. As things are shaping up for this piece of revisionist crap, which opens in US cinemas on Friday, not only atheists.

Cameron, who – quelle surprisehates homosexuals, said:

I assume [the atheists] are going to get frustrated to see some of their best arguments deflated by this movie, because we take on some of the most commonly parroted myths about the origins of Christmas.

Unlike some of his more recent projects, Saving Christmas isn’t a documentary. Apparently it’s a comedy that harnesses “educational elements” to rubbish claims that:

• Christians hijacked the winter solstice celebrations (they did).

• Jesus was not born on December 25 (he wasn’t).

• Christmas trees are Pagan (they are).

Cameron, who is also one of the film’s stars said he decided to make Saving Christmas to celebrate the spirit of the holiday season, while also pushing back against those who wish to “snuff out its holy root”.

Christmas is probably my favorite time of year. It seems to be the time of year when even cranky, grumpy people seem to be touched by the spirit of generosity and kindness and brotherly love and I know that that ultimately stems from the true reason for the season, which is Christ.

Cameron gibbered on:

It’s obvious that there is a deliberate attempt to snuff out the holy root that has produced all this wonderful Christmas-time fruit. I think it’s about time someone spoke out and made a movie about this.

Cameron

He claims that atheist activists’ attempts to diminish the true nature of the holiday by taking aim at nativities and other symbols of faith is tantamount to political correctness run amok.

It’s offensive to 90 percent of people in our country who want to see nativity scenes and who know the birth of the Christ child is the fundamental root of Christianity, which is the ideology that built this country.

I’ll leave the last word to Robert Ingersoll, who said this in his 1891 “A Christmas Sermon“:

The good part of Christmas is not always Christian – it is generally Pagan; that is to say, human, natural.

Christianity did not come with tidings of great joy, but with a message of eternal grief. It came with the threat of everlasting torture on its lips. It meant war on earth and perdition hereafter.

It taught some good things – the beauty of love and kindness in man. But as a torch-bearer, as a bringer of joy, it has been a failure. It has given infinite consequences to the acts of finite beings, crushing the soul with a responsibility too great for mortals to bear. It has filled the future with fear and flame, and made God the keeper of an eternal penitentiary, destined to be the home of nearly all the sons of men. Not satisfied with that, it has deprived God of the pardoning power.

And yet it may have done some good by borrowing from the Pagan world the old festival called Christmas.

Long before Christ was born the Sun-God triumphed over the powers of Darkness. About the time that we call Christmas the days begin perceptibly to lengthen. Our barbarian ancestors were worshippers of the sun, and they celebrated his victory over the hosts of night. Such a festival was natural and beautiful. The most natural of all religions is the worship of the sun. Christianity adopted this festival. It borrowed from the Pagans the best it has.

… Christmas is a good day to forgive and forget – a good day to throw away prejudices and hatreds – a good day to fill your heart and your house, and the hearts and houses of others, with sunshine.

Editor’s note: Seven years ago the National Secular Society published Did Christians Steal Christmas? by Freethinker contributor Dr Robert Stovold.

19 responses to “New movie ‘debunks’ Xmas’s Pagan origins”

  1. cnocspeireag says:

    Your headline should read ‘fails to debunk’, because it seems it was a failure. People regularly misuse ‘refute’ in similar way.

  2. Sally in MI says:

    Gee, I bet this movie wins Kirk a slot on DWTS. Then when he is voted off, he can whine that it was all the ‘haters’ and ‘atheists’ who teamed up to vote against him. I do wish America would return to sanity and stop buying into the lies from the far RW who are so threatened by the truth. We are not, and never were, a “Christian country.” And if that’s what they want, I suggest they start following Christ…end wars, stop taking away the safety nets for the poor and elderly, start loving your neighbors, all of them,. and stop amassing all the wealth in this country for themselves. Until then, Kirk, you are a greedy, self-promoting example of the worst of religion. I know this movie will get promoted in the rah-rah churches, but otherwise, the sane among us know that the only “war on Christmas” is the one O’Reilly milks for ratings every December. You can’t avoid Christmas in the US if you want to…and yes, Kirk, fictional Nativity scenes do not belong on pubic land. That is not a war; that is the law of the land ever since the Founding Fathers, deists and humanists that they were, decided that a church should not run this nation. I know, let’s let Jews and Muslims control the US Government. How abut it Kirk? A menorah on the grounds of the Supreme Court?

  3. barriejohn says:

    How dare you accuse Christians of hijacking pagan customs in their celebration of the birth of Ickle Baby Jesus!

    http://www.gypsyjoy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Santa-and-Baby-Jesus1.jpg

  4. Stuart H. says:

    Presumably this movie got made because somebody, somewhere worked out what the market for it was (showings in US super-churches, DVDs for god-bothering relatives, etc. presumably).
    Funniest thing is it’s been done already, and in the UK too. What this new Christian cinema really reminds me of is all those video rip-offs of Rambo where crack Muslim commandos hunted down Salman Rushdie- I used to see them in Asian-owned video rentals in Yorkshire back in the early 1990’s. I bet Kirk’s acting is no better than the OTT antics in those either!

  5. Gordon Bennet says:

    ” the ideology that built this country.”
    By that I suppose he means slavery and genocide.

  6. Paul Cook says:

    Gordon
    Very true.
    I recall reading a few years ago a ‘historian’ say that US History was very young, having started from the pilgrims etc.
    It is exactly the same as Australia whose history only began from 1770.

  7. dennis says:

    I looked for this movie under “truth and the American way” but did not find it? o’ stupid me its under comedy and I need a good laugh today

  8. dennis says:

    yes, it would be funny if they truly did not really believe, and I could chock this up to marketing savvy.

  9. AgentCormac says:

    The poster says ‘Limited Engagement’, surely that should have been Limited Intelligence, Limited Imagination, Limited Appeal, Limited Credibility, Limited Honesty and Limited Veracity.

  10. Paul Cook says:

    OT

    But the lander Philae getting onto the comet 67/P is truly a brilliant achievement. It shows how far ahead Europe is with the ESA which has a brilliant set of scientists. They are incredible.

    European scientists, in our Universe, ‘driving’ a lander onto a comet 6.4 billion miles away, at 40,000 miles an hour.
    Islamist extremists, in Syria, Iraq, pakistan, Afghanistan the Middle east, driving a car bomb into a police checkpoint a few miles down the road.

  11. L.Long says:

    Exactly Paul!!! SCIENCE made the awesome achievement of Philae.
    I challenge any religious nutjob to show any comparable achievement by any religion. Go ahead Pray hard…let’s see something happen!!!

    On this subject Kirk is an idiot who knows nothing of Xtian, xmas, or pagan history. Even something as documented as xmas the xtians have to always think it is about them and get everything wrong!!!

  12. AgentCormac says:

    ‘Go ahead Pray hard…let’s see something happen!!!’

    Come, come, L. Long, surely you must have seen all those amputees who have had their missing limbs re-instated. And all those people in wheelchairs who have suddenly been able to walk again. Not to mention all those natural disasters that have been averted, famine and strife that has been ended overnight and generally everything bad in the world that has been miraculously put right by the power of prayer. Where have you been, on a comet or something?

  13. Broga says:

    Get ready, folks, here is something we can all look forward to. Cameron, a specialist in waffle, in referring to atheists says,

    “I assume they’re going to get frustrated to see some of their best arguments deflated by this movie, because we take on some of the most commonly parroted myths about the origins of Christmas,” Cameron exclusively told TheBlaze Tuesday.”

    I look forward to discovering the substance of his “deflation.” I will also be interested in what he regards as “commonly parroted myths.” Numerous attempts have been made on this site by people of Cameron’s ilk to deflate atheists. Exposing their attempts has been so easy that it becomes routine and boring. All the Christians soon leave.

    Cameron is after the gullible Christian audience in the USA and the quick buck that they bring. The film, you may be sure, will be an embarrassment. I hope an atheist gets a chance to review it if they can stomach the sickly gush that is so typical of these efforts.

  14. Clive BOnd says:

    i cant wait until a movie comes out debunking that pedophile war lord mohomad.

  15. Laura Roberts says:

    Is that really the movie poster? Seriously? C’mon, that HAS to be a spoof!

    Poe’s Law seems to be in full force on this one.

  16. Paul Cook says:

    I looked at IMBD.

    His best quote is this one:
    (On Creationism): “To say that the banana happened by accident is even more unintelligent than to say that no one designed the Coca Cola can.”

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0131647/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm

    Let us hope he doesn’t get into politics like Swartzeneggar or Ron Reagan.

  17. Brian Jordan says:

    @Clive BOnd
    “i cant wait until a movie comes out debunking that pedophile war lord mohomad.”
    One was going to, but it never got beyond the trailer, such was the fuss. Even bow they’re rewriting copyright law to force YouTube to delete it for good: “Innocence of Muslims” Meanwhile they just show you an apology and a blank screen.
    See http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Innocence_of_Muslims.

  18. barriejohn says:

    Paul Cook: Not one single, solitary scientist claims that “the banana happened by accident”- though I suppose that according to quantum physics it might be possible!

    They constantly set up these false arguments so that they can “demolish” them and make themselves appear smart. Sadly, impressionable youngsters are often taken in this way.

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