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Montreal opposes new Islamic centre

Montreal opposes new Islamic centre

Imam Hamza Chaoui, above, does not believe in democracy. He is also homophobic. But he imagines he’s the right guy to set up a community centre in Montreal’s Hochelaga-Maisonneuve borough next month.

But, according to this report, Chaoui – originally from Morocco – is facing hostility from politicians, and “needs to think twice” before proceeding with his plan.

Montreal Mayor Denis Coderre, said:

I am against all forms of radicalism.

Coderre, who met with spiritual leaders in hopes of fostering dialogue in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris, said he will consult with borough Mayor Réal Ménard about the plan.

He said said that he rejects Chaoui’s rigid views on democracy and homosexuality, and his suggestion that democracy and Islam are antithetical.

That is not the message of the Qur’an.

Chaoui studied electrical engineering at Université Laval, where he became the imam to Muslim students there.

In postings on his Facebook page, Chaoui argues that Islam and democracy are “parallel lines that never intersect” because democracy allows for the election of:

An infidel or a homosexual or an atheist who denies the existence of Allah.

In other teachings, he has denounced the World Cup of soccer, where stadiums were rife with the temptations of music, dancing and alcohol.

Yet he disagreed with Saudi Arabia’s refusal to let women drive, saying it was not nearly as risky as the alternative – the possibility of women coming into physical contact with men while travelling by taxi or public transport.

Speaking to reporters in Quebec City, Kathleen Weil, Quebec’s Minister of Immigration, Diversity and Inclusion, said Chaoui’s views are “dangerous” and “unacceptable” in a democratic society like Quebec, where the rule of law applies and men and women are treated as equals.

The city of Montreal, I am sure, shares our values, which are Quebec values. Clearly, my desire is that we don’t have this [community centre] where someone can spread these concepts. It’s unacceptable that we can have people on our territory who are teaching this to other people and the new generation.

Later, Agnès Maltais, the Parti Québécois spokesperson on secularism, and the PQ’s Carole Poirier denounced the imam’s statements and called on authorities to do everything in their power to impede him.

Maltais added:

The Imam Hamza Chaoui has made radical statements in the past, including stating the democracy and Islam are not compatible and that the vote is a sin. We strongly denounce these medieval statements.

They said the situation shows that Premier Philippe Couillard’s statement that fundamentalism is a “personal choice” as long as the laws are all respected is illogical.

17 responses to “Montreal opposes new Islamic centre”

  1. Trevor Blake says:

    Mayor Coderre says accurate and in-context citation of the Quran by an Imam that is in harmony with more than one thousand years if Islamic teaching and Islamic action “is not the message of the Qur’an.”

    Mayor Coderre is of the school of thought that considers Muslims brute beasts incapable of moral choices. They cannot help but be provoked to violence when contradicted and so much be placated. And the chosen means to placate the Muslims is to call them liars who don’t know their own religion and history. Mayor Coderre and those like him cannot accept Islam is as it does and believes what it says. Therefore they concede more and more and more in an effort to not offend the Muslims, an effort that has exactly two outcomes. Death or conversion to Islam.

    Well, I reject Islam. Islam is as it does and believes what it says. Muslims are responsible for their best and worst deeds. They are capable of cutting out their diseased members… but do not.

  2. L.Long says:

    So the mayor is a raging bigot!!!!
    What was said of isLame is 100%, BUT…
    It is also true of xtians or any religion
    They all put gawd ad religion #1 and everything else way down the scale.
    So when is he getting rid of all the churches?????

    Personally in this case with voting a sin I would prefer isLame over the back stabbing xtians as they tend to vote their BS into law, unlike the isLame that just take over the country and gov’mint.

  3. Robster says:

    Do these muzzy “spokespersons” go out of their way to look threateningly evil? This fellow would look right at home with a bomb in a Die Hard type production.

  4. barriejohn says:

    Just look at the shelves behind him groaning under the weight of all those “theological” tomes. As someone said on the previous thread, with reference to RE teaching, these idiots (Islamic, Christian, and the rest) all think that they are “scholars” – studying fairy stories!

    Meanwhile, mosques are going to have more “open days” to help us all to “understand” Islam better. All we have to do is tune in to the news every night!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31076194

  5. Alan says:

    ‘…he has denounced the World Cup of soccer, where stadiums were rife with the temptations of music, dancing and alcohol.’

    Ok yet another lot of don’ts’ to add to the ever growing list of sinful and offending things.

  6. Barry Duke says:

    Well, BarrieJohn, if you must go off-topic over my birthday, here’s one I like: http://tinyurl.com/5wpte3m

  7. Broga says:

    Happy birthday, Barry. We really ought to declare a national holiday but it is a Sunday anyway.

    This morning I awoke to hear some yowling which was not the cat but the sound of what they yowl in mosques. We can now go in there and listen to this. I’ll pass on that.

    As compensation I heard a report on BBC Radio 5 about Stephen Fry’s comments to Gay Byrne. Stephen got some people phoning in to support him. I also heard some apparently disturbed Christian saying the cruelty was all our fault but despite that god loved us. He didn’t say how he knew that.

    Back on topic, that guy in the picture is the perfect depiction of my conception of a fanatic.

  8. barriejohn says:

    Age is just a number – and a bloody big number in some cases!

  9. David Anderson says:

    ¡Feliz cumpleaños!

  10. Rob Andrews says:

    So now they want ‘a new Islamic center’. Presumablly a larger one! There were none in the US 30 or 40 years ago. Now there’s a center near the 911 site. Attacks on the west such as C. Hebdo. Sidney, Riots over cartoons, etc. This is all in the last 10 years since 911.

    Islam is clearly establishing a larger and larger presence in the lands of the infadels.. I recomend this website: http://www.inquiryintoislam.com/2010/06/do-you-know-much-about-islam.html

    ‘You’ve got to stand for something; or you’ll fall for anything’.

  11. AgentCormac says:

    Many happy returns, Barry!

    On the subject of Hamza Chaoui and his desire to set up a ‘community centre’, it’s good to see Montreal making a stand. On far too many occasions we have allowed radicals like him to import their 12th-century beliefs into societies which they hate and ultimately want to destroy. Having said which, it’s good to see that in Britain some muslims are at least attempting to be a bit more open and part of the wider community.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31076194

  12. jay says:

    “Mayor Réal Ménard … said that … That is not the message of the Qur’an.”

    I’m not certain how Menard is an expert on Qur’an

  13. dennis says:

    yes, happy birthday BARRY. the cat is correct. I know from experience. Now, how does a democratic human deal with fanaticism? my matrix just gets larger and more obtuse and I am lost in details and no answers. the linear answer I use from my United States MARINE Corp days was “kill them all and let their gawd sort it out” seems so destructive now.

  14. Rob Andrews says:

    @dennis:

    Right…I keep hearing from media spokespersons that “only a small percentage of Muslims are radical/extremist”. But I’m not happy with living in a country where–let’s say–5% are out to destroy me and my democratic government..

    And what exactly is the mumber anyway. And their numbers are growing every year.

  15. M AChohan says:

    Happy birthday, Barry. Many Happy Returns

  16. Normand Shearer says:

    Bonne fête de Montréal, Barry. Nous boirons un verre de vin ou deux à ta santé. Le meilleur de ce qu’apportera 2015.